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Cleve
2006-01-02, 16:25
I just saw this posted and discussed over at Audiokarma.org...

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060102-5877.html

I thought it even more appropriate to post here - Not that I care about Coldplay - I couldn't even identify a "Coldplay" song if my life depended on it, but since Capitol's despicable and arrogant anticopy scheme would prevent us from making FLAC copies for our music libraries.

Mark Lanctot
2006-01-03, 07:14
This is absolutely despicable.

Just goes to show that the record companies don't
care for their customers at all, but most people
knew that already.

I won't get into fist-shaking or saber-rattling as
it clearly doesn't work. I would've thought that
companies would have learned their lesson after
the Sony fiasco, but that lesson seems to have
been that putting onerous restrictions on your
customers is good business practice and that fair
use isn't in the legal books.

I will point out two things:

1. EAC ripped this CD perfectly, so this would
not prevent you making FLAC copies.

2. There are lots of programs that monitor
registry/file system changes and can allow you to
deny or undo changes made by programs.

What would be of grave concern is if the record
companies now went after ripping software, EAC in
particular. It's fortunate that EAC comes from
Germany where the RIAA has no jurisdiction.

Jurisdiction - I'm talking like they're a police
force.

Cleve wrote:
> I just saw this posted and discussed over at
Audiokarma.org...
>
>
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060102-5877.html
>
> I thought it even more appropriate to post here -
Not that I care about
> Coldplay - I couldn't even identify a "Coldplay"
song if my life
> depended on it, but since Capitol's despicable and
arrogant anticopy
> scheme would prevent us from making FLAC copies for
our music
> libraries.
>
>

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Mark Lanctot
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ezkcdude
2006-01-03, 07:30
Cdparanoia can rip it, as well (for now, anyway).

Jacob Potter
2006-01-03, 08:39
On 1/3/06, Mark Lanctot <marklanctot (AT) yahoo (DOT) ca> wrote:
> Just goes to show that the record companies don't
> care for their customers at all, but most people
> knew that already.

At this point, one is better off just downloading the music from
AllOfMP3 and buying a T-shirt from the artist. It's morally a better
option - they get most of the money from the shirt - and your computer
is probably safer too.

- Jacob

highdudgeon
2006-01-03, 09:13
Amazing -- just amazing.

Too bad no one can explain how ripping a CD you have purchased into YOUR hard drive is different from making a cassette from an LP.

mattybain
2006-01-03, 09:21
Amazing -- just amazing.

Too bad no one can explain how ripping a CD you have purchased into YOUR hard drive is different from making a cassette from an LP.

Whilst I agree with all of the comments above and will resolutely never buy either DRM infected or copy protected CD's I can clearly see the difference between hard drive and cassette copies.

Copying music onto Hard Drives and CD's is a real problem for the music industry. Consider that I could (in theory) lend my 100Gb music collection on a portable harddrive to a friend and that they could then copy 1,200 albums in about one hour. Try doing that on cassette!! Not to mention the difference in quality.

Cleve
2006-01-03, 09:24
On 1/3/06, Mark Lanctot <marklanctot (AT) yahoo (DOT) ca> wrote:
> Just goes to show that the record companies don't
> care for their customers at all, but most people
> knew that already.

At this point, one is better off just downloading the music from
AllOfMP3 and buying a T-shirt from the artist. It's morally a better
option - they get most of the money from the shirt - and your computer
is probably safer too.

- Jacob


The problem with that option - for me - is the sound quality. Most of these Itune MP3s are 128 kb I believe, - and I can clearly hear the significant degradation in sound quality from CD to 128 kb MP3. I would NEVER buy a 128 kb MP3 - if they want to provide a FLAC, WAV or AIFF, well, that would be different.

mattybain
2006-01-03, 09:28
The problem with that option - for me - is the sound quality. Most of these Itune MP3s are 128 kb I believe, - and I can clearly hear the significant degradation in sound quality from CD to 128 kb MP3. I would NEVER buy a 128 kb MP3 - if they want to provide a FLAC, WAV or AIFF, well, that would be different.

I agree with Jacob much much better to download from Allofmp3.com and buy a T-Shirt or donate 3-5 to the artist (probably more than they would receive for a CD sale anyway). Quality options on allofmp3 go from mp3 96kbps to FLAC and the rips tend to be spot on.

Robin Bowes
2006-01-03, 10:29
highdudgeon said the following on 03/01/2006 16:13:
> Amazing -- just amazing.
>
> Too bad no one can explain how ripping a CD you have purchased into
> YOUR hard drive is different from making a cassette from an LP.

I don't know what country you're in, but that's technically illegal in
the UK. I looked into this in some length when considering setting up a
ripping service.

R.
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