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ceejay
2006-07-05, 13:54
Hi all,

I was just wondering about whether this was a good idea or not, and whether anyone of you good folks has tried this...

I'm looking at replacing my PVR for recording TV (mainly for watching in delayed mode): my current standalone PVR is ok but once its captured a recording there's no way of moving it out except in analog mode (eg to the TV). What I'd really like to be able to do is to hook it up to my network and FTP (or whatever) those few recordings that I really want to keep - so I can edit them properly before archiving on DVD.

So, we now have PVR devices which look like they will do this - for example the Dream Box ( http://www.dream-multimedia-tv.de/english/products_dm7025.php )

Of course, its an appliance computer running Linux.

So then I think... well, if I were to get one of these and run it 24x7, why not put slimserver on it too, so I don't have to have two boxes running all the time?

I have no idea how "open" the Linux is on these things, but I figured someone round here might know.

I note that its not a high powered CPU, so I'd have to watch out for scanning time (split scanning in 6.5 might help), and also for running outof horsepower if its trying to simultaneously capture two TV programmes and serve two or three SBs....

Has anyone successfully combined the Dream Box or a similar Linux-based PVR with Slimserver? If so, what can you tell us about it??

Failing that, and at the risk of going OT, has anyone tried one of these WITHOUT slimserver, and was it any good?

Inputs hugely appreciated.

(NB - I can record digital TV off-air on to one of my desktop computers, so when I know in advance that I want to record for later editing I can do that... but this isn't in the living room, and isn't driven by a nice simple remote with a high WAF, so doesn't meet all my needs - which is why I have the standalone PVR....)

Ceejay

kdf
2006-07-05, 14:00
Quoting ceejay <ceejay.2ahpto1152132902 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com>:

> Has anyone successfully combined the Dream Box or a similar Linux-based
> PVR with Slimserver? If so, what can you tell us about it??

I installed knoppmyth using the downloaded CD, upgraded perl, svn,
mysql. I then checked out a new copy of slimserver and used one of
the debian startup setups from the wiki to automate the service. A
few tweaks to the Myth Menu system and I even have softsqueeze as a
menu option from myth. This last bit required hacking Sun's java into
a .deb that could be installed. All details for the steps involved in
the above were found on google.

Pairing with MythTV has always been discussed on the forums before.
-kdf

peter
2006-07-13, 04:13
I have MythTV running with my Slimserver setup. Both on a Linux machine.

My 4 SB3's can control MythTV over a Slimserver plugin and a Perl Lirc
junction box I wrote.

If anyone's interested I can make the files available.
I was planning to document this, but I haven't had the time.

Regards,
Peter

On Wed, 5 Jul 2006 13:54:41 -0700, "ceejay"
<ceejay.2ahpto1152132902 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com> said:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I was just wondering about whether this was a good idea or not, and
> whether anyone of you good folks has tried this...
>
> I'm looking at replacing my PVR for recording TV (mainly for watching
> in delayed mode): my current standalone PVR is ok but once its captured
> a recording there's no way of moving it out except in analog mode (eg to
> the TV). What I'd really like to be able to do is to hook it up to my
> network and FTP (or whatever) those few recordings that I really want
> to keep - so I can edit them properly before archiving on DVD.
>
> So, we now have PVR devices which look like they will do this - for
> example the Dream Box (
> http://www.dream-multimedia-tv.de/english/products_dm7025.php )
>
> Of course, its an appliance computer running Linux.
>
> So then I think... well, if I were to get one of these and run it 24x7,
> why not put slimserver on it too, so I don't have to have two boxes
> running all the time?
>
> I have no idea how "open" the Linux is on these things, but I figured
> someone round here might know.
>
> I note that its not a high powered CPU, so I'd have to watch out for
> scanning time (split scanning in 6.5 might help), and also for running
> outof horsepower if its trying to simultaneously capture two TV
> programmes and serve two or three SBs....
>
> Has anyone successfully combined the Dream Box or a similar Linux-based
> PVR with Slimserver? If so, what can you tell us about it??
>
> Failing that, and at the risk of going OT, has anyone tried one of
> these WITHOUT slimserver, and was it any good?
>
> Inputs hugely appreciated.
>
> (NB - I can record digital TV off-air on to one of my desktop
> computers, so when I know in advance that I want to record for later
> editing I can do that... but this isn't in the living room, and isn't
> driven by a nice simple remote with a high WAF, so doesn't meet all my
> needs - which is why I have the standalone PVR....)
>
> Ceejay
>
>
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Paul_B
2006-07-13, 05:52
Just had a look at MythTV and it looks very good. I am looking to deploy some touch screens around the house to control home-automation. The MythTV looks a good way to also distribute video.

I see that MythMusic is not very well rated and they are embarking on a project to upgrade it.

Zed Roeder
2007-01-23, 04:10
I have MythTV running with my Slimserver setup. Both on a Linux machine.

My 4 SB3's can control MythTV over a Slimserver plugin and a Perl Lirc
junction box I wrote.

If anyone's interested I can make the files available.
I was planning to document this, but I haven't had the time.

Regards,
Peter
> [/color]

Hi Peter!

I'm just setting up Mythtv an Slimserver on the same machine and i'm very interrested in controlling mythtv over my SB3 remote.

Can you please document your setup and make the corresponding files available.

Thanks

Zed

Greg Erskine
2007-01-23, 04:26
hi ceejay,

Slightly OT. I recently bought a Topfield TF6000PVR which has wireless networking. Works OK, but they could learn a few things from Slimserver/Squeezebox.

Another option, I have heard people connecting PVRs USB to an intermediate box (ICE box2??) then brigding through a wireless SB. Saves cables.

regards

peter
2007-01-23, 07:13
Zed Roeder wrote:
> Hi Peter!
>
> I'm just setting up Mythtv an Slimserver on the same machine and i'm
> very interrested in controlling mythtv over my SB3 remote.
>
> Can you please document your setup and make the corresponding files
> available.
>

Hi Zed,

The latest plugin is available here:
http://a213-84-196-8.adsl.xs4all.nl/slim2lirc/Lirc.pm
The 'Lirc junction box' application can be found here:
http://a213-84-196-8.adsl.xs4all.nl/slim2lirc/lircjb

You start the lircjb (from /etc/rc.local or manually)

/usr/local/bin/lircjb -l -p 12345 /dev/lircd &

You copy the Lirc.pm plugin to the slimserver Plugin directory and
restart slimserver. Lirc.pm will be sending IR codes it receives over
UDP port 12345 to lircjb.

At this time you should be able to run 'irw' and see the slimremote
buttons you press being echoed. Note: Lirc.pm only captures and
retransmits button presses when a SqueezeBox is off (standby) or when
you've selected 'Lirc Remote' from the Plugin menu.

Now you must edit the mythtv .lircrc file to tell mythtv what buttons to
react to and what to do when they are pressed. Note that Lirc.pm only
forwards codes it recognizes. At the moment that means the slimdevices
remote, but the code mapping can be changed at the end of the Lirc.pm file.

I'd be interested to hear if it works for you.

Regards,
Peter

Zed Roeder
2007-01-23, 07:32
Zed Roeder wrote:[color=blue]
Now you must edit the mythtv .lircrc file to tell mythtv what buttons to
react to and what to do when they are pressed. Note that Lirc.pm only
forwards codes it recognizes. At the moment that means the slimdevices
remote, but the code mapping can be changed at the end of the Lirc.pm file.

I'd be interested to hear if it works for you.

Regards,
Peter

Hi Peter!

Thanks for the quick reply.

Could you please post in addition your corresponding .lircrc file?

I dont know when i have the time to install everything, but after that i will post my results...

Dank u wel

Zed

ceejay
2007-01-23, 08:51
hi ceejay,

Slightly OT. I recently bought a Topfield TF6000PVR which has wireless networking. Works OK, but they could learn a few things from Slimserver/Squeezebox.

Another option, I have heard people connecting PVRs USB to an intermediate box (ICE box2??) then brigding through a wireless SB. Saves cables.

regards

Yes, it looks good, but AFAIK still some way from being available in a UK DVB-T configuration, although I think this has been talked about for months.

Ceejay

peter
2007-01-23, 11:27
Zed Roeder wrote:
> Peter;173280 Wrote:
>
>> Zed Roeder wrote:[color=blue]
>> Now you must edit the mythtv .lircrc file to tell mythtv what buttons
>> to
>> react to and what to do when they are pressed. Note that Lirc.pm only
>> forwards codes it recognizes. At the moment that means the slimdevices
>>
>> remote, but the code mapping can be changed at the end of the Lirc.pm
>> file.
>>
>> I'd be interested to hear if it works for you.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Peter
>>
>
> Hi Peter!
>
> Thanks for the quick reply.
>
> Could you please post in addition your corresponding .lircrc file?
>
> I dont know when i have the time to install everything, but after that
> i will post my results...
>

It's a bit of a mess, I keep meaning to sort it out:
http://a213-84-196-8.adsl.xs4all.nl/slim2lirc/.lircrc

> Dank u wel
>

Graag gedaan :)

Regards,
Peter

dSw
2007-01-23, 13:25
Yes, it looks good, but AFAIK still some way from being available in a UK DVB-T configuration, although I think this has been talked about for months.

Ceejay

I have a Topfield TF5800 (dual tuner DVB-T PVR) and it's fantastic (see http://www.toppy.org.uk/ for more info). Not quite capable of running Slimserver, but I do have a Mini-ITX Linux PC connected to it via a USB cable and use my SB2 to bridge onto my wireless LAN. This means I can pull recordings off the PVR and load software onto it from my PC upstairs.

ceejay
2007-01-23, 15:17
I have a Topfield TF5800 (dual tuner DVB-T PVR) and it's fantastic (see http://www.toppy.org.uk/ for more info). Not quite capable of running Slimserver, but I do have a Mini-ITX Linux PC connected to it via a USB cable and use my SB2 to bridge onto my wireless LAN. This means I can pull recordings off the PVR and load software onto it from my PC upstairs.

Yes, I have looked at that - my problem would be that I really don't want any kind of PC in the place where the PVR is. It looks like the 6000 would do the job, if only they'd make a suitable UK version...

Ceejay

peter
2007-01-24, 01:46
ceejay wrote:
> Yes, I have looked at that - my problem would be that I really don't
> want any kind of PC in the place where the PVR is. It looks like the
> 6000 would do the job, if only they'd make a suitable UK version...
>

That's the whole point of the Lirc module. You don't want a PC in the
place where your SB is either. My PC (Linux Server) is safely tucked
away in its own room. The A/V outputs are connected to my living room TV
with a CAT5 cable (over 2 A/V baluns:
http://www.videocapturecard.com/svideobalun2.html ). That way there's no
PC in sight, just a TV set, an SB3 and two powered speakers. The slim
remote controls MythTV while the SB is on standby. You can't get much
cleaner or quieter than that IMHO.

Regards,
Peter

dSw
2007-01-24, 01:47
Yes, I have looked at that - my problem would be that I really don't want any kind of PC in the place where the PVR is. It looks like the 6000 would do the job, if only they'd make a suitable UK version...

Ceejay

If its just a network connection that you're after and you don't want a full blown PC then you could use a Linksys NSLU2 or an Asus WL-500G to attach the 5800 to your wireless network. No sign of the 6000 in the UK anytime soon.

ceejay
2007-01-24, 02:46
Thanks for the comments.

Wiring a PC to the place where the TV/SB/PVR are isn't feasible, unfortunately. But I do have a wireless LAN going to the SB (actually a TP).

Hence the 6000 seeming exactly what I need.

There are three things stopping me doing the 5800/NSLU2 thing:

1 - I'd have to find somewhere to hide the slug (ok, could probably find a spot behind the woofer)

2 - it seems like a kludgy and inelegant solution, and I yearn for elegance in technical solutions

3 - I'm convinced that if I do go this route, within 3 months they will finally bring out the 6000 (or an equivalent device from someone else will come out) and I'll be really miffed.

On the other hand, I am getting increasing frustrated by the single tuner on my existing PVR, and my inability to transfer recordings from it, so its just possible that this frustration may force me to take action anyway!

Ceejay

Zed Roeder
2007-02-28, 04:36
Hi Peter!

Your script for handling mythtv via the squeezebox remote works great.

Now i can handle tv and music over just one remote.

Thanks for your help!

Zed

EFP
2007-04-26, 09:51
Peter,

I've finally had a chance to try out your plugin and can't quite get the myth frontend to respond.. (after reading through my post i realize maybe i need to kick over the frontend for the new .lircrc to be used..)

irw is displaying button presses from the slim remote.. I've tried out your lircrc file as well as making my own

running lircjb with verbose, it seems to be passing the commands to -> OUT1

does this make sense? I assume it is right because if lircd is not running then it fails to connect.

anyhow assuming i can get this straightened out, you mentioned it would be possible to edit the lirc.pm file for additional remote codes.. can you just take them from an arbitrary conf file like this?
http://lirc.sourceforge.net/remotes/ge/UNIVERSAL

thanks for this great plugin i can't wait to get it sorted

Zed Roeder
2008-08-04, 11:16
Hi Peter!

Your script for handling mythtv via the squeezebox remote works great.

Now i can handle tv and music over just one remote.

Thanks for your help!

Zed

Hi Peter,

long time ago i installed your Remote-Controller-Script to use the Squeezebox-Remote for Mythtv. It works like a charm, but after installing Sqeezecenter the remote don't function anymore in mythtv.

Logfile: "Slim::Utils::PluginManager::enablePlugins (408) Couldn't load Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin. Error: Plugin is not compatible with your platform."

Have you the same problems, or already a solution that works in Sqeezencenter???

Thanks and regards

Zed