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John Quirk
2003-11-13, 08:21
I agree with Primus Sucks, the web interface is very poorly lacking. And I'm not particularly in keeping right up to date with the forum every day, I want to look up the forum every now and then and see if there's anything I can help out with and anything I can learn. I'm not particularly interested in the ins and outs of various flavours of Linux and Perl, and I can't help with any Mac issues. With a web board I can skip these threads, with the email digest I can't.

An email subscription list looks antiquated, feels antiquated and reminds me of BBS systems and ftp browsing of the internet before the www arrived. Surely there must be a solution that provides a solution for both. the current web back end is hideous, and the search is a joke. What's the point of only being able to search one month, we just end up with the same questions being asked over and over again as new users give up on the search. 2/10.

JQ

Tim Long <Tim (AT) long-family (DOT) com> wrote:
You can please some of the people all of the time....
All of the people some of the time...

The point about getting the posts by email is that it puts power in the
hands of the user, where it belongs. You can use rules and/or filters to
sort, select, group and colour your email anywhichway you like. You have
no control over the web interface. I appreciate that everyone has
different tastes, but I can't help feeling that those who prefer the web
interface need to have an epiphany with their email software.

--Tim.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: primus sucks [mailto:mp3_madman (AT) yahoo (DOT) com]
> Sent: Wednesday 12 November 2003 23:57
> To: discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
> Subject: [slim] Sorry, but...
>
> ... you guys totally forgot those of use that DID NOT want to
> have to use the forums via an email client.
>
> There is no way, that I see, to search through the archives
> for certain key terms in the bodies of messages. Subject
> searches, yes(kinda via an IE search)... but not content.
> Hopefully there is a hack/add-on for this I don't know about
> or I overlooked something.
>
> Looks like it will archive into month sections... holy moly
> does that not work well. So when I am searching, I have to
> search over and over and over and over through each month
> section for one search (assuming no add-on).
>
> The web interface has craploads of wasted white space, though
> to be honest, this could be hacked.
>
> I cannot post unless I do it like now, via email...
> hopefully there is a hack/add-on for web posting.
>
> Honestly, I just won't use this as I find it more cumbersome
> to get craploads of email that I don't care about. I need a
> simple web interface that lets me get in and out in moments
> when looking for info...
>
> Sorry, but this is one legacy solution, and yes it is legacy,
> that I could care less for. Hope this is the beta version,
> and all the "good stuff" is coming soon.
>
> And as always... fear my case :-P
> http://www.geekmods.com/slimp3/images/front31.jpg
>
>
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Jack Coates
2003-11-13, 09:14
a) the web user interface is still being worked on -- a search engine is
in the works, GMANE connectivity is in the works, and anyway Google is
always there. Try adding site:lists.slimdevices.com to your search.
b) users ask the same questions over and over again anyway, whether
there's a web faq or not, whether there's a weekly "the faq's" posting
or not, whether you hunt them down and tattoo the answers on their
foreheads or not... it's the nature of the game.
c) a handful of people who prefer web forums have started their own
slimp3 forums and announced them. Use the handy search engine trick
listed in a) to find their sites and join them, or make yourself handful
+ 1, or in some other way make yourself happy.

"I couldn't guarantee that I wouldn't do wrong... Gotta see it's no good
leaving it up to me to make you happy."
-- Hanging By Strands from Homeless Where The Heart Is by Barbara
Manning and the Go-Luckys!


On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 07:21, John Quirk wrote:
> I agree with Primus Sucks, the web interface is very poorly lacking.
> And I'm not particularly in keeping right up to date with the forum
> every day, I want to look up the forum every now and then and see if
> there's anything I can help out with and anything I can learn. I'm not
> particularly interested in the ins and outs of various flavours of
> Linux and Perl, and I can't help with any Mac issues. With a web board
> I can skip these threads, with the email digest I can't.
>
> An email subscription list looks antiquated, feels antiquated and
> reminds me of BBS systems and ftp browsing of the internet before the
> www arrived. Surely there must be a solution that provides a solution
> for both. the current web back end is hideous, and the search is a
> joke. What's the point of only being able to search one month, we just
> end up with the same questions being asked over and over again as new
> users give up on the search. 2/10.
>
> JQ
>
> Tim Long <Tim (AT) long-family (DOT) com> wrote:
> You can please some of the people all of the time....
> All of the people some of the time...
>
> The point about getting the posts by email is that it puts
> power in the
> hands of the user, where it belongs. You can use rules and/or
> filters to
> sort, select, group and colour your email anywhichway you
> like. You have
> no control over the web interface. I appreciate that everyone
> has
> different tastes, but I can't help feeling that those who
> prefer the web
> interface need to have an epiphany with their email software.
>
> --Tim.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: primus sucks [mailto:mp3_madman (AT) yahoo (DOT) com]
> > Sent: Wednesday 12 November 2003 23:57
> > To: discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
> > Subject: [slim] Sorry, but...
> >
> > ... you guys totally forgot those of use that DID NOT want
> to
> > have to use the forums vi! a an email client.
> >
> > There is no way, that I see, to search through the archives
> > for certain key terms in the bodies of messages. Subject
> > searches, yes(kinda via an IE search)... but not content.
> > Hopefully there is a hack/add-on for this I don't know about
> > or I overlooked something.
> >
> > Looks like it will archive into month sections... holy moly
> > does that not work well. So when I am searching, I have to
> > search over and over and over and over through each month
> > section for one search (assuming no add-on).
> >
> > The web interface has craploads of wasted white space,
> though
> > to be honest, this could be hacked.
> >
> > I cannot post unless I do it like now, via email...
> > hopefully there is a hack/add-on for web posting.
> >
> > Honestly, I just won't use this as I find it more cumbersome
> > to get craploads of email that I don't care about. I n! eed
> a
> > simple web interface that lets me get in and out in moments
> > when looking for info...
> >
> > Sorry, but this is one legacy solution, and yes it is
> legacy,
> > that I could care less for. Hope this is the beta version,
> > and all the "good stuff" is coming soon.
> >
> > And as always... fear my case :-P
> > http://www.geekmods.com/slimp3/images/front31.jpg
> >
> >
> > __________________________________
> > Do you Yahoo!?
> > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard
> > http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree
> >