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JJZolx
2006-02-16, 16:07
Pretty trivial stuff, but probably not for bugzilla

- First, some white space is needed below/above each entry, so the cover art isn't touching the text above.

- I think it looks better by centering text and controls below each cover. When doing this the Album, Artist and Year should be broken onto separate lines. Yes, they will often wrap.

- Use a different link style for each of Album, Artist, and Year links. Optionally, you could link those to the album page (the current link), the browse artist page, and the browse year page, respectively.

- Get rid of the word "by" preceding the artist name. With different link styles, the artist name can be better differentiated visually.

- Add a "Play Next" link, ala Fishbone.

kdf
2006-02-16, 22:43
On 16-Feb-06, at 3:07 PM, JJZolx wrote:
>
> - First, some white space is needed below/above each entry, so the
> cover art isn't touching the text above.
>
done

> - I think it looks better by centering text and controls below each
> cover. When doing this the Album, Artist and Year should be broken
> onto separate lines. Yes, they will often wrap.
>
sorta done. still all one line, wrapped, but its centred. not sure I
like forcing new lines for each, so since I'm the one making the
changes, I haven't forced new lines. I'll leave it for someone else,
if they want to.

> - Use a different link style for each of Album, Artist, and Year links.
> Optionally, you could link those to the album page (the current link),
> the browse artist page, and the browse year page, respectively.
>
separate links, done. too many options for "different style". that
call is for someone else.
>
> - Add a "Play Next" link, ala Fishbone.
>
this has come up many times, and yet I have no memory of seeing anyone
give the all clear for making that change in the design of the Default
skin. I guess the purpose is to have very little clutter, only the
basic controls. if I hear differently, it is just a change to the
controls sections of the cmdwrappers.

-k

JJZolx
2006-02-16, 22:51
I'd also like to suggest that it would be an improvement to make the frameset of the Default skin resizable between the browse and playlist panes. I think you'll see a lot more use of Browse Artwork with the better sorting ability and presentation in 6.5. Then a user can control the number album covers appearing per row in the browse pane. It's helpful elsewhere as well, like being able to increase the width of the playlist window to more easily read items in the playlist.

kdf
2006-02-17, 13:21
Quoting JJZolx <JJZolx.23czxb (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com>:

>
> I'd also like to suggest that it would be an improvement to make the
> frameset of the Default skin resizable between the browse and playlist
> panes.

In my attempts to do this in the past, there seemed to be no way of
avoiding a vertical black line where the border is, due to the 3D
effects put on even a single pixel white border. It is a bit too
harsh looking given the blended panes existing now. Given a solution
for that, I would be more inclined to argue on the side of adding one.

-kdf

MrC
2006-02-17, 14:20
Quoting JJZolx <JJZolx.23czxb (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com>:

>
> I'd also like to suggest that it would be an improvement to make the
> frameset of the Default skin resizable between the browse and playlist
> panes.

In my attempts to do this in the past, there seemed to be no way of
avoiding a vertical black line where the border is, due to the 3D
effects put on even a single pixel white border. It is a bit too
harsh looking given the blended panes existing now. Given a solution
for that, I would be more inclined to argue on the side of adding one.

Have you tried the nonstandard:

framespacing="0" frameborder="0" border="0"

in your frameset? I use it (plus noresize="noresize") on a site I have and there's no line. The problem is that you can't easily see from where to drag.

kdf
2006-02-17, 15:01
Quoting MrC <MrC.23e6zb (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com>:


> Have you tried the nonstandard:
>
> framespacing="0" frameborder="0" border="0"
>
> in your frameset? I use it (plus noresize="noresize") on a site I have
> and there's no line. The problem is that you can't easily see from
> where to drag.

I tried it, and never quite found any point where it allowed the drag.
As such, I never quite trusted that it would work at all.
-k

JJZolx
2006-02-17, 17:22
Quoting JJZolx <JJZolx.23czxb (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com>:

> I'd also like to suggest that it would be an improvement to make the
> frameset of the Default skin resizable between the browse and playlist
> panes.

In my attempts to do this in the past, there seemed to be no way of
avoiding a vertical black line where the border is, due to the 3D
effects put on even a single pixel white border. It is a bit too
harsh looking given the blended panes existing now. Given a solution
for that, I would be more inclined to argue on the side of adding one.
I guess I don't see anything harsh about this look. The Default skin is essentially black & white, so a black line separating the two frames seems perfectly natural to me. I get a vertical scroll bar in this frame on most pages anyway, even the home page when viewed in anything less than a 1024 pixel tall window. With a frameset that is resizable you want a visible border - it wouldn't make much sense to make it invisible.

I guess it comes down to a matter of usability vs. aesthetics.

JJZolx
2006-02-17, 19:26
Another Browse Artwork observation: Is anyone aware that the new "cover.png" image for missing artwork isn't transparent in IE6? I believe there are workarounds, either using JavaScript and CSS or by manipulating the PNG palette. But why not just use a gif?

kdf
2006-02-17, 20:05
On 17-Feb-06, at 6:26 PM, JJZolx wrote:

>
> Another Browse Artwork observation: Is anyone aware that the new
> "cover.png" image for missing artwork isn't transparent in IE6? I
> believe there are workarounds, either using JavaScript and CSS or by
> manipulating the PNG palette. But why not just use a gif?
>
Dean added it. Dean will have to answer that.

as for why it fails to show transparent: IE can't handle an alpha blend.

-kdf

dean
2006-02-20, 22:16
You know, I never did like that image anyway. The question mark
makes it look broken. How about we leave an empty rectangular space
in its place? If you have no artwork image, well then nothing will
appear.


On Feb 17, 2006, at 7:05 PM, kdf wrote:

>
> On 17-Feb-06, at 6:26 PM, JJZolx wrote:
>
>>
>> Another Browse Artwork observation: Is anyone aware that the new
>> "cover.png" image for missing artwork isn't transparent in IE6? I
>> believe there are workarounds, either using JavaScript and CSS or by
>> manipulating the PNG palette. But why not just use a gif?
>>
> Dean added it. Dean will have to answer that.
>
> as for why it fails to show transparent: IE can't handle an alpha
> blend.
>
> -kdf
>
>