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Dave Strickler
2006-01-15, 10:23
This may be a little off-topic, but this really is about SlimDevices
;-)

Let me preface this by saying I am not an audiophile. I enjoy listening
to music all day, but a 6 year old amp still "sounds good to me". I
can't even tell the difference between an 256 MP3 and FLAC with the
equipment I use.

Problem: I am putting in a new floor in my apartment, and need some
advice for a SB3 configuration. The floor has three rooms and a deck,
so four "zones" for sound. I would like to have separate speakers in
each zone, so that I can have separate music volumes in each space.

Design 1: Have a single SB3 that connects to a single amp, that powers
speakers in all 4 zones. Each zone's speakers would have their own
volume control. But, this means only one music stream for the floor, and
one centralized control (read: remote) for the floor. And a amp that can
support 4 zones.

Design 2: Have multiple SB3s. Perhaps one for every zone. Then a small
amp for each zone. That would solve the volume issues, and the SB3s
could be "synced" if I wanted to same music in all rooms.

Design 3: Have 2 SB3s. Each powers two rooms. I would still use 2 amps,
but they don't have to have a lot of power and there are only four
speakers max that would be in use on any amp.

So my question is, what's the best config how a non-audiophile like me?
I'd like to balance a simple-to-use, but reasonably flexible system.
Obviously it *has* to be based on SBs. I am very addicted to those ;-)

Comments? Opinions?

TIA,


Dave Strickler
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dijon
2006-01-15, 10:50
all of these look good/viable. however, a big question would be do you ever want *different* music in each room? if you wanted the same music, the cheapest solution would be to run it off of one squeezebox with small cheap amps and speakers in every room and then use a speaker switcher or a receiver with multiple zones as you suggested in design 1. if you wanted different music, then you'd want to go the multiple squeezeboxen approach like design 2. design 3 of course is a good compromise..

i think you've selected 3 excellent options and the choice is really based on your projected usage.

if your budget allows, i'd go the 4 squeezebox route..it's the most flexible and if you ever decided to scale down you could sell the extra squeezeboxen on ebay for really cheap to someobody, like, say, me!


----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Strickler
To: discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 12:23 PM
Subject: [slim] Advice needed on an audio design for a new floor


This may be a little off-topic, but this really is about SlimDevices ;-)

Let me preface this by saying I am not an audiophile. I enjoy listening to music all day, but a 6 year old amp still "sounds good to me". I can't even tell the difference between an 256 MP3 and FLAC with the equipment I use.

Problem: I am putting in a new floor in my apartment, and need some advice for a SB3 configuration. The floor has three rooms and a deck, so four "zones" for sound. I would like to have separate speakers in each zone, so that I can have separate music volumes in each space.

Design 1: Have a single SB3 that connects to a single amp, that powers speakers in all 4 zones. Each zone's speakers would have their own volume control. But, this means only one music stream for the floor, and one centralized control (read: remote) for the floor. And a amp that can support 4 zones.

Design 2: Have multiple SB3s. Perhaps one for every zone. Then a small amp for each zone. That would solve the volume issues, and the SB3s could be "synced" if I wanted to same music in all rooms.

Design 3: Have 2 SB3s. Each powers two rooms. I would still use 2 amps, but they don't have to have a lot of power and there are only four speakers max that would be in use on any amp.

So my question is, what's the best config how a non-audiophile like me? I'd like to balance a simple-to-use, but reasonably flexible system. Obviously it *has* to be based on SBs. I am very addicted to those ;-)

Comments? Opinions?

TIA,


Dave Strickler
MailWise LLC
617-933-5810 (direct)
www.mailwise.com
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Dave Strickler
2006-01-16, 22:55
(laugh) If I promise to sell them, you'll have to pry them from my hands
first - I love these SBs!

Thanks for the opinions on the setup. I'm thinking of going with
separate SBs for flexibility as well. I like the idea of having the
ability of listen to NPR in one room, and music in the other. If I don't
design in the flexibility, I just *know* I will want it later.

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>>> troven (AT) gmail (DOT) com 12:50:26 PM Sunday, January 15, 2006 >>>

all of these look good/viable. however, a big question would be do you
ever want *different* music in each room? if you wanted the same music,
the cheapest solution would be to run it off of one squeezebox with
small cheap amps and speakers in every room and then use a speaker
switcher or a receiver with multiple zones as you suggested in design 1.
if you wanted different music, then you'd want to go the multiple
squeezeboxen approach like design 2. design 3 of course is a good
compromise..

i think you've selected 3 excellent options and the choice is really
based on your projected usage.

if your budget allows, i'd go the 4 squeezebox route..it's the most
flexible and if you ever decided to scale down you could sell the extra
squeezeboxen on ebay for really cheap to someobody, like, say, me!


----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Strickler
To: discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 12:23 PM
Subject: [slim] Advice needed on an audio design for a new floor


This may be a little off-topic, but this really is about SlimDevices
;-)

Let me preface this by saying I am not an audiophile. I enjoy listening
to music all day, but a 6 year old amp still "sounds good to me". I
can't even tell the difference between an 256 MP3 and FLAC with the
equipment I use.

Problem: I am putting in a new floor in my apartment, and need some
advice for a SB3 configuration. The floor has three rooms and a deck,
so four "zones" for sound. I would like to have separate speakers in
each zone, so that I can have separate music volumes in each space.

Design 1: Have a single SB3 that connects to a single amp, that powers
speakers in all 4 zones. Each zone's speakers would have their own
volume control. But, this means only one music stream for the floor, and
one centralized control (read: remote) for the floor. And a amp that can
support 4 zones.

Design 2: Have multiple SB3s. Perhaps one for every zone. Then a small
amp for each zone. That would solve the volume issues, and the SB3s
could be "synced" if I wanted to same music in all rooms.

Design 3: Have 2 SB3s. Each powers two rooms. I would still use 2 amps,
but they don't have to have a lot of power and there are only four
speakers max that would be in use on any amp.

So my question is, what's the best config how a non-audiophile like me?
I'd like to balance a simple-to-use, but reasonably flexible system.
Obviously it *has* to be based on SBs. I am very addicted to those ;-)

Comments? Opinions?

TIA,


Dave Strickler
MailWise LLC
617-933-5810 (direct)
www.mailwise.com
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JJZolx
2006-01-17, 00:37
Problem: I am putting in a new floor in my apartment, and need some
advice for a SB3 configuration. The floor has three rooms and a deck,
so four "zones" for sound. I would like to have separate speakers in
each zone, so that I can have separate music volumes in each space.

Design 1: Have a single SB3 that connects to a single amp, that powers
speakers in all 4 zones. Each zone's speakers would have their own
volume control. But, this means only one music stream for the floor, and
one centralized control (read: remote) for the floor. And a amp that can
support 4 zones.

Design 2: Have multiple SB3s. Perhaps one for every zone. Then a small
amp for each zone. That would solve the volume issues, and the SB3s
could be "synced" if I wanted to same music in all rooms.

Design 3: Have 2 SB3s. Each powers two rooms. I would still use 2 amps,
but they don't have to have a lot of power and there are only four
speakers max that would be in use on any amp.

So my question is, what's the best config how a non-audiophile like me?
I'd like to balance a simple-to-use, but reasonably flexible system.
Cost no object? Obviously one SB per zone would be the most flexible. It doesn't take much thought to put a complete stereo system in every room - just some money.

I think you'd have to examine usage - how are the rooms used, and what are the likely listening habits? You mention a deck - if the deck is accessed via one of the three rooms, then one Squeezebox as the source for both the room and deck would make sense, although I'd still have separate volume controls in each. If you use a single source for speakers in more than one room you could use a single amp and impedence matching volume controls typical of multi-room audio systems. See companies like Niles Audio (http://www.nilesaudio.com/) for such gear.

What you lose with a single Squeezebox as a source for multiple rooms is the ability to control the box through the remote UI in any room except the one where the SB is physically located. That is, unless you use a PC, laptop, or PDA to access the web interface on SlimServer and control the box that way.