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treble
2005-12-30, 21:42
I don't have a Squeezebox yet, but seriously thinking about it, because the sound quality I get through my TiVo is not that great.

I use MusicMagic all the time with my TiVo ( http://www.predixis.com ). The nice thing is that the first option on the TiVo MusicMagic screen is the 'Instant Mix'. This creates a mix based on a random song in your collection. If I don't like it, I just press left arrow and try another instant mix.

As I understand how MusicMagic works with the Squeezebox is that there is a little icon or something behind the songtitle when it is 'mixable'.

My question is if it is easy to get a random song out of my whole collection to create a MusicMagic Mix. I read somewhere that there is an option for 'Random Mix' for the Sqeezebox. Does this work 'instantly' or do you have to wait 10s of seconds for it to show?

THanks!

kdf
2005-12-30, 23:09
On 30-Dec-05, at 8:42 PM, treble wrote:

> As I understand how MusicMagic works with the Squeezebox is that there
> is a little icon or something behind the songtitle when it is
> 'mixable'.
>
That is basically correct. When browsing music via the web interface
OR the player interface, you will see an extra icon. Press-and-hold
play to get into the mixer functions. you can use the settings to
allow you to alter the mix parameters in the player UI every time, or
set them globally from the web interface. The end result is a mixed
playlist that you can play all songs or just one.

> My question is if it is easy to get a random song out of my whole
> collection to create a MusicMagic Mix. I read somewhere that there is
> an option for 'Random Mix' for the Sqeezebox. Does this work
> 'instantly' or do you have to wait 10s of seconds for it to show?
>
the 'random' mix is an answer to those who used to use shuffle mode and
load their entire collection to listen at random. This was very slow,
as it needed to load and shuffle thousands of songs. Random loads just
10 and starts playing very quickly. It is, however, strictly random.
The only parameters for random is a genre selection list.

Getting a mix based on one of these random tracks takes a bit longer,
since the current playlist doesn't have an interface for directly
creating a mix. In the web, you can click on the album link for the
given song, then click the mixer icon for that song when the album
listing shows. The player UI allows you to press NOW PLAYING then RIGHT
to show the song info, press DOWN until you see the album title, then
RIGHT to get to the album list where it set the currently playing song
as the displayed song. Press and hold PLAY at this point will create a
mix based on that song.

If you want to try this out before you get a squeezebox, just download
slimserver and install it. There is a software player called
SoftSqueeze included with the server that behaves much the same as the
hardware will (the hardware reacts faster and plays better, due to some
recent bugs in the application but you can get a really goo idea of the
operation.)

-kdf

treble
2006-01-01, 21:35
Thanks for the reply.

I installed slimserver and softsqueeze and activated the MusicMagic program. It all looks very nice (I have ordered a Squeezebox after I saw how it all works).

Still a big improvement would be if you could create an instant Music Magic mix by just holding the play button (instead it will ask if I want to save the current playlist). Going the "NOW PLAYING then RIGHT
to show the song info, press DOWN until you see the album title, then
RIGHT to get to the album list where it set the currently playing song
as the displayed song. Press and hold PLAY at this point will create a
mix based on that song." route is quite a lot of steps.

Maybe if people don't like the 'cluttered interface' with the mm icon why not be able to toggle it on and off when clicking 'now playing' or something. Or make it an option somewhere that instead of 'saving playlist', holding the play button creates a new MusicMagic mix based on the current song...

I will see when I get my SB to see how annoying I find it (since creating instant mixes with TiVo is so easy). Hopefully not too since so far I really like all of it and don't want to use the return policy...