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Mark Lanctot
2005-12-03, 19:36
Well my Squeezebox2 review is almost up. You can see
a preview at

http://www.abxzone.com/abx_reviews/fraoch2/article_p1.html

This isn't public yet and I'm having the formatting
and video errors corrected. What I'd like you guys to
do is have a look through it and point out any factual
errors or notable omissions to me.

Note this is a computer site so the intended audience
might not understand audio.

To make sure my review is fair and objective, I will
not be changing my conclusions or opinions. Yes, some
of the problems I had were solved with SlimServer
6.2.1, but the review was written when I was using
6.1.1 software.

Thanks.

Mark Lanctot

snarlydwarf
2005-12-03, 20:07
The remote doesn't use JVC codes. Slimserver just happens (by default) to accept them. This is easy to disable (which is good, because I happen to have a JVC tv and would rather not be mucking with TV volume when I want to change SB volume...).

Other than that I don't see anything that stands out as wrong, though I'm not sure if I would limit it to techno people... seriously addicted music junkies can deal with it. (There is a certain amount of technology that 'audiophiles' have to touch before they're satisfied with their setup.. slimserver isn't that complicated to tweak, no worse than playing with green markers on cds.. :P)

My mom wouldn't use it, but then, I'm not even sure she listens to CD's...

dean
2005-12-03, 20:38
On Dec 3, 2005, at 6:36 PM, Mark Lanctot wrote:
> To make sure my review is fair and objective, I will
> not be changing my conclusions or opinions. Yes, some
> of the problems I had were solved with SlimServer
> 6.2.1, but the review was written when I was using
> 6.1.1 software.
If you are using the 6.2.1 software, I think your readers would
benefit from the most up to date information about the product.

Apart from that, the title of the pages have something to do with a
GPS receiver for Dell Axim. :)

Mark Lanctot
2005-12-03, 20:42
Yes, I'm getting the title of the review fixed.

I've thought about updating the review to 6.2.x of
SlimServer and decided against it for timing reasons.
You've seen from the Datetime screensaver photo how
long it took to write this review - 6.2.1 would
require an extensive rewrite because it has so many
new features. With Christmas holidays coming out, it
would probably not be released until the New Year, and
by then 6.2.2 or later would be out...

I take a LONG time to write reviews because editing
and proofreading take a really long time for me.

--- dean blackketter <dean (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com> wrote:

>
> On Dec 3, 2005, at 6:36 PM, Mark Lanctot wrote:
> > To make sure my review is fair and objective, I
> will
> > not be changing my conclusions or opinions. Yes,
> some
> > of the problems I had were solved with SlimServer
> > 6.2.1, but the review was written when I was using
> > 6.1.1 software.
> If you are using the 6.2.1 software, I think your
> readers would
> benefit from the most up to date information about
> the product.
>
> Apart from that, the title of the pages have
> something to do with a
> GPS receiver for Dell Axim. :)
>
>
>

kolepard
2005-12-03, 21:03
>The remote doesn't use JVC codes. Slimserver just happens (by default)

Actually, the original SLIMP3 had a Sony universal remote that used
the JVC codes to control it. So it isn't by happenstance.

I haven't had any trouble getting either my MX-500 or Logitech
Harmony remotes to work well with the SLIMP3, Squeezebox 1, or
Squeezebox 2.

Kevin
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kolepard
2005-12-03, 21:05
>6.2.1 would require an extensive rewrite because it has so many new features.

You might mention those new features, just to point out that the
software is progressing and improving.

Kevin
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Kevin O. Lepard

Happiness is being 100% Microsoft free.

seanadams
2005-12-03, 21:40
How about focusing the review on SB3 instead of SB2, since SB2 is at end-of-life?

If you don't have an SB3 contact me...

Sean

snarlydwarf
2005-12-03, 21:42
Actually, the original SLIMP3 had a Sony universal remote that used
the JVC codes to control it. So it isn't by happenstance.


Ah, well the current one very definitely doesn't use JVC codes or my TV would be annoying.

The correct statement then is "the server by default not only accepts the slimdevices remote codes, it also accepts JVC codes for backwards compatibility and easy programming of universal remotes"

MrC
2005-12-03, 21:49
I like the review, and especially the enthusiasm that comes across.

There's a small typo on page 2: "For example, the latest firmware upda e added native ". Missing the 't' in "update".

This is nice work Mark.

Mark Lanctot
2005-12-03, 21:53
Sean:

I focused my review on the SB2 because that's what I
recently bought - I don't have an SB3. Also the
internal hardware and operation (with 6.2.x) are the
same.

I am sure the site would love to update the review to
the SB3. I have contacted them but I'm sure they will
agree.

I was first thinking I could do a follow-up, but if
you would rather focus on the SB3 with 6.2.x software
I'd be willing to do a rewrite.

--- seanadams
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> How about focusing the review on SB3 instead of SB2,
> since SB2 is at
> end-of-life?
>
> If you don't have an SB3 contact me...
>
> Sean
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seanadams
2005-12-03, 22:09
I was just thinking change the title, swap the first two images, and use the new back panel photo - you call though, it's not a big deal either way.

erratum p 2 par 4: "WMA decoding" not "WMA lossless decoding". (Lossless is a totally separate codec - not supported in firmware but it is supported by server-side decoding on Windows).

Mark, this is a wonderful review - it is clear you spent a lot of time on it! thanks!!!

Sean

Mark Lanctot
2005-12-03, 22:13
Thank you!

I think that typo likely came from the conversion to
HTML the site did. I composed it in OpenOffice.org
(for which I am also a fanboy!) and that would sure
have tripped the spellchecker.

I will probably be taking Sean and Dean's suggestion
and rewriting the review for the SB3 and SlimServer
6.2.x.

--- MrC <MrC.1zi15b (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com>
wrote:

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> I like the review, and especially the enthusiasm
> that comes across.
>
> There's a small typo on page 2: "For example, the
> latest firmware upda
> e added native ". Missing the 't' in "update".
>
> This is nice work Mark.
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Mark Lanctot
2005-12-03, 22:24
--- seanadams
<seanadams.1zi22n (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com> wrote:

>
> erratum p 2 par 4: "WMA decoding" not "WMA lossless
> decoding".
> (Lossless is a totally separate codec - not
> supported in firmware but
> it is supported by server-side decoding on Windows).

I actually took it right from the Slim website.

http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_specs.html

"Lossless Formats (Apple Lossless, FLAC, WMA
Lossless)"

I did not make the distinction between what's decoded
in the player and what's decoded server side. As we
both know, you more than me, when everything's working
as intended, it doesn't matter. :-)

So as long as it is either decoded in the server or
the player, I would like to include it as it's
transparent to the end user.

>
> Mark, this is a wonderful review - it is clear you
> spent a lot of time
> on it! thanks!!!

Thanks!

Are you going by the date on the datetime screenshot? ;-)

davehg
2005-12-04, 01:28
It is really heating up, with recent reviews in a number of audiophile websites. The SB2 and SB3 may help usher in a new wave of computer audio, much the same way CD's caused a shift from LP to CD.

The IPOD deservedly gets its props for causing a revolution in audio, but the IPOD is not a suitable replacement for a CD player in the home.

I have links to several of these articles in my blog about setting up an audiophile music server based on the SB3.

http://musicserver.blogspot.com

Bruce Hartley
2005-12-04, 02:04
Maybe it's just me, but I've never seen continued shortened to con't.

Surely it should be cont'd?

also this is opinion of course, but why would "they do not sell in retail stores" make them better?
Surely if the retail stores wanted to buy them from the distributors, they wouldn't be blocked?

Mark Lanctot
2005-12-04, 08:35
That was the site that did that - I'll bring it to
their attention. Thanks.

Bruce Hartley wrote:
> Maybe it's just me, but I've never seen continued
shortened to con't.
>
> Surely it should be cont'd?
>
>

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