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The1FastCar
2003-12-07, 08:37
I've confirmed that these drop-outs get Much worse with 5.0.1 (and any
nightly build after that)
... I'm lucky if I get 5 seconds of a song to play.
No CPU issues
No Network issue
No memory issue

I'm stumped....

My next step is to format a Clean XP machine, and try that.

No one actually answered my 1st question though....
Has anyone got this running reliably on XP, with 5.0.1?

Thanks!


-----Original Message-----
From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
[mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Jason
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 5:53 PM
To: 'SlimDevices Discussion'
Subject: [slim] Dropouts ( Does this thing work under XP?)


Also check your XP system for firewalls (XP has a built in one) anti virus
software, etc, all of these can play havoc with a streaming service like the
Slimserver.

Long live Microspoof!

-----Original Message-----
From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
[mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Sean Adams
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 3:35 PM
To: SlimDevices Discussion
Subject: [slim] Dropouts ( Does this thing work under XP?)


I don't think it's anything wrong on the squeezebox side. Either the
server software is misbehaving and not sending data to the network fast
enough, or something else is causing it to not get enough CPU time.
Please check CPU usage on the XP machine.

Also, are these MP3s or AIFF/WAV?


On Dec 6, 2003, at 2:19 PM, The1FastCar wrote:

> So am I the only one running XP and having a problem?
>
> Should I build a *nix system?
>
> Here's my story..
>
> WinXP, 'Virgin system'. Compaq 1.7Ghz, 1 Gig Ram, 3 Gig swap, 60Gig
> disk.
> Linksys router with only the WinXP machine and the Squeezebox on it
> Hard-wired to the Slim
> (Tried WiFi and had same experience)
>
> 5.0.0 Slim Server / Firmware
> approx 5 drops outs per song 1 second each. (rarely a song or 2
> will w/o error.)
>
> 5.0.1 Slim Server / Firmware
> I Might be able to get 2 seconds of a song to play.
>
> Tried all the nightly builds, but the latest Firmware seems to cause a
> problem...?
>
>
>
>

Jack Coates
2003-12-07, 09:16
On Sun, 2003-12-07 at 07:37, The1FastCar wrote:
> I've confirmed that these drop-outs get Much worse with 5.0.1 (and any
> nightly build after that)
> .. I'm lucky if I get 5 seconds of a song to play.
> No CPU issues
if this is the case,
> No Network issue
then this is a questionable statement. The 5.0.1 server should be less
sensitive to bad gear, but I still spent quite a while troubleshooting a
bad NetGear switch that seemed okay for normal traffic and fell apart
exactly as you describe when streaming music. Try a direct cross-over
cable between the server and the slimp3.
> No memory issue
>
> I'm stumped....
>
> My next step is to format a Clean XP machine, and try that.
>
> No one actually answered my 1st question though....
> Has anyone got this running reliably on XP, with 5.0.1?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
> [mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Jason
> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 5:53 PM
> To: 'SlimDevices Discussion'
> Subject: [slim] Dropouts ( Does this thing work under XP?)
>
>
> Also check your XP system for firewalls (XP has a built in one) anti virus
> software, etc, all of these can play havoc with a streaming service like the
> Slimserver.
>
> Long live Microspoof!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
> [mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Sean Adams
> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 3:35 PM
> To: SlimDevices Discussion
> Subject: [slim] Dropouts ( Does this thing work under XP?)
>
>
> I don't think it's anything wrong on the squeezebox side. Either the
> server software is misbehaving and not sending data to the network fast
> enough, or something else is causing it to not get enough CPU time.
> Please check CPU usage on the XP machine.
>
> Also, are these MP3s or AIFF/WAV?
>
>
> On Dec 6, 2003, at 2:19 PM, The1FastCar wrote:
>
> > So am I the only one running XP and having a problem?
> >
> > Should I build a *nix system?
> >
> > Here's my story..
> >
> > WinXP, 'Virgin system'. Compaq 1.7Ghz, 1 Gig Ram, 3 Gig swap, 60Gig
> > disk.
> > Linksys router with only the WinXP machine and the Squeezebox on it
> > Hard-wired to the Slim
> > (Tried WiFi and had same experience)
> >
> > 5.0.0 Slim Server / Firmware
> > approx 5 drops outs per song 1 second each. (rarely a song or 2
> > will w/o error.)
> >
> > 5.0.1 Slim Server / Firmware
> > I Might be able to get 2 seconds of a song to play.
> >
> > Tried all the nightly builds, but the latest Firmware seems to cause a
> > problem...?
> >
> >
> >
> >

W5UXH, Chuck
2003-12-07, 10:10
----- Original Message -----
From: "The1FastCar" <The1FastCar (AT) comcast (DOT) net>
> No one actually answered my 1st question though....
> Has anyone got this running reliably on XP, with 5.0.1?
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I have not noticed if there have been any others (besides you and me)
reporting problems with 5.0.1 under XP, so I will re-post my report of total
failure when I tried 5.0.1. (I was away for a week and did not carefully
read the large volume of posts that accumulated.)

I received no comments on my original post.

I am still running fine on 4.2.6.

Chuck Broadwell
Charlottesville, VA

Original post from 29 Nov follows:
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I downloaded 5.0.1 last night and installed it on my XP machine. This
replaced my 4.2.6 that had been working fine except for the hangup in the
refresh of the windows server when minimized.

With 5.0.1 I had problems with the server browser window going blank (no
contents) and the music stopping. I have not been following the recent
threads about the server stopping when logging out, but I was not logging
out. I was just starting the server and leaving the windows browser up and
it seemed to die within the first few minutes.

After two restarts, I uninstalled and went back to 4.2.6. I did not have
time to experiment any, and leave on a trip today, so I will not try
anything else.
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rpgoldman@real-time.com
2003-12-08, 08:17
I had some of these dropouts. Replaced 4.2.6 with 5.0.1 and the
problem seems to have gone away. But it's gone away temporarily
before, too.

I was wondering if it was a wireless networking issue (I've got a
slimp3 w/ wireless adapter). The last time it happened, I used
tcpdump to look at the server (which didn't seem terribly loaded), and
found what looked like an awful lot of udp traffic, even when my
player was off. Should the server be constantly talking to the
player?

R

seanadams
2003-12-08, 09:38
How much is an "awful lot"?


>
> I was wondering if it was a wireless networking issue (I've got a
> slimp3 w/ wireless adapter). The last time it happened, I used
> tcpdump to look at the server (which didn't seem terribly loaded), and
> found what looked like an awful lot of udp traffic, even when my
> player was off. Should the server be constantly talking to the
> player?

rpgoldman@real-time.com
2003-12-08, 14:08
>>>>> "Sean" == Sean Adams <sadams (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com> writes:

Sean> How much is an "awful lot"? [of UDP packets]

Between 15:02 and 15:04, 920 packets sent from the server to the
slimp3 player, which is in "stop" mode.

Server is running 5.0.1 on Linux. If you like, Sean, I can directly
email you the tcpdump output....

R

seanadams
2003-12-08, 16:26
That ain't right. Yes, please do send a tcpdump.

tcpdump -w filename




On Dec 8, 2003, at 1:08 PM, rpgoldman (AT) real-time (DOT) com wrote:

>>>>>> "Sean" == Sean Adams <sadams (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com> writes:
>
> Sean> How much is an "awful lot"? [of UDP packets]
>
> Between 15:02 and 15:04, 920 packets sent from the server to the
> slimp3 player, which is in "stop" mode.
>
> Server is running 5.0.1 on Linux. If you like, Sean, I can directly
> email you the tcpdump output....
>
> R
>