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Talley, Brooks
2006-07-21, 11:48
I'm looking to finally replace my college-era $9.99 beep-beep-beep
digital alarm clock with something a little more aesthetic which can
play music. The squeezebox seems the obvious choice, except for the
lack of speakers.



What are people using? Are there any solutions that sound decent and
which match the SB3's look? I'm hoping to avoid the tons-of-wires
syndrome, and also the lots-of-crap-on-the-nightstand syndrome.
Ideally, there would be some kind of base that the SB3 could sit on and
which would incorporate speakers. But I guess we're low volume (har)
enough that that's not likely. Any of the ipod accessories work well
and look decent?



Thanks

-b

aubuti
2006-07-21, 12:51
There are a lot of powered speaker solutions out there, ranging in price from $20 to over $1000. But for what you describe it seems a lot of people like the Tivoli Audio table radios.

This has come up a few times in the forums, but here's one good thread, the highlight being the matching custom SB1 case that Dean's brother made for him.

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=10597&page=3

funkstar
2006-07-21, 15:13
I have a set of Harmon Kardon Soundstick IIs in my bedroom.

One significant down side to them is they have a rather bright blue LED in the Sub. Currently have a t-shirt draped over the top to stop this keeping me away, but i do intend to open it up and snip the thing out.

stinkingpig
2006-07-23, 11:03
On 7/21/06, aubuti <aubuti.2bb9pn1153511701 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com>
wrote:
>
>
> There are a lot of powered speaker solutions out there, ranging in price
> from $20 to over $1000. But for what you describe it seems a lot of
> people like the Tivoli Audio table radios.
>
> This has come up a few times in the forums, but here's one good thread,
> the highlight being the matching custom SB1 case that Dean's brother
> made for him.
>
> http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=10597&page=3
>
>
the Tivoli's are quite fabulous.

1) I went back and bought the subwoofer within about a day of listening to
them, and highly recommend it.

2) I think it looks better with the SB2 on top of it, though an SB3 would
still look fine. Besides, it's not like I see that much of them, some one
keeps piling stuff on my desk :)

3) Having real radio is quite nice; I just can't see streaming local
stations over the Internet when the same stuff is going by in the air at
higher fidelity.
--
"I spent all me tin with the ladies drinking gin,
So across the Western ocean I must wander" -- traditional

ceejay
2006-12-20, 16:17
OK, so an SB2 has been liberated by the recent arrival of a Transporter. What to do with it? Bedroom! I liked the idea of pairing it with a Tivoli One as per this thread (and others), listened to the standalone radio in a shop (it sounded good), bought one.

So the SB2 looks ok on top and sounds good. BUT ... the internal radio in the Tivoli is completely unusable unless I remove power completely from the SB2, due to interference.

Are other users of this combo having this problem? What have you done about it?

A possibly related question - I'm having to use the supplied "dangly bit of string" external ariel, even though I have a proper amplified, wired ariel feeding the room, as the box has a connector I don't recognise for plugging the ariel into. Any advice?

Thanks
Ceejay

Diana
2006-12-20, 16:51
...BUT ... the internal radio in the Tivoli is completely unusable unless I remove power completely from the SB2, due to interference.

Are other users of this combo having this problem? What have you done about it?

A possibly related question - I'm having to use the supplied "dangly bit of string" external ariel, even though I have a proper amplified, wired ariel feeding the room, as the box has a connector I don't recognise for plugging the ariel into. Any advice?

Thanks
Ceejay



I, too, had trouble with the RF noise from the SB when trying to use a radio it was sitting on. Radio unusable with SB connected to mains. Then I discovered the Creative Soundworks CD 740 - utterly stunning; and its radio works fine with the SB3 sitting on top and powered up. Here's a UK site (check out the reviews!); Creative in US sells it for about $350...

http://www.evesham.com/v2/products/info.asp?e=55F2F010-E5A0-4194-9620-B227DA9209AB

You can plug in a proper aerial, as you describe, for the FM input. The unit has a small footprint - but incorporates an amazing subwoofer. The sound is all round excellent, and at the price unbelievably good. And it has an alarm function (as well as a sleep function).

Mark Lanctot
2006-12-20, 17:00
There are reports that the SB2/SB3 power supply is responsible for the EMI.

If you could find an inexpensive linear PS, that should help. You'd also see whether the linear supply is "all that".

ceejay
2006-12-21, 01:56
Thanks for the responses.

The Creative device looks nice, but its too big, too expensive, and anyway isn't the tivoli that I've just bought!

There are at least two pictures of people using this setup on the forum - how have you solved the interference problem?

And what is that aerial connector on the back?

Ceejay

brookheather
2006-12-21, 03:01
I have tried using my SB3 as an alaram clock connected to Squeezenetwork but I have had intermittent problems where it fails to connect to the stream and so does not play any music to wake me up! Sometimes an old-tech alarm clock is more reliable!

- Simon.

Diana
2006-12-21, 03:21
Thanks for the responses.

The Creative device looks nice, but its too big, too expensive, and anyway isn't the tivoli that I've just bought!

There are at least two pictures of people using this setup on the forum - how have you solved the interference problem?

And what is that aerial connector on the back?

Ceejay

Ceejay >>> Of course, sorry about suggesting something you don't have and not talking about what you do have! (I guess I was really just contributing another idea to the thread generally.)

As for the interference problem, I didn't do anything at all - the Creative device seems not to be affected. I'd previously tried using the radio in a JVC EX-A1 Compact Component system with the SB3 on top, and that was hopeless; but the Creative device just worked - there isn't any significant interference.

And I'm using the supplied "dangly bit of string" external aerial, not any thing more sophisticated. I don't know much about the physics of radios, but this implies that the interference may not to be to do with the aerial itself; rather, I guess some internal component that matters is screened better in the Creative device than on other radios??? (At this point, all becomes shrouded in mystery as far as I'm concerned!)

The Creative user manual says that the rear panel aerial connector is an "FM Antenna 'F'-type jack, 75 ohms", and you can attach an adapter (included) that provides what looks for all the world like the sort of socket you get on the back of a VCR where you plug in the VCR end of the cable that connects to the aerial socket on the TV.

Pale Blue Ego
2006-12-21, 08:14
A powered speaker set that sounds fabulous and matches the look of the Squeezebox is the Acoustic Energy Aego M. Available in white or black and selling for $199, it has 2 tiny satellite speakers and a subwoofer. For a bedroom, you can put the sub under or behind the bed and put the satellites almost anywhere - on the nightstand(s) or attached to the headboard or footboard (mounting brackets are included).

You can find them online at

http://www.ccrane.com/radios/radio-accessories/acoustic-energy-aego-m-series-music-system.aspx
http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=AE26%2D06

Marc Sherman
2006-12-21, 09:17
Pale Blue Ego wrote:
> A powered speaker set that sounds fabulous and matches the look of the
> Squeezebox is the Acoustic Energy Aego M. Available in white or black
> and selling for $199, it has 2 tiny satellite speakers and a subwoofer.
> For a bedroom, you can put the sub under or behind the bed and put the
> satellites almost anywhere - on the nightstand(s) or attached to the
> headboard or footboard (mounting brackets are included).
>
> You can find them online at
>
> http://www.ccrane.com/radios/radio-accessories/acoustic-energy-aego-m-series-music-system.aspx
> http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=AE26%2D06

Does anyone know an online dealer in Canada, or a brick and mortar in
the Toronto area, that carries these speakers?

- Marc

philipi
2006-12-21, 10:16
We had an extra pair of Meridian DSP33s that we are using - Sounds very nice!

Diana
2006-12-21, 10:22
...Does anyone know an online dealer in Canada, or a brick and mortar in
the Toronto area, that carries these speakers?

- Marc

The AE site in UK says

http://www.acoustic-energy.co.uk/Where_to_buy/Canada.asp

stinkingpig
2006-12-21, 12:28
On 12/21/06, ceejay
<ceejay.2j5rdz1166691601 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the responses.
>
> The Creative device looks nice, but its too big, too expensive, and
> anyway isn't the tivoli that I've just bought!
>
> There are at least two pictures of people using this setup on the forum
> - how have you solved the interference problem?
>
> And what is that aerial connector on the back?
>

I'm using the Tivoli with an SB3 on top and the dangly string aerial
-- I hardly ever use the radio, but I don't hear interference when I
do. I've have some ground loop problems, but bundling up all the slack
cables with rubberbands took care of it.
--
"I spent all me tin with the ladies drinking gin,
So across the Western ocean I must wander" -- traditional

Marc Sherman
2006-12-21, 12:46
Diana wrote:
>
> The AE site in UK says
>
> http://www.acoustic-energy.co.uk/Where_to_buy/Canada.asp

Yes, I've seen that. It's not a very helpful page -- the two addresses
on it are both in the US.

- Marc

ceejay
2006-12-21, 16:15
I'm using the Tivoli with an SB3 on top and the dangly string aerial
-- I hardly ever use the radio, but I don't hear interference when I
do. I've have some ground loop problems, but bundling up all the slack
cables with rubberbands took care of it.


Thanks: interesting, because the interference is massive for me - the radio is completely unusable. Are you using the stock power supply for the SB?

Ceejay

stinkingpig
2006-12-21, 20:40
On 12/21/06, ceejay
<ceejay.2j6v7b1166743201 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com> wrote:
>
> Jack Coates;164067 Wrote:
> >
> >
> > I'm using the Tivoli with an SB3 on top and the dangly string aerial
> > -- I hardly ever use the radio, but I don't hear interference when I
> > do. I've have some ground loop problems, but bundling up all the slack
> > cables with rubberbands took care of it.
> >
>
> Thanks: interesting, because the interference is massive for me - the
> radio is completely unusable. Are you using the stock power supply for
> the SB?
>

yes. I just double-checked, and FM radio sounds totally fine.

--
"I spent all me tin with the ladies drinking gin,
So across the Western ocean I must wander" -- traditional

Diana
2006-12-22, 03:29
Diana wrote:
>
> The AE site in UK says
>
> http://www.acoustic-energy.co.uk/Where_to_buy/Canada.asp

Yes, I've seen that. It's not a very helpful page -- the two addresses
on it are both in the US.

- Marc

Doh! Sorry! ::D