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EnochLight
2006-08-08, 13:18
Wonder how this will serve as a Squeezebox controller... looks kinda' interesting and I like the integrated keyboard.

What do you guys think?

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=33538

kdf
2006-08-08, 13:23
With that screen resolution, I doubt the Nokia has that much to worry about.
Not to mention that Sony still insists on sticking with that stupid
proprietary memory stick.
-k

Jacob Potter
2006-08-08, 13:27
On 8/8/06, EnochLight
<EnochLight.2c8mvb1155068401 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com> wrote:
> What do you guys think?

Looks nice, but the 320x240 (non-touch) screen ruins it for me.

I think the best 770-alternative will be the DS with Opera, once they
release it outside of Japan. The resolution isn't much better (256x384
across both screens), but it does have a touch screen, and it's a lot
cheaper than anything else. I can't really see myself using a QWERTY
keyboard on the remote, but it'd be nice for searching.

- Jacob

bklaas
2006-08-08, 13:40
Interesting, but I'm very much of the same opinion as Jacob and KDF--

1. Sony saddles everything with their proprietary nonsense
2. 320x240 non-touchscreen isn't going to compete with the 800x480 touchscreen on the 770.

I'd be curious to see it in action, and to see how certain usability issues with the 770 (wifi needs to reconnect after idle time, battery life, etc.) fare with this thing. But the Mylo isn't coming close to my "gotta have it" radar.

FWIW, an integrated QWERTY keyboard is borderline useless for slimserver functions, IMO. I use a bluetooth keyboard on the 770, but it only comes in handy for typing emails. Slimserver browsing is very much a click-touch-browse kind of thing.

#!/ben

Smiley Dan
2006-08-09, 04:37
Looks like a swiss army knife to me which is precisely what the 770 isn't (although, paradoxically, it had more potential to be one given the openness of its OS).

The resolution is simply not good enough for Web browsing, so using it as a controller via the Web may be a challenge to the skin writer.

mherger
2006-08-09, 05:00
> The resolution is simply not good enough for Web browsing, so using it
> as a controller via the Web may be a challenge to the skin writer.

The Handheld skin is already optimised for this resolution (though in
portrait mode - 240x320)

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bklaas
2006-08-09, 08:00
Looks like a swiss army knife to me which is precisely what the 770 isn't (although, paradoxically, it had more potential to be one given the openness of its OS).


This is a very curious statement, as I think the swiss army knife analogy fits the 770 incredibly well. And I mean that in both positive and negative ways.

The swiss army has a lot of tools...knife, screwdriver, saw, toothpick, etc. It does all of these tasks passably well, but none of these tasks superbly well. That, to me, is the 770.

One day I hope the 770 or a new model can be a leatherman instead of a swiss army knife, but that day isn't here yet. 2006OS did sharpen the blade a bit.

#!/ben

Smiley Dan
2006-08-10, 04:25
It is not curious. The 770 is not a swiss army knife because it has been created for very constrained use cases - it's an Internet tablet. That is how it is designed, and that is what it is for.

You should notice my mention of paradox; it is true that the 770 has a lot of extendability potential due to its platform, but that doesn't change the ethos udner which the product was designed. Thus the problems some people have trying to turn it into things it isn't, e.g. a PDA. The early inexistence of alarm functionality in the 2005 OS is an example.

bklaas
2006-08-10, 06:30
So...the 770 is a web browser, email client, rss feed reader, vnc client, vnc server ssh client, ssh server, pdf reader, eBook reader, video player, audio player, voip phone, personal information manager, you can play chess, mahjong, even doom, it's got a bash shell, unix utilities, musical instrument tuner, it can connect with a bluetooth gps device and provide mapping utilities. It's also a slimserver remote ;)
There's more:
http://maemo.org/maemowiki/ApplicationCatalog2006

I'm not claiming that the 770 is the best device on the planet. It's got tons of flaws. I'm just saying that it fits the analogy of a swiss army knife to a T. It's not that you can't use the 770 as a PDA...it just doesn't do that particular function as well as a dedicated PDA (yet). Kind of like trying to use a swiss army knife to cut through a tree branch with the saw tool.

cheers,
#!/ben

Smiley Dan
2006-08-10, 08:52
As I said, just because someone has ported an application to a platform doesn't mean the platform was designed for that in the first place. Sure, it can do those things, but it wasn't designed for many of them.

By your definition, any of the current windows mobile devices are swiss army knives. Yet they are useless for many of the things people attempt with them, like Web browsing and so on.

BTW... I love my 770, my identification of it as being specialised is a POSITIVE thing to me!