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thoeng
2006-08-10, 05:15
okay so be it. i thought this thread might be useful for those who is trying to build small & silent server like me. Folks, write down your slimbox detail specification or even picture is better. you could practically write down anything including placement, cases, how do you overcome noises, heat and energy efficiency.



Cheers,

jimdibb
2006-08-10, 06:04
I run a 1.6 GHz or so toshiba satellite laptop running linux. The screen is
always closed. It's in my basement so noise is not an issue. I run an
external 80GB drive in a maddog usb 2.0 case. They share an apc 350 ups.

It doesn't have to be silent if you put it in the right place. With
ethernet and remote desktop apps there's no real reason to have it in your
listening room, unless you're going to use the video output too.

On 8/10/06, thoeng <thoeng.2cbpzb1155212401 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com>
wrote:
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>
> okay so be it. i thought this thread might be useful for those who is
> trying to build small & silent server like me. Folks, write down your
> slimbox detail specification or even picture is better. you could
> practically write down anything including placement, cases, how do you
> overcome noises, heat and energy efficiency.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
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> thoeng
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audiofi
2006-08-10, 07:21
Epia M1000
512Mb RAM
1 x 80Gb system disk
2 x 200Gb storage disks
Win XP Pro SP2
ATI Radeon 9250 PCI
Silverstone LC11 case

http://audiofi.dudehost.com/insurance/pc.jpg

Also doubles up as a PVR so also has:
USB-UIRT
Hauppauge WinTV PVR USB2
ATI Remote

JJZolx
2006-08-10, 10:02
okay so be it. i thought this thread might be useful for those who is trying to build small & silent server like me. Folks, write down your slimbox detail specification or even picture is better. you could practically write down anything including placement, cases, how do you overcome noises, heat and energy efficiency.
SlimServer is my old P4 desktop with some added RAM. It's fast enough to run SlimServer, but I suspect I'll have the urge to upgrade to a dual core system sometime in the near future. At that time I'll probably install a large RAID array in the server itself rather than using the NAS for storage. The NAS will then likely be used only for backup purposes.

- P4 3.0GHz
- 2 GB PC3200 ECC RAM
- 200 GB HDD
- Antec SX-840 case
- XP Pro operating system

It sits in the basement where size, heat and noise aren't issues. I've removed a couple of hard drives since the days when it was used as my desktop, so the case is larger than it needs to be.

File storage:

- Infrant ReadyNAS 600
- 878 GB of storage (4 x 320GB drives in RAID5)

It also lives in the basement. The NAS is used for storage of not only music, but also video and daily backups of the server and my desktop system.

Chippy
2006-08-10, 12:37
Mac Mini Core Duo 1.66GHz
1Gb RAM
120GB HDD

- Virtually silent (essential as it's situated in the guest bedroom)
- Tiny - 6 inches square by 2 inches high.
- Very low power requirements - I leave it on 24x7

The other attraction for me was that I wanted to explore Macs - obviously this will not be an attraction for everyone. It's much better for making movies and DVDs than my PC though.

Slimserver was a breeze to setup and the FrontRow software and Apple remote is great for guests to listen to the music library via the Mac rather than Squeezebox. FrontRow also lets them watch DVDs, etc.

Downside: not for very large music collections; not the cheapest option out there. Oh yeah - internal expansion options virtually non existent.

shabbs
2006-08-10, 12:58
My primary desktop is running my SlimServer.

CPU: Intel PD Dual Core - 940 3.2GE 4M
Motherboard: ASUS P5LD2 Intel 945P DDR2 SATA
Memory: DDR2 533 2048M PC4200 (2x1024M)
Hard Drive: Maxtor 300G SATA 16M 7200rpm
Optical Drive: LG H10A 16X DVD +/- RW DUAL BK
Case & Power: Midtowe Black Side Window Case & 24Pin 550W TP

Noise and heat is not an issue at this time as my office and all network gear is in the basement staying cool. Wired SB1 is in main living on first floor. All music is stored on my Linksys NSLU2.

Cheers.

mherger
2006-08-10, 12:59
> SlimServer is my old P4 desktop with some added RAM.

I hope it has some more tasks to do than just run SlimServer! :-)

> - P4 3.0GHz
> - 2 GB PC3200 ECC RAM
> - 200 GB HDD

Mine is a Via C3/1GHz, 512MB, SME Linux 6.0 (running the usual suspects in a typical LAMP system, too), 120GB, backed up to external 120GB disk.

thoeng asked for pictures. So here we go, my most impressive setup: not only does it sport a 15 year old 14" VGA monitor, but two cassettes, too - without a cassette player in the house :-)

Munge
2006-08-10, 13:06
My server details:
Thinkpad 240, 300 MHz, W2K, 192 MB RAM
450 albums on a LaCie Ethernet Disk Mini 250 GB
Works great! The disk generates more heat than the Thinkpad.

/Munge

Jacob Potter
2006-08-10, 13:16
My SlimServer is also my main desktop:

- Athlon 64 X2 4600+
- Scythe SCNJ-1000 heatsink
- Yate Loon D12SL-12 fan in top of case; speed-controlled via motherboard
- GeForce 7800GT
- Zalman ZM80D-HP / ZM80D-IK1 heatsink
- Yate Loon D12SL-12 fan, blowing across heatsink; wired to 5 volts
- Samsung Spinpoint 200gb hard drive
- Soft-mounted with rubber grommets
- Antec Phantom 500W fanless power supply
- Vantec Stealth 80mm fan, wired to 5 volts, cooling hard drive and PSU
- Abit AN8-SLI motherboard (fanless heatpipe cooling)
- 2GB DDR400 RAM
- NEC ND-3540A DVD burner
- Debian Sid

It's incredibly quiet; the fans are all under 800 RPM when the CPU is
idling (with Cool'n'Quiet). I haven't measured the power consumption
since I replaced the processor (used to be a single-core 3500+),
though.

Advantages: extremely quiet, extremely fast
Disadvantages: expensive, absurdly heavy, nowhere near portable

At some point I'd like to get rid of the hard drive and move it to a
file server in the basement; either I'll do diskless boot (with a
dedicated GigE link), or get some sort of hardware ramdisk.

- Jacob

dSw
2006-08-10, 14:11
VIA EPIA SP13000
Hiper Media Case
Panasonic Slotload DVD CW8124
Maxtor 120GB
512MB Crucial RAM

I replaced the stock CPU fan with a SilentX one and replaced the case PSU fan with an Akaska silent fan.

OS is Debian, for now. I intend on replacing it with EpiOS when it is a bit more mature.

All my music is on NAS devices, connected over a WLAN (the SB2 is used as the wireless bridge).

NWP
2006-08-10, 17:51
I have an Athlon 64 2000+ with 512 megs of ram.
I put it in an Antec Minuet: http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=15102
and replaced the stock heatsink/fan with a silent one.

notanatheist
2006-08-10, 22:19
2.6Ghz 800FSB P4
1GB PC3200
4x 200GB (600GB RAID5 on 3Ware RAID controller)
40 or so GB boot drive with ClarkConnect something. (Changed to Gentoo)
CDRW
500W crappy Ultra power supply.
stuck in the garage headless with static IP.
Big ol' In-Win full tower (cases built like a tank)
Good stuff.

Andreas
2006-08-11, 01:12
Via Epia 5000 (fanless 500MHz)
Seagate 250GB
DC-DC power supply /w external AC-DC brick
stuffed into a custom made plexi chassi hidden behind my sofa,
running Trustix Secure Linux and doubles as smtp/imap/http/mysql/slimserver-box.

might be a tad slow during scanning, but it's SILENT!

rgds
/andreas

thoeng wrote:
> okay so be it. i thought this thread might be useful for those who is
> trying to build small & silent server like me. Folks, write down your
> slimbox detail specification or even picture is better. you could
> practically write down anything including placement, cases, how do you
> overcome noises, heat and energy efficiency.
> Cheers,

thoeng
2006-08-11, 01:32
woww thank for the response folks what a great forum. anyway as for me priority goes like this noise, cost effective, , electric efficiency, processing power, and then heat since i have no other else to put the system (i am cheap guy and living single studio), i also rescan less, my music collection is less than 7500 songs, i want something small and good looking and of course very low noise.

my ideal system is like this
http://cgi.ebay.com/Mini-Media-Center-PC-XP-Pro-DVDRW-Wireless-LAN_W0QQitemZ270016717599QQihZ017QQcategoryZ80193Q QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/Mini-PC-kits-for-VIA-MINI-ITX-Car-PC-Build-yours-now_W0QQitemZ140015622643QQihZ004QQcategoryZ51064Q QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

ideally with wi-fi cards so i could put them inside my clothes rack nicely and forgot them :) what do you guys think ??

nmizel
2006-08-11, 05:27
Here are the details of my system

Fedora FC3
VIA EPIA 5000 Fanless
512 MB Ram
Morex Cubid 3688 Mini-ITX Case
2 x 250 GB disks
Argosy HD-360U2 Fanless

Cheers,
Nicolas

thoeng
2006-08-11, 06:08
well if anybody teach me how to post my current slim setting picture here. i would love to post them.

Mark Lanctot
2006-08-11, 06:19
ideally with wi-fi cards so i could put them inside my clothes rack nicely and forgot them :)

Not a good idea to have a wireless server.

Besides, if it's silent, wire it up right next to your router.

thoeng
2006-08-11, 06:54
mind tellin me why not ?? i am using my current laptop now (acer 803LCi) as server wirelessly and it serves well. i was thinking because i don't want those ugly cables to run over my beautiful and neat room :D

Mark Lanctot
2006-08-11, 07:16
mind tellin me why not ?? i am using my current laptop now (acer 803LCi) as server wirelessly and it serves well. i was thinking because i don't want those ugly cables to run over my beautiful and neat room :D

Some people do it.

However if you run into wireless problems it will compound them. In short, you're asking for trouble.

Each wireless packet will now have to go over two hops: SS -> wireless router -> SB. You increase latency and decrease speed and throughput each time. As I said, in certain situations this may work without any adverse effects - every time I post this I always get a few people saying "works for me". Be that as it may, if yourself or a neighbour buys a 2.4 GHz phone or sets up a new wireless network on the same channel as you it may not "work for you" anymore.

You already have a cable going to your modem-router, be it phone line or CATV cable, what's one more going from the router to your SS box? You don't have to run it all over your room, just place the SS box beside the router and run a short wire in the back.

Besides, why hide some of those really nice looking Mini-ITX cases? :-) Particularly if it's silent.

thoeng
2006-08-11, 08:24
actually the reason i want to do it wireless is because i was thinking if i am able to get those nice sweetlooking mini ATX box then why to put them on clothes rack i will put it just beside my SB. and to do this i will have to do it wirelessly because the router it self is on the other side of wall and if i am to do wire then i will have to hide my slimbox (because it won't look good and fit good) as i already hide my router (netgear WGT 624T) behind drawer.

Well somebody teach me how to put pictures i would love to post me pictures here !!

Andy D
2006-08-11, 08:33
Currently using main desktop pc

- P4 2.26GHz Celeron
- 512MB RAM
- 160GB Samsung SATA SpinPoint Drive

To be replaced by an ITX board in a dedicated box when I can afford it

Kevin O. Lepard
2006-08-11, 09:18
700Mhz G3 Snow iMac
OS X 10.3.9
1G RAM
--
Kevin O. Lepard

Happiness is being 100% Microsoft free.

sgard9
2006-08-11, 13:15
1 Ghz iMac G5 17" (the Kitchen Computer)
OS X 10.4.7
512M RAM (needs more)

Scott Gardner

shabbs
2006-08-11, 13:40
(the Kitchen Computer)
HA! I love it. Pretty soon we're going to have computers everywhere. Bathroom computer, closet computer, attic computer, stairwell computer, laundry computer, patio computer, garage computer...

Heh heh.

audiofi
2006-08-11, 14:10
HA! I love it. Pretty soon we're going to have computers everywhere. Bathroom computer, closet computer, attic computer, stairwell computer, laundry computer, patio computer, garage computer...

Heh heh.
I've got one of these serving the bathroom if you count it as a computer:
http://www.hometoys.com/htinews/feb01/reviews/arequest/arequest.htm

shabbs
2006-08-11, 14:26
I've got one of these serving the bathroom if you count it as a computer:
http://www.hometoys.com/htinews/feb01/reviews/arequest/arequest.htm
Very cool. But at that price, wouldn't an SB3 and some speakers do the trick for less $$$. Now if it was touchscreen....

audiofi
2006-08-11, 14:28
I didn't pay that much for it, it was 100 ($200 roughly)

Any more than that and I would have bought another squeezebox

shabbs
2006-08-11, 14:31
I didn't pay that much for it, it was 100 ($200 roughly)

Any more than that and I would have bought another squeezebox
For sure! Nice.

sgard9
2006-08-11, 15:13
You're giving me some great ideas. But so far, Just kitchen, home
office, big garage (not to be confused with the small garage),
basement (takes care of the home automation stuff) and a laptop. In
the master plan the media room is next.

-- Scott --


On Aug 11, 2006, at 1:40 PM, shabbs wrote:

>
> sgard9 Wrote:
>> (the Kitchen Computer)
> HA! I love it. Pretty soon we're going to have computers everywhere.
> Bathroom computer, closet computer, attic computer, stairwell
> computer,
> laundry computer, patio computer, garage computer...
>
> Heh heh.
>
>
> --
> shabbs
>

peter
2006-08-12, 12:25
On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 09:04:40 -0400, "Jim Dibb" <jimdibb (AT) gmail (DOT) com> said:

> I run a 1.6 GHz or so toshiba satellite laptop running linux. The screen
> is
> always closed. It's in my basement so noise is not an issue. I run an
> external 80GB drive in a maddog usb 2.0 case. They share an apc 350 ups.
>
> It doesn't have to be silent if you put it in the right place. With
> ethernet and remote desktop apps there's no real reason to have it in
> your
> listening room, unless you're going to use the video output too.

That's my philosophy. It can be as noisy as necessary as long as it's
far away. Video is no problem either. I use a pair of A/V over CAT5
baluns to transfer the video and audio signals to my cable cabinet where
an injector merges the signal with the rest of my TV cable channels. I
have total silence in my listening/watching places.

X.

ph75
2006-08-15, 14:43
Soltek Qbic IQ3601A (VIA C3 Nehemiah 1Ghz) http://www.soltek-computer.de/soltek/product/qbic.php?isbn_st=SL-B6A-F1000&qisbn_st=IQ3601
256Mb RAM
2x250Gb HDD in software mirroring
Internal Asus DVD drive
USB external LG 2166D DVD Writer
Mandrake Linux 10.1