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Justme
2006-08-29, 09:08
Hello,

I've had the Squeezebox 2 for quite a while now, and upgrade the software on a regular basis. However, every few updates I return to the same problem which almost renders the device unusable.

The problem is a sluggish remote response. On the latest "full" slimsever, this was so bad that I had to move to the beta update. It seems as every 3rd or so slimserver update has this problem.

Even with the new beta update there is still a noticeable lag between when I press a button on the remote, and the action taken. On the previous slim sever, the delay could be up to 10 seconds making it impossible to browse.

My PC is modern and fast, a Dual Processor, 2gig Ram, SATA2 hard drives stripped for faster access. (winXP, fully patched)

There is no problem with the music, it never skips and seems to be buffered well.

Is there a setting in Slimserver that can improve this response?

jdvmi
2006-08-29, 11:45
Just a thought, but is slimserver scanning your library by any chance when you notice the slow behavior?

jonheal
2006-08-29, 12:08
Mine is a little slugginsh, too. Particularly with intial button presses.

mherger
2006-08-29, 13:04
> The problem is a sluggish remote response. On the latest "full"
> slimsever, this was so bad that I had to move to the beta update. It
> seems as every 3rd or so slimserver update has this problem.

Do you always see this behaviour or do you give up after the first few
minutes? Please keep in mind that slimserver will very probably be
scanning your collection right after the upgrade. During this scan
reaction can be sluggish. But in normal operation your configuration
should be more than powerful enough (I hope you have something else
running to work that second CPU core...). Can you give us some information
about your music collection and slimserver version?

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Justme
2006-08-30, 02:46
Thanks for all your responses!

Ok, I'm currently running:
SlimServer Version: 6.5b1 - 9173 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252
Perl Version: v5.8.7 MSWin32-x86-multi-thread
MySQL Version: 5.0.22-community-nt

This versions is far more responsive than the previous v6.3.1 which was so bad after the last update version that it was almost unusable.

The current version is still sluggish though, there is a noticable delay at all times, though I can still use it, but when extensive browsing (or searching) it becomes irritating.

Being sluggish at all times, it is not the rescanning of the library.

All my music is standard mp3's. I am running an ad-hoch wireless network with very good or excellent signal strength. There are sometimes some other networks present, but they are usually low strength.

I have noticed this problem comes and goes depending on the slimserver version I have installed. Sometimes when I upgrade it gets better, and other upgrades make it worse.

mherger
2006-08-30, 03:49
> SlimServer Version: 6.5b1 - 9173 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252
> Perl Version: v5.8.7 MSWin32-x86-multi-thread

Are you running the Windows binary or Activestate Perl? And what's your
collection's size?

Please try running the "Server & Network test" or something from the help
section in the web interface (be sure you've enabled the plugin in Server
Settings/Plugins).

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Justme
2006-08-30, 07:14
Are you running the Windows binary or Activestate Perl? And what's your
collection's size?


wooo... steady on there ;O) I'm not sure of what you mean by Windows binary or Activestate Peal. Sorry about that, could you please explain what I need to look at to answer this.

My collection is quite reasonable in size, some 8600 songs.



Please try running the "Server & Network test" or something from the help
section in the web interface (be sure you've enabled the plugin in Server
Settings/Plugins).


I'll check this out when I get back home.
Thanks.

mherger
2006-08-30, 08:12
> wooo... steady on there ;O) I'm not sure of what you mean by Windows
> binary or Activestate Peal.

Well... I wanted to add: "if you don't know, you're using the binary".

There's an executable available which is compiled for Windows. But you
could run the server using a perl interpreter (as is done on Linux and
similar systems). But on Windows you'd have install ActiveState Perl
yourself to do so. If you don't know what this is, you surely didn't :-9.

> My collection is quite reasonable in size, some 8600 songs.

This really sounds reasonable. Shouldn't be a problem for slimserver.

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deserttaxguy
2006-08-30, 08:56
I was using my Palm TX just fine for months, and now it wont connect to Slim Server on port 9000. I have the exceptions in my firewall as specified by the user guide to open ports, and I have even shut off my Firewall to test and still get no response.
Is anybody else having a problem or do you have a suggestion please? Everything else seems fine. Just cant use the Palm Remote.

Justme
2006-08-30, 15:41
> wooo... steady on there ;O) I'm not sure of what you mean by Windows
> binary or Activestate Peal.

Well... I wanted to add: "if you don't know, you're using the binary".

There's an executable available which is compiled for Windows. But you
could run the server using a perl interpreter (as is done on Linux and
similar systems). But on Windows you'd have install ActiveState Perl
yourself to do so. If you don't know what this is, you surely didn't :-9.

> My collection is quite reasonable in size, some 8600 songs.

This really sounds reasonable. Shouldn't be a problem for slimserver.

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Ok, I have tried the Network Test, and the results are excellent for up to 3000kbps (i.e. 100%) When I try 4000kpbs, it starts to drop below 100%, however, I believe from what it says there, that's pretty good.

mherger
2006-08-31, 00:58
> Ok, I have tried the Network Test, and the results are excellent for up
> to 3000kbps (i.e. 100%) When I try 4000kpbs, it starts to drop below
> 100%, however, I believe from what it says there, that's pretty good.

could you please "Enable Performance Monitoring", start playing a few
songs and open the "Server Statistics" after a few minutes? (you'll find
those links on the health page)

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Triode
2006-08-31, 01:45
As you are running 6.5 you can enable some additional debugging which shows when the server is running slowly:

Enable Performance Monitoring
Go to Server Statistics
At the bottom of that page, put 0.5 in the High warning threshold box at the bottom of the page and press Set All

This will add an entry to the log if any of the measurements displayed on this page take longer than 0.5 seconds. To see the entries, scroll to the top of the page and click on the 'here' link. Leave the server running for a while and then paste here what you see.