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ianjohnson_nz
2006-03-14, 16:39
Hi all

What I love about SB is the user interface and that I don't need my CDs to listen to music. So how do I get this in my car?


I think they'd be smarter to put a small (80Gb) hard disk and a slug in it and make it self-contained when taken out of wifi range. Good software that allowed you to say "let me take all my beach music to the beach" and then downloaded from the Terabyte store we all have ( :-) ) 80Gb of beach music and you're good to go.

Same guts, different case, could go in my car. Same idea. When parked in the garage, connects via wifi (doesn't everyone have a hot spot in their garage) and downloads the latest - songs, podcasts, etc.

Michael, that's exactly what I want. How cool would it be to arrive home, in-car SB automatically synchronises with home server via wireless.

Is there anything like this available? Someone posted a similar question recently, but there was no answer. I also remember seeing a post from someone a while back who had custom fitted a SB, presumably some sort of computer and a wireless AP in his car. That's a lot of kit. It must be possible to build a reasonable amplifier, CD player, wireless AP, radio and say 40GB hard disk into a standard size head unit?

Although this would be significantly different to the existing SB, I think it would be an excellent product. I'd definitely buy one :-) Any suggestions?

Regards, Ian

Edit: In hindsight my topic header sounds like I dream only of SB. Just want to clarify, this not my *only* dream.

fathom39
2006-03-14, 18:01
<I also remember seeing a post from someone a while back who had custom fitted a SB, presumably some sort of computer and a wireless AP in his car. That's a lot of kit.>


http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17638

bklaas
2006-03-14, 18:08
google these words:
rockford fosgate omnifi

slimdevices would do a much better job of it, but this product exists.

here's the amazon page for it-
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000ARG3OA/104-4590860-2964710?v=glance&n=172282

cheers,
#!/ben

ianjohnson_nz
2006-03-14, 20:02
google these words:
rockford fosgate omnifi

slimdevices would do a much better job of it, but this product exists.

here's the amazon page for it-
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000ARG3OA/104-4590860-2964710?v=glance&n=172282

cheers,
#!/ben
Thanks, that's cool. Reading through the info I agree, I think slimdevices would do a better job.

Regards, Ian

rkeeney
2006-03-14, 20:35
google these words:
rockford fosgate omnifi

Also check out the Kenwood PhatBox :
http://www.phatnoise.com/products/digitalmediaplayers/index.php

One appealling aspect is the support for FLAC and OGG files. Looks a little pricey but I would probably buy one if I had a new car to put it in.

Rob..........

azinck3
2006-03-14, 20:42
I've had the omnifi for a little over a year now and am fairly happy with the product overall. It's nowhere near as polished or functional as the Squeezebox, but it can be had for cheap and there's an amazing group of hackers adding tons of great functionality. Check out openfi.sourceforge.net

EnochLight
2006-03-14, 20:53
My solution to this - for now anyway - is to use my 6o GB iPod with a head unit in my car that actually docks with it, so the menu/interface is controllable through the head unit. I have an Alpine for that - works like a dream. Sure, no FLAC but... *shrugs*

Frankly, I think my setup is ideal because it's widely supported and the iPod's hard drives are likely to get larger over time (so if I want more available, I can do so as a newer iPod comes out).

For Slim Devices to penetrate this market would be *VERY* difficult IMHO. It's already saturated and Apple/iPod are the platform of choice pretty much...

Just my 2 cents.

pfarrell
2006-03-14, 20:57
ianjohnson_nz wrote:
> Thanks, that's cool. Reading through the info I agree, I think
> slimdevices would do a better job.

Someone already hacked a SB into his dash.
Seems like a system unit like this under the seat
is the ticket. "VoomPC Vehicle PC Enclosure"
http://www.mini-itx.com/store/?c=3#p1153


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Peter van der Landen
2006-03-16, 07:11
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:53:12 -0800, "EnochLight"
<EnochLight.24ozxn1142394901 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com> said:
>
> My solution to this - for now anyway - is to use my 6o GB iPod with a
> head unit in my car that actually docks with it, so the menu/interface
> is controllable through the head unit. I have an Alpine for that -
> works like a dream. Sure, no FLAC but... *shrugs*
>
> Frankly, I think my setup is ideal because it's widely supported and
> the iPod's hard drives are likely to get larger over time (so if I want
> more available, I can do so as a newer iPod comes out).

I have a similar solution. It's workable, but far from ideal. MP3
players like the iPod are expensive because the miniature harddisks and
electronics are expensive. There's no need for car electronics to be
this small.

My ideal solution would be a car radio interface that directly attaches
to a commodity (3.5"?) external USB drive (and powers it as well). The
car radio interface is used to browse the files and play them. If you
want to update the files, take the drive out and sync it with iTunes
over USB.

This way your portable iPod remains portable. Your car has integrated
audio: if you loan it to someone they can enjoy your music. You don't
suffer as much if your $80 80GB portable drive gets stolen by a junkie.

> For Slim Devices to penetrate this market would be *VERY* difficult
> IMHO. It's already saturated and Apple/iPod are the platform of choice
> pretty much...

Well, a small electronics device that links a commodity USB drive to a
car radio via a changer (or iPod) interface would be a damn useful
product. I'd buy one.

I've used my 40GB iRiver H140 in my cars for years and all I've really
used are two control functions: Next/Prev track and shuffle on/off.
Anything else takes too much attention while you're driving anyway. Oh,
yes, automatic power off - power on/resume would be great too.

> Just my 2 cents.

And mine... ;)

Peter.

blkwrx
2006-03-21, 18:13
I'm trying to copy LavaJoe's idea (the SB in car). I've collected all the parts (CarPC, SB2 & USB Drive for the OS). I'm having some issues with the OS. I want to use Linux for load time but I know next to nothing about it. I've been trying to get the SlimCD software to boot off my USB Drive with no success. Anyone with linux knowledge know if there is a stripped down version of linux that would be good for this application? I am just using the OS to run the SlimServer software.
Thanks

chrisla
2006-03-21, 19:09
I quite like http://damnsmalllinux.org/ and have used it in several
embedded applications.

I think SlimCD is either a branch off of it, or off of Knoppix
directly, so many of the components may be directly re-usable once you
have the OS going. You may want to consider CF on an CF to IDE adapter
for the boot drive instead. It is more straightforward b/c the OS
thinks it is talking to a drive even at the bios level, and does not
have any vibration problems.

-Chris

On 3/21/06, blkwrx <blkwrx.251r6z1142990101 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com> wrote:
>
> I'm trying to copy LavaJoe's idea (the SB in car). I've collected all
> the parts (CarPC, SB2 & USB Drive for the OS). I'm having some issues
> with the OS. I want to use Linux for load time but I know next to
> nothing about it. I've been trying to get the SlimCD software to boot
> off my USB Drive with no success. Anyone with linux knowledge know if
> there is a stripped down version of linux that would be good for this
> application? I am just using the OS to run the SlimServer software.
> Thanks
>
>
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blkwrx
2006-03-21, 20:25
It is based off DSL. I had it installed on a CD before but for some reason now I can't get it to install to a CD either. I must be doing something wrong. I want to try to keep the Linux OS as small as possible. Even SlimCD has more than I need to run. I will not need a GUI but since I have no knowledge of linux I have a lot of learning to do. I found something called Linux from Scratch which I am looking into. Any help or direction would be appreciated.
Thanks

blkwrx
2006-03-21, 21:13
Yeah, I know its its own OS. It actually is a modified DSL. Its not a Bios issue. I can boot regular DSL from the USB Drive fine. Whereas I can not get SlimCD to even boot off a CD. It must be the way I am burning the ISO image. I will try to figure it out tomorrow.

mherger
2006-03-22, 00:42
> nothing about it. I've been trying to get the SlimCD software to boot
> off my USB Drive with no success.

Please give us some more information: What did you try? What failed? Did
you get any error message? What's your system setup?

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mherger
2006-03-22, 00:44
> I quite like http://damnsmalllinux.org/ and have used it in several
> embedded applications.
>
> I think SlimCD is either a branch off of it,

It's DSL -some "heavy" applications +perl +slimserver

> You may want to consider CF on an CF to IDE adapter
> for the boot drive instead.

That's my setup. And use the "frugal" install as flash memory should not
be written to too often. frugal will basically copy the CD image to your
flash medium, run everything in RAM and at the end of the day (or when you
tell it to do so) backup to the flash. In between there's no write access.

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mherger
2006-03-22, 00:46
> Even SlimCD has more than I need to run. I will not need a
> GUI but since I have no knowledge of linux I have a lot of learning to
> do.

The one package that would free considerable memory is Java. If you don't
need softsqueeze, you could free about 30MB by removing Java. But then:
100MB isn't something that wouldn't fit on the cheapest memory sticks...

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mherger
2006-03-22, 00:48
> I can boot regular DSL from the USB Drive fine. Whereas I

What DSL and SlimCD versions are you using? I think there were some
compatibility issues in that part.

> can not get SlimCD to even boot off a CD.

Please check the image integrity. There's an md5 checksum available from
my site.

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blkwrx
2006-03-22, 06:24
The DSL version I used is made to boot from a UDB drive. I downloaded the latest version of SlimCD off your site but for some reason can not get it to image a CD properly. Like I said I must be doing something wrong. I was using syslinux to boot from the USB Drive. I am going to try Lilo today and see if that works better.

I was using Nero to try and burn the SlimCD ISO to disk. It worked before but its not now. There must be a setting I am missing. I think if I could get it to work from a CD I could transfer it to the UDB Drive. Like I said before I had a working CD at one point but I lost it.
Thanks

blkwrx
2006-03-22, 13:05
Well, I think I am going to try to run a dumbed down version of windows on a CF card. I just can't get my head wrapped around linux and I am going to be starting MCSE classes in a week so I don't want to get too involved with a whole different OS right now.

BTW, I did get SlimCD to boot off a CD again.