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KevinW
2006-03-31, 20:53
I want to show all songs regardless if they are chekced or not. I change this setting but it keeps on changing back and as a result I only see nine albums out of the 324 albums that I have. Any suggestions - other than checking all songs? (Running 6.2.1 5194 on XP)


Also, Just had the SB3 wireless for a week. The initial impression is that the hardware is quite acceptable. Sound quality probably equals +/- a standard CD player. The SlimServer, on the other hand, seems to be trash. Very unreliable, finicky and slow. Like most poorly written software, it does far more than the average user wants but can't do the basic things well. This is to bad because the strength of this kind of set up will never be the audio quality, but the ability to get instant and organized access to 100s of CDs. The crapy SS software fustrates this goal. SD would better serve their customers if they hired some competent programmers and wrote a robuts and responsive application, perferably a WinForm App as the primary. They need something that is going to do the basic work of display and play, reliably, 99.999% of the time.

KW

snarlydwarf
2006-03-31, 21:01
I don't know what you mean by checked.... do you mean indexed? They need to be indexed to play. If for some reason you really don't want to scan the music directory for music files... you could use Browse Music Folder, and it will add files as it comes across them (either a directory at a time in the web browser, or a track at a time from the remote).

What are you using for a server? I just passed 1000 albums an P2/400 with 256M and it works just fine: but, then, that's all that system is used for, and it certainly does the 'basic things' well: it's playing music from 7:30am until midnight most of the time.

(sigh, 58 more tracks to 10k tracks.. but, then Ben Harper and Marisa Monte have double-albums out now, so will have to try to pick them up tomorrow.)

KevinW
2006-04-01, 02:33
Sorry, it is "the UnCheck Songs In ITunes" setting. Glad to hear about your 1000 albums. My SS is on my secondary computer that gets used on occasion. I am not sure computer use is the problem. I would pay extra for a Win App that just did display and play.

timmorris
2006-04-01, 02:42
I want to show all songs regardless if they are chekced or not. I change this setting but it keeps on changing back and as a result I only see nine albums out of the 324 albums that I have. Any suggestions - other than checking all songs? (Running 6.2.1 5194 on XP)

I don't know what you mean by checked. If you mean scanned by Slimserver then there is a plug in which allows you to scan once every 24 hours. If you keep loosing albums it could be because your ripping software isn;t tagging the files properly.



The SlimServer, on the other hand, seems to be trash. Very unreliable, finicky and slow. Like most poorly written software, it does far more than the average user wants but can't do the basic things well. This is to bad because the strength of this kind of set up will never be the audio quality, but the ability to get instant and organized access to 100s of CDs. The crapy SS software fustrates this goal. SD would better serve their customers if they hired some competent programmers and wrote a robuts and responsive application, perferably a WinForm App as the primary. They need something that is going to do the basic work of display and play, reliably, 99.999% of the time.

KW

Trash and crappy aren't words I'd use. I do have an issue with the fact that some of the advanced features are poorly documented, but the software works perfectly for me. I just rip using EAC and encode using FLAC in one pass directly onto a Windows Small Business Server which has around 8 clients accessing it during the course of the day and it runs 4 Squeezeboxes perfectly. Audio quality may not be a priority for you, but it certainly is for me.

Perhaps if you changed the tone of your post, explained your problem in detail someone might dive in and help you.

What ripping software do you use?
How are you encoding your files - and what format?
How is your music organised?

I've been waiting for years for networked mp3 players to come of age and Slimserver together with the Squeezebox 3 does everything I want to and because of the nature of the Open Source software it will continue to evolve as users require and add more features.

jlynch3
2006-04-01, 06:09
6.2.2 on MacOS 10.4.5... quite annoying. I am going to try a later build


I want to show all songs regardless if they are chekced or not. I change this setting but it keeps on changing back and as a result I only see nine albums out of the 324 albums that I have. Any suggestions - other than checking all songs? (Running 6.2.1 5194 on XP)


Also, Just had the SB3 wireless for a week. The initial impression is that the hardware is quite acceptable. Sound quality probably equals +/- a standard CD player. The SlimServer, on the other hand, seems to be trash. Very unreliable, finicky and slow. Like most poorly written software, it does far more than the average user wants but can't do the basic things well. This is to bad because the strength of this kind of set up will never be the audio quality, but the ability to get instant and organized access to 100s of CDs. The crapy SS software fustrates this goal. SD would better serve their customers if they hired some competent programmers and wrote a robuts and responsive application, perferably a WinForm App as the primary. They need something that is going to do the basic work of display and play, reliably, 99.999% of the time.

KW

KevinW
2006-04-02, 18:57
timmorris thnaks for the response.

My problem is that the "uncheck songs in ITune" check box will not stay the way I want it - I want to display songs that are not checked. I rip using ITunes and use lossless.

As far as my characterization of SS, I think it is about right. The problem is that it is not reliable. I hold my breath every time I use it. Often it will not respond or there will be a significant delay in it responding. Having it open on two browsers seems to be asking for trouble. Sometimes it does not show all the CDs and I need to rescan. To me it just has the feel of a temperamental program. It is certainly not robust. When it works, which it usually does, I have no problem with it - although I donít like browser based apps.

Clearly, the very forum we are communicating in is a testament to the number of problems that users have. While no doubt some are attributable to user error there are far to many not to assign some fault to the program itself. Part of the problem, as you may know, is that there is a tremendous variety on the Windows side as to both hardware and software. A SS that works fine on your machine may not work on mine because in the background I am running MSDE and Hamachi and your not.

I would urge SD to either put resources into improving SS or write a small fast app for doing the basic displaying and playing. I would be willing to pay for such an app.

I also have issues when it comes to indexing music. I listen to a lot of classical. I have three versions of Mahlerís Second Symphony which is 2 discs each. There is no easy way I have found to keep this straight. (I am not blaming SS for this). In sum I think there is a lot to be improved upon. Most posts seem to think SD needs to upgrade the hardware, I think the need is much greater on the software side.

KW

ceejay
2006-04-03, 00:11
Clearly, the very forum we are communicating in is a testament to the number of problems that users have.


I'm sorry to hear you are having problems: I've been using slimserver for about a year now and I do recall it taking me a while to get it working the way I wanted, but it's been great ever since. And yes, I know that "it works for me" isn't the most helpful of replies, but I also think that the number of problems posted here doesn't indicate bad software ... the many thousands of people for whom it just works don't bother to post!

It may well be relevant that I don't try to use slimserver with iTunes... that kind of integration is inherently tricky and although I can see that a lot of work has gone into it, its a level of complexity too far for me, personally.

It might be worth checking http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?BeginnersGuideToiTunes for any relevant tips.



I would urge SD to either put resources into improving SS or write a small fast app for doing the basic displaying and playing. I would be willing to pay for such an app.


Have you tried Moose? Several threads in the forums on this. It may be just what you want. And its free!



I also have issues when it comes to indexing music. I listen to a lot of classical. I have three versions of Mahlerís Second Symphony which is 2 discs each. There is no easy way I have found to keep this straight. (I am not blaming SS for this).

Well, you are right that there is no *easy* way, but there certainly is a way. Some ideas are discussed in
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?BeginnersGuideToClassical
and also in many threads in the forums.

Hope it works out for you...

Ceejay

timmorris
2006-04-03, 02:46
I'll agree with you that the slimserver software isn't an out of the box solution - bear in mind that it isn't really a web based application but the easiest way to give all users on a network full control is to use a web front end.

It has taken me about a month to get it working as I want it (I use the BBC plug in, I'm about to use IR passthrough to control a scaler which won't fit on my equipment rack, and I'm going to edit remote control maps to add in a few commands that will make life easier). The latest excercise was adding a tag to all my albums so they are sorted by artists' family name and not first name. It does need a bit of tweaking, but once you get there it is awesome. My server is reasonably heavily loaded - it is only an XP3200 and has Exchange Server, all the Small Busines Server websites plus a couple of my own, MASSIVE users shared folders (two kids use it and they're always downloading crap, SQL server, IAS - I'm constantly getting warnings about processor utilisation being too high, but it still copes with Slimserver.

I've got no experience of ITunes (other than installing it on my nephew's PC, and he's not impressed with ITunes under windows). I'd suggest dumping it altogether and replacing it with EAC but that might be too big a step for you...

Have you tried just disabling the iTunes plug-in on the plug-ins page and just setting Slimserver up to scan your music folder? It does sub-folders by default, and if you have multiple folders all you have to do is create shortcusts and place them in the "main" folder. I know that isn't an ideal long term solution, but it might get you up and running in the short term. Fire off an email to tech support, it will take a few days but you never know they may come up with a really easy solution.

I do understand your frustration - I tried using a 6.2.2 nightly and music would just stop playing at random intervals, so I'm back to released software.

This community is a friendly one, and you'll find that a lot of the posts aren't bugs per-se but people trying to find a better way of doing something. It is EXTREMELY powerful, I've been watching this market for about 5 years since it was in the realm of the Home Automation hobbyist, but it wasn't until I'd spent a couple of weeks playing with Slimserver on my PC that I decided to buy a Squeezebox.

Stick with it, it might be frustrating but you'll get there.

Tim