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deepblu
2006-03-11, 20:13
ok...I know you guys think you are the end all of audio forums.
I can tell just by the way you conduct your ever so serious intercourse.
Bull!
Is there no room for light banter here?
I do not think so.
Not unless your in the audio-snob clique, with all the esoteric gear and ever so psuedo-scientific theorum.
Once you prove your audio-snob-ness anything goes I guess.
The bottom dwellers who are low on the audio-snob food chain who would like to contribute and learn must somehow prove worthiness.
Screw that.
Here's one thread killer who won't be back.

crapulent
2006-03-11, 20:35
ouch, will you be missed? I like my Slimserver etc..


On 3/11/06, deepblu <deepblu.24je2z1142133301 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com>
wrote:
>
>
> ok...I know you guys think you are the end all of audio forums.
> I can tell just by the way you conduct your ever so serious
> intercourse.
> Bull!
> Is there no room for light banter here?
> I do not think so.
> Not unless your in the audio-snob clique, with all the esoteric gear
> and ever so psuedo-scientific theorum.
> Once you prove your audio-snob-ness anything goes I guess.
> The bottom dwellers who are low on the audio-snob food chain who would
> like to contribute and learn must somehow prove worthiness.
> Screw that.
> Here's one thread killer who won't be back.
>
>
> --
> deepblu
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> deepblu's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3456
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snarlydwarf
2006-03-11, 20:38
Um, even amongst the so-called audio-snobs, there is plenty of disagreement (as I mentioned earlier this week: which is better, coax or fiber? is a $100 speaker cable better than Home Depot zip cord?).

Relax, you have substantially "better" equipment than I do, and no one has chased me out of here.

It's all about the music: if you can hear a difference, good for you. If you can't, you can save a small fortune on equipment and buy more cd's.

(I won't even get into the abstract stuff: if recordings are mastered to sound 'right' on standard home equipment with non-flat response... wouldn't you want a non-flat system so that you could match what the engineer wanted you to hear?)

Ie, if most home systems have a dropoff at 16khz, and yours doesn't... won't that be the same as having a peak at 16khz?

What sounds 'better' is entirely subjective and it may not match what the engineer of the recording had in mind, but they don't shipping 8 or 16 track master recordings out so that we can mix them ourselves.

crapulent
2006-03-11, 20:50
I shouldn't talk, my Slimdevice is out of service and out of warranty.

On 3/11/06, snarlydwarf <
snarlydwarf.24jf8n1142134801 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com> wrote:
>
>
> Um, even amongst the so-called audio-snobs, there is plenty of
> disagreement (as I mentioned earlier this week: which is better, coax
> or fiber? is a $100 speaker cable better than Home Depot zip cord?).
>
> Relax, you have substantially "better" equipment than I do, and no one
> has chased me out of here.
>
> It's all about the music: if you can hear a difference, good for you.
> If you can't, you can save a small fortune on equipment and buy more
> cd's.
>
> (I won't even get into the abstract stuff: if recordings are mastered
> to sound 'right' on standard home equipment with non-flat response...
> wouldn't you want a non-flat system so that you could match what the
> engineer wanted you to hear?)
>
> Ie, if most home systems have a dropoff at 16khz, and yours doesn't...
> won't that be the same as having a peak at 16khz?
>
> What sounds 'better' is entirely subjective and it may not match what
> the engineer of the recording had in mind, but they don't shipping 8 or
> 16 track master recordings out so that we can mix them ourselves.
>
>
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tyler_durden
2006-03-11, 21:01
ok...I know you guys think you are the end all of audio forums.
I can tell just by the way you conduct your ever so serious intercourse.
Bull!
Is there no room for light banter here?
I do not think so.
Not unless your in the audio-snob clique, with all the esoteric gear and ever so psuedo-scientific theorum.
Once you prove your audio-snob-ness anything goes I guess.
The bottom dwellers who are low on the audio-snob food chain who would like to contribute and learn must somehow prove worthiness.
Screw that.
Here's one thread killer who won't be back.


Don't go! We're not all nuts here!

TD

crapulent
2006-03-11, 21:08
Are you calling me nuts? Just because I pump argon into my homemade audio
cables?

On 3/11/06, tyler_durden <
tyler_durden.24jgeb1142136301 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com> wrote:
>
>
> deepblu Wrote:
> > ok...I know you guys think you are the end all of audio forums.
> > I can tell just by the way you conduct your ever so serious
> > intercourse.
> > Bull!
> > Is there no room for light banter here?
> > I do not think so.
> > Not unless your in the audio-snob clique, with all the esoteric gear
> > and ever so psuedo-scientific theorum.
> > Once you prove your audio-snob-ness anything goes I guess.
> > The bottom dwellers who are low on the audio-snob food chain who would
> > like to contribute and learn must somehow prove worthiness.
> > Screw that.
> > Here's one thread killer who won't be back.
>
>
> Don't go! We're not all nuts here!
>
> TD
>
>
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Skunk
2006-03-11, 21:23
The bottom dwellers who are low on the audio-snob food chain

<raises hand> Don't sweat it deepblu, I obviously don't care that people think I'm an idiot. At least you still have credibility ;-)

Kevin O. Lepard
2006-03-11, 21:40
Look! A troll in it's native habitat! ;-)

Kevin
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Happiness is being 100% Microsoft free.

notanatheist
2006-03-11, 21:59
A troll's native habitat is actually Slashdot. As for audiophiles, everyone has their thing. It's like people asking me what kind of computer I would buy. Like asking a Euro cyclist if they like Shimano. Like.... well, you get it. To each their own. So stick around and help out or ask your questions under General, Beginners, or another thread not labled "Audiophiles". Hell, I don't go there because I don't care for elistist snobs either.

snarlydwarf
2006-03-11, 22:07
I go there to giggle, actually.

crapulent
2006-03-11, 22:37
Let's snob it up, start recommending cognac, or makers of smoking jackets....


On 3/11/06, snarlydwarf <
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> I go there to giggle, actually.
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NWP
2006-03-11, 23:02
I'm a computer guy. I don't know crap about audio components.

Skunk
2006-03-11, 23:04
I don't know crap about audio components.


Crapulent could probably teach you a thing or two, not that there's anything wrong with not knowing...

crapulent
2006-03-11, 23:13
Go for the gold plated, and if the cables have gas in them, ok!

As for componets, I like the bose line.

On 3/11/06, Skunk <Skunk.24jlyb1142143501 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com>
wrote:
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>
> NWP Wrote:
> > I don't know crap about audio components.
>
>
> Crapulent could probably teach you a thing or two, not that there's
> anything wrong with not knowing...
>
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Skunk
2006-03-11, 23:24
I can tell just by the way you conduct your ever so serious intercourse.
Bull!
Is there no room for light banter here?

It's a slippery slope into sheer idiocy, basically.


Go for the gold plated, and if the cables have gas in them, ok!

As for componets, I like the bose line.

NWP
2006-03-11, 23:26
Go for the gold plated, and if the cables have gas in them, ok!

As for componets, I like the bose line.



You have a particular recommendation for amp/speaker combos so I can put squeezeboxes in rooms that don't already have stereo components? I'd prefer something with a small form factor - even better if the amp is small enough to hide so it looks like it's just the squeezebox + speakers.


edit: wait a second... did I miss sarcasm in skunk's post?

crapulent
2006-03-11, 23:29
I hate to admit I did make my own component video cable, just because.

On 3/11/06, Skunk <Skunk.24jmvn1142144701 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com>
wrote:
>
>
> deepblu Wrote:
> > I can tell just by the way you conduct your ever so serious
> > intercourse.
> > Bull!
> > Is there no room for light banter here?
>
> It's a slippery slope into sheer idiocy, basically.
>
> crapulent Wrote:
> > Go for the gold plated, and if the cables have gas in them, ok!
> >
> > As for componets, I like the bose line.
>
>
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Skunk
2006-03-11, 23:30
edit: wait a second... did I miss sarcasm in skunk's post?

Yeah crapulent was just being silly. Maybe you need some powered monitors, or a multimedia set of speakers with a powered subwoofer. I think there are some threads in the 'dare i say' audiophile forums :)

Edit: Then again, here's an even better thread in 'general discussion': http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=10597&highlight=powered+monitors

crapulent
2006-03-11, 23:39
for that application I'd recommend industrial loud speakers mounted on a
pole focused towards the rooms that have guests who'd like some music. Just
an idea.

On 3/11/06, NWP <NWP.24jn411142145003 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com> wrote:
>
>
> crapulent Wrote:
> > Go for the gold plated, and if the cables have gas in them, ok!
> >
> > As for componets, I like the bose line.
> >
> >
>
> You have a particular recommendation for amp/speaker combos so I can
> put squeezeboxes in rooms that don't already have stereo components?
> I'd prefer something with a small form factor - even better if the amp
> is small enough to hide so it looks like it's just the squeezebox +
> speakers.
>
>
> edit: wait a second... did I miss sarcasm in skunk's post?
>
>
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snarlydwarf
2006-03-11, 23:43
for that application I'd recommend industrial loud speakers mounted on a
pole focused towards the rooms that have guests who'd like some music. Just
an idea.


Like the stuff the military uses for 'psychological warfare'?

The neighbors might complain a bit.

crapulent
2006-03-11, 23:47
We are fighting boredom. Neighbors be damned!

On 3/11/06, snarlydwarf <
snarlydwarf.24jnsz1142145901 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com> wrote:
>
>
> crapulent Wrote:
> > for that application I'd recommend industrial loud speakers mounted on
> > a
> > pole focused towards the rooms that have guests who'd like some music.
> > Just
> > an idea.
> >
>
> Like the stuff the military uses for 'psychological warfare'?
>
> The neighbors might complain a bit.
>
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jonheal
2006-03-12, 05:19
Go for the gold plated, and if the cables have gas in them, ok!

As for componets, I like the bose line.

On 3/11/06, Skunk <Skunk.24jlyb1142143501 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com>
wrote:
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>
> NWP Wrote:
> > I don't know crap about audio components.
>
>
> Crapulent could probably teach you a thing or two, not that there's
> anything wrong with not knowing...
>
>
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My bowels have gas in them. Does that count?

Kevin O. Lepard
2006-03-12, 11:13
>A troll's native habitat is actually Slashdot.

Trolls predate Slashdot by years. They started on mailing lists,
ages ago, moved into news groups, and have since populated slashdot
as well as other locations.

Audiophiles are very passionate about their sound and as a rule very
opinionated about it, too. They as a group are concerned about
issues that simply don't matter to me and my inferior ears. *shrug*
To each one's own.

Kevin
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Happiness is being 100% Microsoft free.

Skunk
2006-03-12, 12:28
Audiophiles are very passionate about their sound and as a rule very opinionated about it, too. They as a group are concerned about issues that simply don't matter to me and my inferior ears. *shrug* To each one's own.
Kevin
--
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Happiness is being 100% Microsoft free.

The same might be said of Linux Geeks as audiophiles. <nudge, nudge>

snarlydwarf
2006-03-12, 12:39
Except Linux geeks are right. :P

Skunk
2006-03-12, 12:45
Except Linux geeks are right. :P

'till it's time to rip and encode a disc?

pfarrell
2006-03-12, 12:48
snarlydwarf wrote:
> Except Linux geeks are right. :P

And smarter, more talented, and better looking
:-)

I fail to see how this thread is anything other than
a troll and the expected responses. To which
the only proper response is "Do not feed the trolls"

--
Pat
http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html

snarlydwarf
2006-03-12, 12:55
'till it's time to rip and encode a disc?

Hrrm? Put CD in drive, type 'abcde'.

'tis all I do. :)

(Well, then I go try to find a good copy of album art, but that can get tricky on some of my albums.)

snarlydwarf
2006-03-12, 12:56
I fail to see how this thread is anything other than
a troll and the expected responses. To which
the only proper response is "Do not feed the trolls"


Well, I don't think he's being fed, since 99% of the thread seems to be good humored.

Was there an OP on this thread?

Skunk
2006-03-12, 13:06
'tis all I do. :)


Thanks for the good natured response. After saying it I suffered a trollish identity crisis. I don't know crap about Linux.

Skunk
2006-03-12, 13:18
Was there an OP on this thread?

According to deepblu we should adjust our member count. Who called him a thread killer?

jonheal
2006-03-12, 14:47
snarlydwarf wrote:
> Except Linux geeks are right. :P

And smarter, more talented, and better looking
:-)

I fail to see how this thread is anything other than
a troll and the expected responses. To which
the only proper response is "Do not feed the trolls"

--
Pat
http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html
That whole accusing someone of being a "troll" thing generally bugs me and smacks of arrogance and elitism.

The guy's a paying customer, so cut him some friggen slack!

Kevin O. Lepard
2006-03-12, 15:17
>That whole accusing someone of being a "troll" thing generally bugs me
>and smacks of arrogance and elitism.
>
>The guy's a paying customer, so cut him some friggen slack!

He posted a rant in a new thread. Pretty much a classic troll.

Kevin
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kdf
2006-03-12, 15:17
On 12-Mar-06, at 1:47 PM, jonheal wrote:

>
> The guy's a paying customer!
>
who isnt?

-k

Kevin O. Lepard
2006-03-12, 15:18
>The same might be said of Linux Geeks as audiophiles. <nudge, nudge>

I'm pretty sure that would make them a "Best of Breed" audiophile. ;-)

Kevin
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Happiness is being 100% Microsoft free.

Skunk
2006-03-12, 15:38
>I'm pretty sure that would make them a "Best of Breed" audiophile.

I'm sure Christopher Guest would be interested in this sect.

jonheal
2006-03-12, 15:39
On 12-Mar-06, at 1:47 PM, jonheal wrote:

>
> The guy's a paying customer!
>
who isnt?

-k
My point was that you don't have to own a squeezebox to post on these boards, but the fact that you plunked down $300 should earn you a few good graces. But whatever, I wish I hadn't gotten involved.

I'm personally a little sensitive about the "troll" thing from participating on some Macintosh forums where I was regularly roasted alive for failing to acknowledge Steve Jobs as being Jesus Christ himself stepped down from the cross.

Some of those Mac people are RABID! And yes, I do own a Macintosh, in case some of my fellow SqueezeBox/Mac homies are lookin' to stick a shiv in me.

kdf
2006-03-12, 15:55
On 12-Mar-06, at 2:39 PM, jonheal wrote:

>>
> My point was that you don't have to own a squeezebox to post on these
> boards, but the fact that you plunked down $300 should earn you a few
> good graces. But whatever, I wish I hadn't gotten involved.
>
Thing is, everyone involved in this forum paid $300 for hardware at
some point or another.
Paying money doesn't mean you then have the right to be abusive,
without expecting something back (and they've been rather jovial).

However, were SD interested, I'm sure that could be quite the revenue
stream ($5 for the odd 4-letter word), $100 for an all-out
no-holds-barred rant.

-k

stinkingpig
2006-03-12, 20:10
Skunk wrote:
> snarlydwarf Wrote:
>
>> Except Linux geeks are right. :P
>>
>
> 'till it's time to rip and encode a disc?
>
>
>
Linux does that very well. It's putting the sound out through the
speakers that it has issues with :)

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Riding the Emergency Third Rail Power Trip Since 1996

Skunk
2006-03-12, 21:16
Like the stuff the military uses for 'psychological warfare'?


I think he meant something more like these:
http://homepage.mac.com/tlinespeakers/TLS/projects/davidduke/images/seriphim-singleC.jpg

notanatheist
2006-03-12, 23:28
<begin Troll>
Roku owners
<end Troll>


On 12-Mar-06, at 1:47 PM, jonheal wrote:

>
> The guy's a paying customer!
>
who isnt?

-k

haunyack
2007-02-26, 00:13
ok...I know you guys think you are the end all of audio forums.
I can tell just by the way you conduct your ever so serious intercourse.
Bull!
Is there no room for light banter here?
I do not think so.
Not unless your in the audio-snob clique, with all the esoteric gear and ever so psuedo-scientific theorum.
Once you prove your audio-snob-ness anything goes I guess.
The bottom dwellers who are low on the audio-snob food chain who would like to contribute and learn must somehow prove worthiness.
Screw that.
Here's one thread killer who won't be back.

Is it not too late to reconsider your view?
Where's the love of music here anyway?

probedb
2007-02-27, 09:29
Hmm and this thread was nearly a year old no need to resurrect it.

haunyack
2007-02-27, 10:39
Hmm and this thread was nearly a year old no need to resurrect it.

Old post's are off limits now?

regalma1
2007-02-28, 09:35
[QUOTE=Jonathan Miller;93822]Are you calling me nuts? Just because I pump argon into my homemade audio
cables?

Argon? Don't you know that Argon supports electrical arcing. Sure it has to be thousands of volts to see it, but micro-nano-arcing that can't even be measured or proved to exist will cause grainess in your sound and probably lead to brain tumors in your cat.

You need vacuum "filled" cables. I know a company that will sell you a pair of interconnects for only $14K each. No joke this.

kphinney
2007-03-01, 11:08
...
Not unless your in the audio-snob clique, with all the esoteric gear and ever so psuedo-scientific theorum.
Once you prove your audio-snob-ness anything goes I guess.
....

That seems pretty harsh. I bought my SB last week. I've had a few issues and some questions. I've received a lot of assistance and guidance. I'm not looking to reinvent the wheel and these forums have helped me learn for the trials of those who have been there.
Consider yourself lucky to be able to interact with others who own the same product you do. Try that with whatever vehicle you own.

<b> My thanks to all those who are here to assist, teach, and discuss. </b>

325xi
2007-03-01, 22:20
So, did someone mentioned that $13,500 battery powered active antivibration platform designed exclusively for Squeezebox?

Skunk
2007-03-01, 22:25
Consider yourself lucky to be able to interact with others who own the same product you do. Try that with whatever vehicle you own.


I suppose it depends on what you mean by interact*, but the F150 online forum I visit makes this place seem like a deserted island.

*Most of the communication done there is via pictures and smilies, unfortunately :-)

ModelCitizen
2007-03-02, 00:17
Consider yourself lucky to be able to interact with others who own the same product you do. Try that with whatever vehicle you own.
http://www.tt-forum.co.uk

Don't all cars have forums then?
MC

probedb
2007-03-02, 04:16
Old post's are off limits now?

Never said that but being as the original poster basically was slagging people off then I just thought it odd to raise it back when the original poster probably no longer even posts.

That's all.