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beatdownvictim
2006-02-06, 00:06
Hi all, i just got my SB to work today, and i was wondering why the heck it's so bloody loud?!?

Anyway, I'm using the SB's volume control into my amp (analogue connection). Anyway, When i open up slimserver, it shows volume 1-11. On my SB, it shows 1-40.

I tried doing a search, but i can't even begin to think what to search. Can someone help a noob out?

Thanks all!

ceejay
2006-02-06, 00:51
Hi all, i just got my SB to work today, and i was wondering why the heck it's so bloody loud?!?

Anyway, I'm using the SB's volume control into my amp (analogue connection). Anyway, When i open up slimserver, it shows volume 1-11. On my SB, it shows 1-40.

I tried doing a search, but i can't even begin to think what to search. Can someone help a noob out?

Thanks all!

Hi!

First, don't be put off by the volume controls being 1-11 on the web and 1-40 on the remote UI - the control covers the same range, you just have more resolution using the remote.

Second, the reason it sounds too loud will be to do with the sensitivity of the amp you are driving it with- other people have complained its too quiet!

But the good news is that there is a feature just for you. In the web interface, go to Player Settings - Audio and look for "Preamp Volume Control". This is the value of attenuation in dB which will be applied to this player regardless of the volume setting. Default 0. Try som other values like 10 or 20 - look for the value which , when used with "max" on the normal volume control, gives you the loudest volume you can imagine wanting.

This feature was added relatively recently, so if you don't find it you should download a more recent version of slimserver.

HTH

Ceejay

Skunk
2006-02-06, 07:17
I tried doing a search, but i can't even begin to think what to search. Can someone help a noob out?
Thanks all!

I'm going to assume you're not an 'audiophile' because of where you posted this, but depending on what kind of amp you're using you may want to 'attenuate' the signal outside the Squeezebox for other reasons.

If your amp is that 'loud', you may be vulnerable to a burst of noise coming out of the Squeezebox in one form or another, and potentially damaging your speakers.

Limiting the maximum volume with the volume knob of a receiver or integrated amp, or using a passive attenuator on a power amp, will keep the digital attenuation applied by the Squeezebox to a minimum. Not only does this reduce the risk of a noise burst, it may have sonic benefits as well by keeping total digital attenuation above the -35db gain point [see link for clarification].

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20719

fairyliquidizer
2006-02-06, 07:35
Mine sounds fine volume wise about the same as my CD.


i was wondering why the heck it's so bloody loud?!?

Anyway, I'm using the SB's volume control into my amp (analogue connection). Anyway, When i open up slimserver, it shows volume 1-11. On my SB, it shows 1-40.


I think this explains why it's so "bloody loud":


Marty DiBergi: Does that mean it's louder? Is it any louder?
Nigel Tufnel: Well, it's one louder, isn't it? It's not ten. You see, most blokes, you know, will be playing at ten. You're on ten here, all the way up, all the way up, all the way up, you're on ten on your guitar. Where can you go from there? Where?
Marty DiBergi: I don't know.
Nigel Tufnel: Nowhere. Exactly. What we do is, if we need that extra push over the cliff, you know what we do?
Marty DiBergi: Put it up to eleven.
Nigel Tufnel: Eleven. Exactly. One louder.

nicketynick
2006-02-06, 09:23
I knew somebody would chip in with the 'Spinal Tap' reference!

fairyliquidizer
2006-02-06, 09:27
I couldn't resist! If 11 is loud, how loud is 40 going to be! It'll rock!

Skunk
2006-02-06, 09:28
Ceejay, I hope my post didn't come off as an attempt to supersede your advice. I'm sure that works perfectly for almost everyone.

I do wonder, though, if the attenuation set in 'server settings' is relatively the same as lowering the volume on the player, if that makes any sense. Another way of putting it, would 16bit throughput to the DAC be possible at #40 on player, with attenuation applied on the server setting?

Robin Bowes
2006-02-06, 18:18
fairyliquidizer said the following on 02/06/2006 04:27 PM:
> I couldn't resist! If 11 is loud, how loud is 40 going to be! It'll
> rock!

My Squeezebox goes up to 41.

R.

beatdownvictim
2006-02-06, 19:54
Thanks for the help guys! really appreciate it! now, i can listen when i go to sleep! ahhhhh excellent!

Damn, i forgot to list my system, it would have helped a bit :o

Modest, but good enough for my room

Amp: Teac Al-700p (VR modified)
Source: SB (haaaaa)
Speakers: Omega A8 clones
Cabling: Magnet wire IC's and speaker cables

Nice little system. great for my purposes!

A big thumbs up to y'all!