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Sebastian
2006-07-30, 16:35
Still debating to buy Squeeze


I bought a special Yamaha Ipod/Nano dock which connected to my stereo. I ended up returning ot to the store. But supposedly, according to the manual, if I had had a tv hooked up to the stereo which is one of those multi-everything ones (Yamaha), the Ipods screen content could be displayed on the Tv and manipulated the Nano/Pods menus on the Tv with the stereos remote. (but I dont have an extra Tv for the living room)

Indeed the stereos remote could control the I pod/Nano and it even displayed song and artist on the stereo sLCDcreen! This all worked fine and would have suited me but I returned the dock because the Nano doesnt have a big memory and I didnt want to be running up to the computer changing playlists on the nano. Then I thought about just getting an Ipod with more memory which would have cost me $300 plus keeping the dock for $100

At some poitn I will buy a TV and Im wondering if this display Itunes on your TV capability will make my squeezebox redundant for display purposes

ddewey
2006-07-30, 18:28
Quoting Sebastian (Sebastian.2bs84n1154302801 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com):

>
> Still debating to buy Squeeze
>
>
> I bought a special Yamaha Ipod/Nano dock which connected to my stereo.
> I ended up returning ot to the store. But supposedly, according to the
> manual, if I had had a tv hooked up to the stereo which is one of those
> multi-everything ones (Yamaha), the Ipods screen content could be
> displayed on the Tv and manipulated the Nano/Pods menus on the Tv with
> the stereos remote. (but I dont have an extra Tv for the living room)
>
> Indeed the stereos remote could control the I pod/Nano and it even
> displayed song and artist on the stereo sLCDcreen! This all worked fine
> and would have suited me but I returned the dock because the Nano doesnt
> have a big memory and I didnt want to be running up to the computer
> changing playlists on the nano. Then I thought about just getting an
> Ipod with more memory which would have cost me $300 plus keeping the
> dock for $100
>
> At some poitn I will buy a TV and Im wondering if this display Itunes
> on your TV capability will make my squeezebox redundant for display
> purposes

I had a similar-type device (Linksys WMA11B, iirc) that used the TV is a
display to select music. It worked ok for some things, but I didn't really
see the need nor want to have the TV on all the time just to listen to
music. In my application, this device was in the gym, and I espescially
didn't like the constant glow of the TV screen on while I was running on the
treadmill in an otherwise-dark room. The Squeezebox display works great,
there's really no point to having a TV on it's just redundant. Why turn on
one MORE power-hungry display device just to listen to music?

Besides, Squeezeboxes are media crack. Once you buy one, you'll buy more,
and you certainly don't want to buy TV sets in every room you want to listen
to music. I'd like to get rid of the TVs I have.

autopilot
2006-07-31, 06:02
Why would you want to use a TV, seems like a horrible idea to me persoanlly. This is one of the reasons i like the SB3 so much. I dont know what all the fuss is about over the Sono's either, i much prefer to have the screen on the main unit. I would hate to have to fart about picking up the remote everytime my friends ask whats playing (one person once asked me why i had such a gay clock, i left him in blissful ignorance :D).

I would hate to have to turn on my TV just to be able to see what i was selecting/playing. Apart from the audiable 'whine' TV's make, i cant drag my 28" Sony outside into the garden with my SB3/Mini system when i am having a BBQ/Party.

One thing some people like the idea of is having some visualisations on the screen. But the SB3 does not have the power for anything decent and i would not like to see SD divert the effort away from the ultimate audio playback device. You can use your PC for this well already anyway - just divert the audio through your PC (you could use softsqueeze) to active sound responsive visualisation software like AVS then use a TV cable.

thinking about it, i wonder if someone could build an app that queries slimserver for album/track/artwork/now playing info which could be outputted to a TV?

jtfields
2006-07-31, 08:02
My computer that runs SlimServer has an S-Video output and I have it connected to my TV. I still use my Squeezebox to select music. Instead I have SlimServer display album art and tag information on my TV including the album review from AllMusic (which I store in the comment field.) The TV really serves more as "eye candy" than anything else and I probably only have the TV on maybe 25% of the time when I'm listening to the Squeezebox which is why I wouldn't want a device that requires a TV. It draws a lot of attention though when people come over to the house.

I had to do a lot of modifications to the skin though to get a readable display. My TV is not an HDTV (it's a 32 inch Sony) so it has a very low resolution. You have to use fairly large fonts and very basic color combinations for it not to be hard on the eyes. But once you've got it figured out it doesn't look half bad.

I bet with a HDTV with a computer input you could really do some nice looking things. I'm waiting for my Sony to finally die (it's on its last leg) so that I can get a plasma.

Robert Zimmerman
2006-07-31, 18:00
What if you have all the equipment hidden in cabinets and need to see
the display on the Squeezebox. What's the alternative to getting up
and opening the cabinet. Is there any kind of "remote display" for
those of us with everything built in?

Rob




>Why would you want to use a TV, seems like a horrible idea to me
>persoanlly. This is one of the reasons i like the SB3 so much. I dont
>know what all the fuss is about over the Sono's either, i much prefer
>to have the screen on the main unit.
>
>I would hate to have to turn on my TV just to be able to see what i was
>selecting/playing. Apart from the audiable 'whine' TV's make, i cant
>drag my 28" Sony outside into the garden with my SB3/Mini system when i
>am having a BBQ/Party.
>
>One thing some people like the idea of is having some visualisations on
>the screen. But the SB3 does not have the power for anything decent and
>i would not like to see SD divert the effort away from the ultimate
>audio playback device. You can use your PC for this well already anyway
>- just divert the audio through your PC (you could use softsqueeze) to
>active sound responsive visualisation software like AVS then use a TV
>cable.
>
>thinking about it, i wonder if someone could build an app that queries
>slimserver for album/track/artwork/now playing info which could be
>outputted to a TV?
>
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azinck3
2006-07-31, 20:17
What if you have all the equipment hidden in cabinets and need to see
the display on the Squeezebox. What's the alternative to getting up
and opening the cabinet. Is there any kind of "remote display" for
those of us with everything built in?

Rob


You can use any device with a web browser.

- desktop/notebook/tablet computer
- PDA
- a Nokia 770
- PSP
- Internet appliance

Jeff Coffler
2006-08-01, 08:47
Robert Zimmerman wrote:
> What if you have all the equipment hidden in cabinets and need to see
> the display on the Squeezebox. What's the alternative to getting up
> and opening the cabinet. Is there any kind of "remote display" for
> those of us with everything built in?
If you have an automation system, the CLI allows for pretty cool stuff:

http://sourceforge.net/project/screenshots.php?group_id=62827

But you need something with "smarts". Either an automation system, or a
tablet with a WWW browser, or something like that.

-- Jeff

Gildahl
2006-08-01, 09:33
I also had a Linksys WMA11B as a previous poster mentioned. One of the reasons I eventually replaced it with a SB (actually, 2 of them) was because of its built-in display. The on-screen display of the WMA11B was cool at first, but after a while it became annoying to have to have the TV on all the time to use it. Sometimes I just wanted to play a tune, and it felt like overkill to start the TV and let it warm-up before choosing my music. Also, leaving the TV on all day when I just wanted to have music on in the background (but still see what was playing), seemed excessive. Especially since the bulb in my DLP rear screen projector has a limited lifespan and costs over $300 to replace.

I actually wouldn't mind having a video display *option* to supplement the built-in display; however, as others have noted, this kind of feature is somewhat mitigated by its existing web-based functionality. For example, if I want the multi-line interactive display akin to what a TV might display, I can simply log in with my PSP and get those same benefits as well as carry it around like a remote (who needs a Sanos if you've got a PSP).