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Paul Fox
2006-02-20, 16:46
hi -- i'm a little new with slimserver, so please forgive me if
there's an obvious way to do what i need -- just point me in the
right direction.

there are tracks in my collection that i (almost) never want to
hear. these might be voice-only intro segments on live concert
recordings, or alternate takes that are repetitious, or simply
tracks which i really do not like very much.

is there a way to tell slimserver never to select these tracks
unless told explicitly to play them? i.e., if i select by genre,
or artist, or even by the album in which they're contained, i do
_not_ want those tracks to be played. they should play only if i
browse to the track level and select them.

any ideas? (in a previous home-grown audio system i've used, i
had "<trackname>.skip" flag files which told the s/w not to
include "trackname" in the current playlist. i'm hoping for
something similar.)

paul
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paul fox, pgf (AT) foxharp (DOT) boston.ma.us (arlington, ma, where it's 24.6 degrees)

Fred
2006-02-20, 17:44
I don't think there is such a function.

Two workarounds:

- Move the tracks to another genre/album (f.e. rock_extra). Ugly but works.

- Use iTunes and use the checkbox. Slimserver can be configured to ignore unchecked songs. You cannot play the songs any longer (from the Squeezebox), but they would be in your "music collection" on iTunes.

One proper solution:

- Develop the feature for Slimserver, become a developer. If this is not an option, then I suggest adding an enhancement request to bugs.slimdevices.com.

Fred

Paul Fox
2006-02-20, 18:30
> Two workarounds:
>
> - Move the tracks to another genre/album (f.e. rock_extra).
> Ugly but works.

wouldn't "random playback of 'genre rock'" still pick them up?
but i understand what you mean in principle.

> - Use iTunes and use the checkbox. Slimserver can be
> configured to ignore unchecked songs. You cannot play the
> songs any longer (from the Squeezebox), but they would be in
> your "music collection" on iTunes.

interesting. i'm not an itunes user currently, so i probably
won't do this.

>
> One proper solution:
>
> - Develop the feature for Slimserver, become a developer. If

:-) well, i'm certainly game to take a look, though my perl is slim to
nonexistent. (pun noted but not intended. :-)

> this is not an option, then I suggest adding an enhancement
> request to bugs.slimdevices.com.

this i can certainly do. it certainly seems like i might not be the
first to want/need something like this.

thanks...

one more question: does slimserver do more than simply look at
file suffix to determin file type when scanning? if i rename the
tracks in question to "<trackname>.mp3.skip", will they be
ignored? i realize that this will probably prevent their being
played at all, but currently, that would be the better
alternative (for me)...

paul
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paul fox, pgf (AT) foxharp (DOT) boston.ma.us (arlington, ma, where it's 23.7 degrees)

Mark Lanctot
2006-02-21, 12:00
one more question: does slimserver do more than simply look at
file suffix to determin file type when scanning? if i rename the
tracks in question to "<trackname>.mp3.skip", will they be
ignored? i realize that this will probably prevent their being
played at all, but currently, that would be the better
alternative (for me)...


That would be an interesting experiment, and easy to try out. Keep in mind it may not work with the rescan option "Look for new and changed music", you may have to "Clear library and rescan everything".

Here's what I do for songs that I don't want in SlimServer permanently - for example, Christmas songs. I put them in their own folder. If they're sitting in SlimServer's music folder, they get included in rescans. When I want to remove them, I just move the folder somewhere else. On the next rescan, they are all gone. I find it pretty easy, and it's easier than renaming every extension.

joncourage
2006-02-21, 12:05
Hey, I think that's a possible answer to my previous post as well! Thanks.

Makes perfect sense, why didn't I think of that... doh! I already do that for the MP3s I use for portable devices.

fuzzyT
2006-02-21, 12:22
Mark Lanctot wrote:

> When I want to remove them, I just move the folder somewhere else. On
> the next rescan, they are all gone. I find it pretty easy, and it's
> easier than renaming every extension.

Easier yet, just leave all these files in their directory outside of the
SlimServer music folder. Add and remove a shortcut/alias/symlink to
that directory from the SlimServer music folder.

Mark Lanctot
2006-02-21, 15:49
Mark Lanctot wrote:

> When I want to remove them, I just move the folder somewhere else. On
> the next rescan, they are all gone. I find it pretty easy, and it's
> easier than renaming every extension.

Easier yet, just leave all these files in their directory outside of the
SlimServer music folder. Add and remove a shortcut/alias/symlink to
that directory from the SlimServer music folder.

Aha! The icing on the cake! Perfect!

Thanks.

joncourage
2006-02-21, 17:00
Indeed. Well done.

random_tox
2006-02-21, 17:27
This was one feature I miss from my old Sony CD jukeboxes. There are a few easy work-arounds, but I hope for a better solution from Slim in the future.

My work-around: I assign an additional genre, "this song sucks", to the tracks I never want to hear. (To set up multiple genres you have to set a delimiter in 'Server Settings, Behavior, Multiple Items In Tags'.) Then when I'm set up a playlist in the web interface, I subtract all songs from the "this song sucks" genre. Not all Slimserver 'Skins' support subtraction. I use 'fishbone'.

Mark Lanctot
2006-02-21, 17:35
This was one feature I miss from my old Sony CD jukeboxes. There are a few easy work-arounds, but I hope for a better solution from Slim in the future.

My work-around: I assign an additional genre, "this song sucks", to the tracks I never want to hear. (To set up multiple genres you have to set a delimiter in 'Server Settings, Behavior, Multiple Items In Tags'.) Then when I'm set up a playlist in the web interface, I subtract all songs from the "this song sucks" genre. Not all Slimserver 'Skins' support subtraction. I use 'fishbone'.

You could use the Zapped Songs playlist function. Just press ADD on the remote when you're in Now Playing mode. Automatically writes a Zapped Songs playlist so you can do...whatever...to those songs later. You can either delete them or alter their genre tags.