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bobharp
2006-04-19, 07:10
I have been wondering forum users would post how they distribute audio (if they do) for whole house audio goodness.

Slim Devices could possibly then polish up the diagrams and info for posting on the website. For example these could be added to the diagram at http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_overview.html .

Diagrams could show:
SB synchronization
SB hooked to multiroom amp/recievers
SB hooked up to A-BUS (CAT5 multiroom audio distribution)
SB integrated with AMX NetLinx
others??
This may be documented somewhere but I could not find it.

bobharp
2006-04-19, 09:10
Ok I'll be the first. Hopefully Slim Devices won't mind that I borrowed some of their graphics.

bobharp
2006-04-20, 07:44
Wow. Looks like my thread is dying. Oh well. In the above graphic. I have one SB downstairs driving my Cambridge Soundwork system (so I can view whats playing) while the other is hooked into my multi-zone system.

abdomen
2006-04-20, 08:19
Wow. Looks like my thread is dying. Oh well. In the above graphic. I have one SB downstairs driving my Cambridge Soundwork system (so I can view whats playing) while the other is hooked into my multi-zone system.
I really appreciate your diagram, as I am planning to implement a similar system (essentially a SB in some rooms and just a wall volume control in others) as part of a renovation project this summer/fall. Can you provide more details and/or a link about your multi-zone system?

Kyle
2006-04-20, 08:33
I have one SB in the den with the analog outputs going into my Russound whole house system and the digital (coax) driving my Marantz den receiver.

bobharp
2006-04-20, 09:10
abdomen,
Thanks. I'm a visual guy. Need to see it to understand it. Sounds like an A-Bus set up might be cheaper for you. Check out this link from Russound: http://www.russound.com/doccenter/download.php?id=192
If you want to drive a good set of speakers this might not be a good way to do it. The wall keypads can't contain that good of an amp or much power.
I tripped (googled) across this article from Contruction tech while researching solutions for a friend. http://tinyurl.com/rr7cp


My setup is a Harmon Kardon (HK) 2 zone receiver and 4 zone amp and wall decora keypads. The amp is/was really cool (not sure they currently sell it) and powerful. The wall keypads plugged into the back of the amp for power, volume and source (IR) control via cat 5 cable. Stereo speaker cable for that zone ran to the kitchen (Polks), deck (polks), and bathroom (niles). What I had trouble finding was a good vehicle for bass sound downstairs. My SB/Cambridge solved that issue with a spankin good display for what was playing.
Many vendors have this same type of amp setup now. Probably why HK bailed. HK seems to have bought or stood up Audioaccess:
http://www.audioaccess.com they have a lot of cool products as well. There is tons of products on the market now. Russound has a solid product line. Wish I could play with them. HKs new receivers have an A-BUS port. All cool stuff. Wish I had $$. (I do not work for HK)

bobharp
2006-04-20, 09:13
I have one SB in the den with the analog outputs going into my Russound whole house system and the digital (coax) driving my Marantz den receiver.
Had not thought of that. One SB with multiple outputs. Cool.

peter
2006-04-20, 09:48
It's a nice idea, though. It's just that my setup's a bit complicated
and it's quite a job to make a diagram.

Regards,
Peter

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sfraser
2006-04-20, 12:27
Will see if this jpeg post's. This is my current setup

Kyle
2006-04-20, 12:30
Had not thought of that. One SB with multiple outputs. Cool.

Synchronization? No problem.

JJZolx
2006-04-20, 13:06
Had not thought of that. One SB with multiple outputs. Cool.
That would just be a fairly standard whole house audio installation, like they've been doing for the past 20 years or so, except using a Squeezebox as a source instead of, or in addition to, an FM tuner or CD player. If I were doing whole-house audio, I'd do this as well in rooms and areas where I just needed background music - kitchen, dining room, bathrooms, halls, patio, etc.

The biggest advantage is easy mutlti-zone playback without worrying about synching (or buying) multiple Squeezeboxes. Another nice advantage over say a CD player as source is that you can control the player from anywhere in the house from a networked computer.

In other rooms where I'd prefer to have a better quality system (listening room, master bedroom), with speakers and amp in the room itself, have a Squeezebox there, where you can use the remote and view the SB screen. If you want to pipe in the whole-house to those rooms, use it as another source into your preamp or integrated amplifier.

I know a lot of people are happy synching a bunch of Squeezeboxes to tackle the issue of whole-house audio. But I just don't see it as being convenient or reliable enough to be worth the trouble.

bobharp
2006-04-21, 05:21
If I were doing whole-house audio, I'd do this as well in rooms and areas where I just needed background music - kitchen, dining room, bathrooms, halls, patio, etc.

I concur, I just wanted to expose/share other methods of achieving this solution.


Another nice advantage over say a CD player as source is that you can control the player from anywhere in the house from a networked computer.

Or wireless handheld! Wish I had one. How about an in wall keypad?
Who has in-wall control (AMX or Xantech) for their setup?



I know a lot of people are happy synching a bunch of Squeezeboxes to tackle the issue of whole-house audio. But I just don't see it as being convenient or reliable enough to be worth the trouble.

I have had minor annoyances with this. A stop and start usually resolves the issue. I'm just geeky enough to love the technology behind the scenes that makes it work.

caribbeansun
2006-07-25, 04:56
I assume your keypads don't have any data feedback (playlist/artist/track) from the SB so you must be controlling this from either a PC/handheld or from the SB itself?


I have one SB in the den with the analog outputs going into my Russound whole house system and the digital (coax) driving my Marantz den receiver.