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Jason Holtzapple
2003-11-22, 16:18
Just as the subject says.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/34141.html

"An application called MyTunes already performs much
the same function, but Johansen's is open source. He
therefore unveils the analog hole, and the entry wound
the bullet made. And the exit hole."

Did anyone not see this coming? It should make people
who want to listen to ITMS purchases on their SLIMP3
happy.

--Jason

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seanadams
2003-11-22, 17:16
What friggin "analog hole" is he talking about? He is not recording off
the output - any idiot can do that.

This is dumping the AAC stream as it flows through quicktime - very,
very smart.

I was telling Dean that it wouldn't be more than a wekk after iTunes
for Windows ships before someone does exactly this. I was off by a few
weeks, but hey.

PS: we're donating to the EFF. Every squeezebox sold helps to defend
guys like Jon Johansen.

Also see our previous press release concerning DRM:

http://www.slimdevices.com/slimdrm.html


On Nov 22, 2003, at 3:18 PM, Jason Holtzapple wrote:

> Just as the subject says.
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/34141.html
>
> "An application called MyTunes already performs much
> the same function, but Johansen's is open source. He
> therefore unveils the analog hole, and the entry wound
> the bullet made. And the exit hole."
>
> Did anyone not see this coming? It should make people
> who want to listen to ITMS purchases on their SLIMP3
> happy.
>
> --Jason
>
> __________________________________
> Do you Yahoo!?
> Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now
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Mark Palmberg
2003-11-22, 22:12
So, great. Now how long until someone tells an idiot like me how I can
play iTMS AAC tunes from my iTunes library over my SLiMP3s?


On Nov 22, 2003, at 6:16 PM, Sean Adams wrote:

>
> What friggin "analog hole" is he talking about? He is not recording
> off the output - any idiot can do that.
>
> This is dumping the AAC stream as it flows through quicktime - very,
> very smart.
>
> I was telling Dean that it wouldn't be more than a wekk after iTunes
> for Windows ships before someone does exactly this. I was off by a few
> weeks, but hey.
>
> PS: we're donating to the EFF. Every squeezebox sold helps to defend
> guys like Jon Johansen.
>
> Also see our previous press release concerning DRM:
>
> http://www.slimdevices.com/slimdrm.html
>
>
> On Nov 22, 2003, at 3:18 PM, Jason Holtzapple wrote:
>
>> Just as the subject says.
>>
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/34141.html
>>
>> "An application called MyTunes already performs much
>> the same function, but Johansen's is open source. He
>> therefore unveils the analog hole, and the entry wound
>> the bullet made. And the exit hole."
>>
>> Did anyone not see this coming? It should make people
>> who want to listen to ITMS purchases on their SLIMP3
>> happy.
>>
>> --Jason
>>
>> __________________________________
>> Do you Yahoo!?
>> Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now
>> http://companion.yahoo.com/
>>

seanadams
2003-11-23, 15:03
On Nov 22, 2003, at 9:12 PM, Mark Palmberg wrote:

> So, great. Now how long until someone tells an idiot like me how I
> can play iTMS AAC tunes from my iTunes library over my SLiMP3s?
>

For the time being, the easiest way is still to burn the iTMS files to
CD, then rip them back minus the DRM. We're still waiting for a tool
which does this automatically and without loss, but we're getting
close.

The reason QTFairUse is a breakthrough is because it lets you access
the unencrypted AAC stream for any iTMS files you're licensed to play,
without having to convert through an intermediate compression process
(which loses some quality).

However, it's not a convenient process yet, and it only works on
Windows. Some work is needed to make the extraction easier to do.

The "holy grail", of course, is to defeat the copy protection entirely,
without having to pipe the data through quicktime using your key.

DRM only inconveniences those of us who pay for our music.

Ted Rathkopf
2003-11-23, 20:53
Aaarr, Sean Adams <sadams (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com>
What ye be sayin'?

> What friggin "analog hole" is he talking about? He is not recording
> off the output - any idiot can do that.

It seems that the article has been corrected. It now reads:

An application called MyTunes already performs much the same
function, but Johansen's is open source. He therefore unveils the
DLL entry point, and the exit hole. ... (This isn't, as we foolishly
thought earlier, the analog hole: the software isn't capturing the
output of the sound card - it's intercepting QuickTime playback
before it has a chanced to be 0wn3d (or however you spell it), by
Hollywood.


--
Ted Rathkopf