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CouchPotatoe
2006-08-25, 07:39
I spent quite a while ensuring that all my albums had cover art by
having a folder.jpg present in the directory (there are a few other
standard names slimserver supports). I would now prefer to embed these
images directly in my mp3 tags rather than have them as separate files
(as I have other players which do not see these separate files). Is
there an application anyone knows of that will scan a whole drive with
multiple hierarchies and automatically copy these images to the tags,
assuming a tag doesn't already exist ? TIA Kevin

autopilot
2006-08-25, 09:43
Can't help you but i would love to know how too. If you find out elsewhere, please let me know. I know of some apps that can do it, but not automatically and it would take me weeks.

autopilot
2006-08-26, 12:04
You can do it with Mp3Tag, Just did it myself.

Simply load up the folder that contains all the subfolders containing your music. CTRL+A to highlight every track, press the 'Action (quick)' button, select 'Import Cover From File' and enter "folder.jpg" as the string. It will then add the correct artwork to evey MP3 you have.

Unfortunatly, Vobis tags (Ogg and FLAC) dont support this. Only MP3 and WMA.

Robin Bowes
2006-08-26, 16:28
dangerous_dom wrote:
>
> Unfortunatly, Vobis tags (Ogg and FLAC) dont support this. Only MP3 and
> WMA.

I don't believe that.

R.

Michaelwagner
2006-08-26, 17:50
I'll have to try it to be sure, but I think Tag & Replace will do this.

funkstar
2006-08-27, 03:32
I think some software will let you embed cover art in a Vorbis comment (Ogg or FLAC) but i don't thinkit is prt of the official spec. Tag&Rename doesn't let you do it.

autopilot
2006-08-27, 03:57
dangerous_dom wrote:
>
> Unfortunatly, Vobis tags (Ogg and FLAC) dont support this. Only MP3 and
> WMA.

I don't believe that.

R.

Ok, I'm only going off the info i got from this thread on the Hydrogen Audio forums - http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=47730. Of course they maybe wrong, but are you saying that you just don't think/believe it, or that you know it to be wrong?

If it can be done, and it's worth doing (i.e. supported by Slimserver and other apps) i would like to know how.

autopilot
2006-08-27, 09:26
Well it seems the embeding the artwork confused Slimserver a bit. I had to clear my browser cache and manually delete slimservers cache to get it working again.

MrSinatra
2006-08-27, 15:34
this question is a lot like mine:

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=26612

which got no love, guess i'm unpopular. ;)

anyway, are you guys saying mp3tag is smart enough to know to take Folder.jpg from the dir the files are in, and only embed it only in those files it shares the dir with?

i thought mp3tag got its art from the net only, i didn't know you could tell it to do this, (use local art and match it to the files in the same dir).

has anyone done it successfully yet? i would love to be able to do this for friends who need it embedded. thx.

chuckiebear
2006-08-28, 02:19
[QUOTE=If it can be done, and it's worth doing (i.e. supported by Slimserver and other apps) i would like to know how.[/QUOTE]

I've been embedding cover art in flacs without problem using Tag & Rename. Haven't tried with oggs but I'll go and try now.

autopilot
2006-08-28, 02:40
Does slimserver support art embeded in FLAC's?

chuckiebear
2006-08-28, 03:34
Sure, I'm looking at it now :)

autopilot
2006-08-28, 03:41
I have just download tag&rename 3.2 and it wont let me add artwork to FLAC's or OGG's.

When i hit F5 to edit the tags, the artwork options are greyed out.

autopilot
2006-08-28, 04:11
chuckiebear, i think you are mistaken mate :)

I think you are confusing Folder Art with File Art.

tag&rename will download, add and display Folder art for all file types, but it cant actually embed artwork into the actual files for OGG or FLAC.

chuckiebear
2006-08-28, 04:35
Could well be, I thought I was looking at a flac. However, rather than F5 try crtl-F4 & edit all supported tags. The option to add art is not greyed out for flacs. I'll try a little embedding...

...you are right, nothing is embedded although it seems to go through the motions.

Obviously my brain is not engaged this morning in London. I'm off to carnival now.

autopilot
2006-08-28, 04:44
...it seems to go through the motions.

Yeah, mp3tag does to. A bit of a flaw in the software IMO. If they cant write certain data to some tags, you should atleast get an error message or something.

I think i will give up for now, much of my collection is OGG/FLAC and these are the formats i plan to continue using in future. Hopefully future tag versions for Ogg/FLAC will include this.

Cheers mate, Have a good one.

funkstar
2006-08-28, 08:28
Same here. I don't plan changing from FLAC any time soon.

I'm surprised that Vorbis comments never had an embeded artwork spec from the start, they seem to have done everything else pretty well (like allowing multiple entries for comments etc.).

Mark Lanctot
2006-08-28, 08:40
I'm surprised that Vorbis comments never had an embeded artwork spec from the start, they seem to have done everything else pretty well (like allowing multiple entries for comments etc.).

There could be a definite reason for this. As FLAC is a relative newcomer, the developer had the benefit of looking at other formats and picking the best features from them while discarding the worst.

Josh Coalson (the FLAC developer) stops by this forum from time to time, maybe he can explain whether it was just an oversight or if it was omitted deliberately.

Michaelwagner
2006-08-28, 08:49
One wonders about the wisdom of actually embedding artwork, though.

For most (non-streaming) uses, embedding artwork in the track doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Artwork is relatively large (compared to other tags).It's usually the same for all the tracks from a single "album", so replicating it a dozen times is a waste of space.

A single file for artwork shared amongst all the tracks in an album is a "smarter" architecture.

Even if one wanted an explicit artwork tag, it could be a relative file name for the artwork file in the same directory.

autopilot
2006-08-28, 09:12
One wonders about the wisdom of actually embedding artwork, though.

For most (non-streaming) uses, embedding artwork in the track doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Artwork is relatively large (compared to other tags).It's usually the same for all the tracks from a single "album", so replicating it a dozen times is a waste of space.

A single file for artwork shared amongst all the tracks in an album is a "smarter" architecture.

Even if one wanted an explicit artwork tag, it could be a relative file name for the artwork file in the same directory.

Depends on if artwork is important to you or not. To me it is - not the most important thing of course, i do really like having it. It makes using things like slimserver more of a pleasure too. It's just neater too.

I don't think adding 20k to an already 30Mb file is a big deal either.

Where i would really like it is when i rip to an Image and CUE sheet. The whole lot in one neat package.

Michaelwagner
2006-08-28, 09:40
Oh, you use 1 file per album and cue sheets?

Then my comments don't apply.

I'm still back in MP3 land ... lol

Mark Lanctot
2006-08-28, 10:06
Depends on if artwork is important to you or not. To me it is - not the most important thing of course, i do really like having it. It makes using things like slimserver more of a pleasure too. It's just neater too.

Not sure from your statement if you're aware of this, but you can also put a folder.jpg in each album folder to have SlimServer pick it up.

I believe you can also make an album artwork folder with <artist - album>.jpg files in it.

The image does not have to be embedded in the tag in order for it to be used.

autopilot
2006-08-28, 11:02
Not sure from your statement if you're aware of this, but you can also put a folder.jpg in each album folder to have SlimServer pick it up.

I believe you can also make an album artwork folder with <artist - album>.jpg files in it.

The image does not have to be embedded in the tag in order for it to be used.

Yeah, i have an image called 'folder.jpg' for each album/folder

JustInterjecting
2008-04-12, 09:41
this question is a lot like mine:

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=26612

which got no love, guess i'm unpopular. ;)

anyway, are you guys saying mp3tag is smart enough to know to take Folder.jpg from the dir the files are in, and only embed it only in those files it shares the dir with?

i thought mp3tag got its art from the net only, i didn't know you could tell it to do this, (use local art and match it to the files in the same dir).

has anyone done it successfully yet? i would love to be able to do this for friends who need it embedded. thx.


Yes, I have successfully used Mp3tag v2.40 to update every mp3 in my collection. Press shift+alt+5 and select "Import cover from file" in the dropdown box, then it will ask you for the image name, type Folder.jpg and click ok. It will use the relative Folder.jpg and update every mp3 with the folder.jpg in that directory, embedding the image into the file. If you have cover art in files that you do not have saved as Folder.jpg you can choose to not overwrite existing. Later you can also export those images to file using the same method. Just use windows media player to make sure the album art is correct and if it is, then it is saved as Folder.jpg and it will work.