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Mark Lanctot
2006-06-24, 08:19
Just updated to the latest nightly in order to correct bug 2510 (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2510).

The largest difference I noticed was a very neat plugin - switch to SqueezeNetwork. It's prominently there on the home page.

I tried it out - works flawlessly. It's the first SlimServer/SqueezeNetwork integration I've seen, it's been requested a few times, it's very visible on the home page and it works so well I'm surprised no one's commented on it. But despite several searches with different terms and manual browsing of the General Discussion, SqueezeNetwork and 3rd Party Plugins forums I can find no mention of it.

So in case it's been missed - thanks developers! Great job. And I think this is the first sign of a trend towards integration of SlimServer and SqueezeNetwork.

kdf
2006-06-24, 08:38
On 24-Jun-06, at 8:19 AM, Mark Lanctot wrote:

>
> I tried it out - works flawlessly. It's the first
> SlimServer/SqueezeNetwork integration I've seen,

for completeness, it was recently added to the web UI.
a menu item has been on the playerUI since squeezeNetwork went full
release.

"new" things are cool, but progress is an important thing too.
-k

JJZolx
2006-06-24, 09:58
The largest difference I noticed was a very neat plugin - switch to SqueezeNetwork. It's prominently there on the home page.

I tried it out - works flawlessly. It's the first SlimServer/SqueezeNetwork integration I've seen
Can you switch back - disconnect the SB from SqueezeNetwork and connect to the local server - from the web interface?

rudholm
2006-06-24, 10:03
What would be really cool is if the Squeezenetwork web interface had the full suite of controls, including the ability to disconnect from Squeezenetwork and go back to Slimserver.

I have patio speakers for outdoor listening. When I use them the IR remote isn't an option since the SB is far away, so I use a laptop to control the music. But this means Squeezenetwork and Pandora are not an option, which is disappointing.

I imagine anyone using anything besides the IR remote for SB control would feel the same way.

Mark Lanctot
2006-06-24, 10:21
Can you switch back - disconnect the SB from SqueezeNetwork and connect to the local server - from the web interface?

No. SS -> SN, not the other way around.

JJZolx
2006-06-24, 10:43
No. SS -> SN, not the other way around.
Once the box is on SqueezeNetwork, does it automatically connect to the most recent feed, or do you still need to use the remote to begin playing something?

Kevin O. Lepard
2006-06-24, 11:03
>JJZolx Wrote:
>> Can you switch back - disconnect the SB from SqueezeNetwork and connect
>> to the local server - from the web interface?
>
>No. SS -> SN, not the other way around.

Pity. I'm sure people are working on it, but I've never been quite
sure why the Squeezenetwork was not better integrated into the main
menus. I don't understand why you need to sign on to use those
services as a separate step. I mean could not selecting Pandora
imply the need to sign on without having to explicitly go through
that step? And couldn't selecting "Library" on the SB automatically
switch back to slimserver without explicitly signing off?

To me, those steps seem clearly implied and therefore should not need
to be performed explicitly in separate steps.

As I said, I'm sure people are working on it.

Kevin
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Mark Lanctot
2006-06-24, 11:42
Once the box is on SqueezeNetwork, does it automatically connect to the most recent feed, or do you still need to use the remote to begin playing something?

Just like connecting to SN through the player UI, you need to select something.

JJZolx
2006-06-24, 13:13
Just like connecting to SN through the player UI, you need to select something.
I'm having a difficult time understanding what good this feature is by itself. It would be much more useful to have the ability to break the SB away from SqueezeNetwork from the web ui.

kdf
2006-06-24, 15:49
Quoting JJZolx <JJZolx.29xamz1151180101 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com>:

>
> Mark Lanctot Wrote:
>> Just like connecting to SN through the player UI, you need to select
>> something.
> I'm having a difficult time understanding what good this feature is by
> itself. It would be much more useful to have the ability to break the
> SB away from SqueezeNetwork from the web ui.

that may eventually come too. This one is a step, jjzolx. Clearly,
it wasn't written just for you, but some out there appear to
appreciate it for their needs. It doesn't always make sense for
everyone. I personally have all the features I need on slimserver,
and only use SQN for testing a few things now and again. With just
one player (old SBG) running rss in the kitchen (sitting on the
microwave, wirelessly, no less)
-k

JJZolx
2006-06-24, 17:00
This one is a step, jjzolx. Clearly, it wasn't written just for you, but some out there appear to appreciate it for their needs.
Which is what I was asking. How is this ability by itself the least bit useful to those people? I'm not knocking the feature, but I fail to understand how anyone could get excited by it.

You connect a box to SqueezeNetwork through the web ui from a PC or your PDA. Then you pick up the remote and use the remote interface to connect to a feed. You could have more easily connected to SqueezeNetwork with the remote itself.

Mark Lanctot
2006-06-24, 17:25
Actually there's been at least two threads asking for this very thing.

These were people with SBs in inaccessible locations, media closets, no remote etc.

Personally I can't use the feature. But I still think it's a good idea.

stevek1006
2006-06-25, 06:53
Actually there's been at least two threads asking for this very thing.

These were people with SBs in inaccessible locations, media closets, no remote etc.

Personally I can't use the feature. But I still think it's a good idea.

First, let me say I agree with KDF, that this is a first step and a good one. I am sure developers on the SqueezeNetwork side are working on a way to get us back to slimserver from squeezenetwork.

On the other hand, it is exactly those people have there Squeezeboxes in inaccessible locations who will find the new feature by itself pretty useless. What good is it to be able to switch to SqueezeNetwork, if it causes you to loose access to your library. Having my Squeezebox connected to a whole house system in the basement, I really cannot use this feature though I would like to. I think this is what JJZolx is getting at.

Again, though I am sure that the other half of the equation will come eventually. I do recall Sean or someone saying that the goal is to eventually have the differences between Squeezenetwork and slimserver made completely transparent to the user.

andyg
2006-07-05, 09:29
SN now has the ability to disconnect a player via the website. The link is located at the top of the Squeezeboxes -> Preferences page.

atlslim
2006-07-05, 10:24
Andy,

When will the "switch to SN" from the web ui go live in 6.5?

Thanks!!

andyg
2006-07-05, 10:25
Yeah, I guess I should add it to 6.5, although the location will be temporary since we're planning better integration for 6.5.