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Oscar Marsh
2003-11-24, 14:55
Hello everyone

I've knocked out a simple AppleScript to add the currently selected
track in iTunes to the end of a SlimServer playlist. Specify the
playlist as well as the path to your SlimServer playlists directory by
editing the first 2 lines of the script. Make one copy of the script
for each playlist you want to add tunes to.

This AppleScript might be of use to Mac iTunes users who don't use the
SlimServer iTunes integration but want to quickly file a track in a
SlimServer playlist. Maybe you are building a list of tunes for
playback on your SLIMP3 or Squeezebox but you're in iTunes. Maybe
you've just listened to something in iTunes and you want to add it to
your Favourites list on your SlimServer. Whatever. Try it out. I
personally use it to monitor an automated AppleScript which files
downloaded tracks to a playlist for future assessment.

More detailed instructions are included in the script. Please tell me
what you think.

Oscar Marsh
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Charlie
2003-11-24, 15:51
My music library is a mixture of pop and classical music. The classical
is organized by composer (the artist being the musician/conductor
etc.). I don't see a way in the server to search or browse by composer.
Am I missing something? Can this be configured by the user? If not, is
it a planned improvement?

Great product otherwise!

Charlie

Oscar Marsh
2003-11-24, 16:34
> I don't see a way in the server to search or browse by composer. Am I
> missing something? Can this be configured by the user? If not, is it a
> planned improvement?

You can turn on Composer tag support in Server Settings. It treats the
Composer tag as an Artist tag and adds Composers into the Artists list.

As for a separate Composer browse system, it's not available yet. It is
planned - on the Yahoo list Dean called out for someone to code it.
No-one has yet :) I'd like to see it if it's not too hard to sling
together.

The reason I'd like a standalone Composer system is that I put
composers into my tags as surnames, rather than full names (which I
think is the way Apple assume with iTunes). Therefore Composer - writer
- is a very different affair from Artist - performer. Putting in a
Browse Composers menu would open up a new way of looking at the
library. It'd be interesting. Sort of like turning on the Composer
column in iTunes. If you've put Composer tags into all your files like
I have, almost, it's handy at least.

What does everyone else think?

Oscar Marsh
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Oscar Marsh
2003-11-24, 16:35
> I don't see a way in the server to search or browse by composer. Am I
> missing something? Can this be configured by the user? If not, is it a
> planned improvement?

You can turn on Composer tag support in Server Settings. It treats the
Composer tag as an Artist tag and adds Composers into the Artists list.

As for a separate Composer browse system, it's not available yet. It is
planned - on the Yahoo list Dean called out for someone to code it.
No-one has yet :) I'd like to see it if it's not too hard to sling
together.

The reason I'd like a standalone Composer system is that I put
composers into my tags as surnames, rather than full names (which I
think is the way Apple assume with iTunes). Therefore Composer - writer
- is a very different affair from Artist - performer. Putting in a
Browse Composers menu would open up a new way of looking at the
library. It'd be interesting. Sort of like turning on the Composer
column in iTunes. If you've put Composer tags into all your files like
I have, almost, it's handy at least.

What does everyone else think?

Oscar Marsh
--
jabber: ojmarsh (AT) jabber (DOT) anywise.com
AIM: oscarjackmarsh

rpgoldman@real-time.com
2003-11-24, 20:15
This is probably a very stupid question, but what "composer" tag are
you all referring to? I've been using id3ed (linux) to edit my tags,
and it doesn't offer any such tag, nor does easytag, nor grip, the
tool I've been using for ripping.

Also, if you use the composer tag for the composer, what do you put in
the artist tag? I can see what one might do for a soloist, but what
about an orchestra (orchestra or conductor?) or an opera (company?
important soloist)?

I've never been able to figure out how to generalize ID3 from pop
music in the singer/songwriter mode to jazz (singer/band often !=
composer) or classical (performers almost never = composer). I'd love
any help (or just pointers).

Thanks!
R

Oscar Marsh
2003-11-25, 06:47
On Nov 25, 2003, at 3:15 am, rpgoldman (AT) real-time (DOT) com wrote:

>
> This is probably a very stupid question, but what "composer" tag are
> you all referring to? I've been using id3ed (linux) to edit my tags,
> and it doesn't offer any such tag, nor does easytag, nor grip, the
> tool I've been using for ripping.

Perhaps it's unique to iTunes and not part of a specification. I don't
think that's correct though - isn't it part of ID3v2.2?

> Also, if you use the composer tag for the composer, what do you put in
> the artist tag? I can see what one might do for a soloist, but what
> about an orchestra (orchestra or conductor?) or an opera (company?
> important soloist)?

a) Yes, if it's a soloist I've been putting that in the artist tag on
its own.
b) For orchestras etc. I put in something like this:
London Symphony Orchestra cond. Claudio Abbado
and, if there are soloists within the same album they might go into the
Comments tag, or I just leave it out - I haven't actually got much
classical music on my computer yet.

> I've never been able to figure out how to generalize ID3 from pop
> music in the singer/songwriter mode to jazz (singer/band often !=
> composer) or classical (performers almost never = composer). I'd love
> any help (or just pointers).

Well, I don't put in full names into the Composer tag. Just the
surname/names of whoever wrote the song (Words and/or music.) Most pop
album sleeves tell you who wrote each track and if it doesn't and you
really want to be precise you can look on www.allmusic.com

I've worked out a convention that fits the way I want my library to
function. When the library really starts to get huge, it's nice for the
ID3 tags to do most of the finding for me.

Oscar Marsh
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Charlie
2003-11-25, 08:13
For pop music I make it a point to leave the composer tag empty so if
I'm searching for classical music it's not cluttered by a bunch of
miscellaneous pop composers. Also, my original plan was to leave the
artist field empty for classical music to clear up pop searches, but
that didn't work since I have multiple recordings of some classical
works. Normally I use just the conductor last name or soloist just to
identify the recording.

Searching by only composer is the only way to do this that really works
well. Hopefully someone will come up with the code!