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Cleve
2005-11-28, 14:49
I finally was able to exchange/upgrade my Squeezebox 1 for a Squeezebox 3 last Friday. After 3 days of evaluation, I can't say enough good things about it.


I had a few issues with the first Squeezebox 1 I owned, but they seem to have disappeared with 3. Here's the pluses I've experienced so far...

Menu speed seems improved.

Display is MUCH easier to read. The larger display allows a lot more information to be displayed in a font that can be read across the room than Squeezebox 1.

Squeezenetwork - it's SO good to be able to use Squeezebox without booting up my desktop computer. I bought Squeezebox primarily for internet radio.

Appearance - the styling meshes far better with my glass-faced McIntosh equipment than the old Squeezebox design. And while there's no ungainly external antenna, signal strength is as strong, if not stronger, with SB3 than SB1

Sound Quality - I'm surprised at how much better it sounds to my uneducated ears than Squeezebox 1 when in two-channel analog mode. MP3 radio seems to sound richer, with better high frequency content.

Buffer - wow, no annoying dropouts, particularly when my old 650 Athlon is chugging on some particularly CPU intensive task.

And those are just some of the advantages. The only DIS-advantage is that bass and treble controls have disappeared. I liked this feature only because I use vintage equipment sans remote controls, and it was nice to be able to adjust tone remotely.

Otherwise, it's a great product that I highly recommend.

Nathan Beaver
2005-11-28, 16:36
I've got three Squeezebox 1s at home and so i'm also
still using a Wireless B router. Would like to
upgrade with 2 new SB3 and then use a single SB1.
Anyone mixing and matching at home? Has that created
any issues for anyone? Would there be significant
disavantages if I didnt also upgrade to Wireless G
router?

Thanks.

Nathan


--- Cleve <Cleve.1z88db (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com>
wrote:

>
> I finally was able to exchange/upgrade my Squeezebox
> 1 for a Squeezebox
> 3 last Friday. After 3 days of evaluation, I
> can't say enough good
> things about it.
>
>
> I had a few issues with the first Squeezebox 1 I
> owned, but they seem
> to have disappeared with 3. Here's the pluses I've
> experienced so
> far...
>
> Menu speed seems improved.
>
> Display is MUCH easier to read. The larger display
> allows a lot more
> information to be displayed in a font that can be
> read across the room
> than Squeezebox 1.
>
> Squeezenetwork - it's SO good to be able to use
> Squeezebox without
> booting up my desktop computer. I bought Squeezebox
> primarily for
> internet radio.
>
> Appearance - the styling meshes far better with my
> glass-faced McIntosh
> equipment than the old Squeezebox design. And while
> there's no ungainly
> external antenna, signal strength is as strong, if
> not stronger, with
> SB3 than SB1
>
> Sound Quality - I'm surprised at how much better it
> sounds to my
> uneducated ears than Squeezebox 1 when in
> two-channel analog mode. MP3
> radio seems to sound richer, with better high
> frequency content.
>
> Buffer - wow, no annoying dropouts, particularly
> when my old 650 Athlon
> is chugging on some particularly CPU intensive task.
>
>
> And those are just some of the advantages. The
> only DIS-advantage is
> that bass and treble controls have disappeared. I
> liked this feature
> only because I use vintage equipment sans remote
> controls, and it was
> nice to be able to adjust tone remotely.
>
> Otherwise, it's a great product that I highly
> recommend.
>
>
> --
> Cleve
>
> Two-channel system;
>
> McIntosh MC2205 amplifier
> McIntosh MAC4100 receiver
> Klipsch CF-4 speakers
> Denon DR-M3 Cassette Deck
>
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Mark Lanctot
2005-11-28, 16:49
It should work, but you'd be pushing the wireless
connection with WAV and FLAC streams for sure.

For MP3 you should have no problems.

Upgrading the router won't get you much anyway.
If a G router is working with G and B clients, it
will not operate at full G speeds.

Nathan Beaver wrote:
> I've got three Squeezebox 1s at home and so i'm also
> still using a Wireless B router. Would like to
> upgrade with 2 new SB3 and then use a single SB1.
> Anyone mixing and matching at home? Has that
created
> any issues for anyone? Would there be significant
> disavantages if I didnt also upgrade to Wireless G
> router?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Nathan
>
>
> --- Cleve
<Cleve.1z88db (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>I finally was able to exchange/upgrade my Squeezebox
>>1 for a Squeezebox
>>3 last Friday. After 3 days of evaluation, I
>>can't say enough good
>>things about it.
>>
>>
>>I had a few issues with the first Squeezebox 1 I
>>owned, but they seem
>>to have disappeared with 3. Here's the pluses I've
>>experienced so
>>far...
>>
>>Menu speed seems improved.
>>
>>Display is MUCH easier to read. The larger display
>>allows a lot more
>>information to be displayed in a font that can be
>>read across the room
>>than Squeezebox 1.
>>
>>Squeezenetwork - it's SO good to be able to use
>>Squeezebox without
>>booting up my desktop computer. I bought Squeezebox
>>primarily for
>>internet radio.
>>
>>Appearance - the styling meshes far better with my
>>glass-faced McIntosh
>>equipment than the old Squeezebox design. And while
>>there's no ungainly
>>external antenna, signal strength is as strong, if
>>not stronger, with
>>SB3 than SB1
>>
>>Sound Quality - I'm surprised at how much better it
>>sounds to my
>>uneducated ears than Squeezebox 1 when in
>>two-channel analog mode. MP3
>>radio seems to sound richer, with better high
>>frequency content.
>>
>>Buffer - wow, no annoying dropouts, particularly
>>when my old 650 Athlon
>>is chugging on some particularly CPU intensive task.
>>
>>
>>And those are just some of the advantages. The
>>only DIS-advantage is
>>that bass and treble controls have disappeared. I
>>liked this feature
>>only because I use vintage equipment sans remote
>>controls, and it was
>>nice to be able to adjust tone remotely.
>>
>>Otherwise, it's a great product that I highly
>>recommend.
>>
>>
>>--
>>Cleve
>>
>>Two-channel system;
>>
>>McIntosh MC2205 amplifier
>>McIntosh MAC4100 receiver
>>Klipsch CF-4 speakers
>>Denon DR-M3 Cassette Deck
>>
>
>
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>
>>Cleve's Profile:
>>http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2048
>>View this thread:
>>http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18591
>>
>>

ChrisB
2005-11-29, 03:31
I have the exact same setup at home - I now have 1 SB1 and 2 SB3s, all
working in harmony. I do have 802.11g WiFi, though.

Chris

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Subject: Re: [slim] Thumbs up for Squeezebox 3!

I've got three Squeezebox 1s at home and so i'm also
still using a Wireless B router. Would like to
upgrade with 2 new SB3 and then use a single SB1.
Anyone mixing and matching at home? Has that created
any issues for anyone? Would there be significant
disavantages if I didnt also upgrade to Wireless G
router?

Thanks.

Nathan


--- Cleve <Cleve.1z88db (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com>
wrote:

>
> I finally was able to exchange/upgrade my Squeezebox
> 1 for a Squeezebox
> 3 last Friday. After 3 days of evaluation, I
> can't say enough good
> things about it.
>
>
> I had a few issues with the first Squeezebox 1 I
> owned, but they seem
> to have disappeared with 3. Here's the pluses I've
> experienced so
> far...
>
> Menu speed seems improved.
>
> Display is MUCH easier to read. The larger display
> allows a lot more
> information to be displayed in a font that can be
> read across the room
> than Squeezebox 1.
>
> Squeezenetwork - it's SO good to be able to use
> Squeezebox without
> booting up my desktop computer. I bought Squeezebox
> primarily for
> internet radio.
>
> Appearance - the styling meshes far better with my
> glass-faced McIntosh
> equipment than the old Squeezebox design. And while
> there's no ungainly
> external antenna, signal strength is as strong, if
> not stronger, with
> SB3 than SB1
>
> Sound Quality - I'm surprised at how much better it
> sounds to my
> uneducated ears than Squeezebox 1 when in
> two-channel analog mode. MP3
> radio seems to sound richer, with better high
> frequency content.
>
> Buffer - wow, no annoying dropouts, particularly
> when my old 650 Athlon
> is chugging on some particularly CPU intensive task.
>
>
> And those are just some of the advantages. The
> only DIS-advantage is
> that bass and treble controls have disappeared. I
> liked this feature
> only because I use vintage equipment sans remote
> controls, and it was
> nice to be able to adjust tone remotely.
>
> Otherwise, it's a great product that I highly
> recommend.
>
>
> --
> Cleve
>
> Two-channel system;
>
> McIntosh MC2205 amplifier
> McIntosh MAC4100 receiver
> Klipsch CF-4 speakers
> Denon DR-M3 Cassette Deck
>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Cleve's Profile:
> http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2048
> View this thread:
> http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18591
>
>

gjrhine
2005-11-29, 14:41
Upgrading the router won't get you much anyway.
If a G router is working with G and B clients, it
will not operate at full G speeds.

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If you have a B router but a G laptop I thought there was a way to have the laptop and SB3 connect directly?

Mark Lanctot
2005-11-29, 14:52
Connect directly?

No, the SB3 can only connect via a router.

Yes, a G laptop can connect with a B router and an
SB3 (G) can connect to a B router though.

gjrhine wrote:
> Mark Lanctot Wrote:
>
>>Upgrading the router won't get you much anyway.
>>If a G router is working with G and B clients, it
>>will not operate at full G speeds.
>>
>>
>>>>[/color]
>
> If you have a B router but a G laptop I thought[/color]
there was a way to have
> the laptop and SB3 connect directly?
>
>

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Mark Lanctot
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gjrhine
2005-11-29, 15:08
Then I am confused about the last part of this answer from the FAQ. -

What kind of wireless networks can Squeezebox connect to? Can I connect directly to my computer?

11 Mbps 802.11b and 54Mbps 802.11g are both supported. Both infrastructure and ad-hoc modes are supported, so you can connect to a wireless router, wireless access point, or even directly to a computer that has a wireless network interface.

Mark Lanctot
2005-11-29, 15:14
Oh, I missed that, sorry.

I believe that would be ad-hoc mode. I know very
little about it. It's not widely used.

See

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/expert/bowman_02april08.mspx

gjrhine wrote:
> Then I am confused about the last part of this
answer from the FAQ. -
>
> What kind of wireless networks can Squeezebox
connect to? Can I connect
> directly to my computer?
>
> 11 Mbps 802.11b and 54Mbps 802.11g are both
supported. Both
> infrastructure and ad-hoc modes are supported, so
you can connect to a
> wireless router, wireless access point, or even
directly to a computer
> that has a wireless network interface.
>
>

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Mark Lanctot
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snarlydwarf
2005-11-29, 15:26
11 Mbps 802.11b and 54Mbps 802.11g are both supported. Both infrastructure and ad-hoc modes are supported, so you can connect to a wireless router, wireless access point, or even directly to a computer that has a wireless network interface.

The catch is that you'd then have to either have 2 wireless cards in the laptop, hardwire the laptop to the router or have just the two machines connected.

Ie, the nic in the laptop can't simultaneously be a 802.11g nic in ad hoc mode connecting to the laptop, and an 802.11b/g nic talking to the access point. (That would effectively make the laptop a router, and you'd need two interfaces for that, ideally far apart on different channels as well to keep them from interfering with each other.)

Since the 802.11b/g cards I've seen all have a 'hump' on them, I'm not sure if you could physically get two into the same laptop....

So, no, you probably don't want to do that.