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WladiSGE
2005-11-19, 17:46
Is it possible to hear Ogg Vorbis Streams on squeezebox 2/3 without PC on stereo? e.g. hier is a Stream (kind of russian music) http://tver.aradio.ru:8000/stream.ogg , does it work without pc?
Thank you

Mark Lanctot
2005-11-19, 18:11
This would be through SqueezeNetwork.

I put it in as a favorite and my SB2 can't open the
stream.

Sorry.

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> Is it possible to hear Ogg Vorbis Streams on
> squeezebox 2/3 without PC
> on stereo? e.g. hier is a Stream (kind of russian
> music)
> http://tver.aradio.ru:8000/stream.ogg , does it work
> without pc?
> Thank you
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Mark Lanctot
2005-11-19, 18:14
I should mention that SqueezeNetwork can resolve the
stream name to "AVTORADIO TVER", but it still can't
play it.

--- Mark Lanctot wrote:

> This would be through SqueezeNetwork.
>
> I put it in as a favorite and my SB2 can't open the
> stream.
>
> Sorry.
>
> --- WladiSGE
> <WladiSGE.1yrspb (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Is it possible to hear Ogg Vorbis Streams on
> > squeezebox 2/3 without PC
> > on stereo? e.g. hier is a Stream (kind of russian
> > music)
> > http://tver.aradio.ru:8000/stream.ogg , does it
> work
> > without pc?
> > Thank you
> >
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radish
2005-11-19, 19:03
You can play that if you have a local machine running SlimServer, I just tried it an it worked fine. However, SqueezeNetwork will only allow you to play streams in a format the SqueezeBox understands, which is currently mp3, flac, wav and wma.

WladiSGE
2005-11-20, 04:12
Thank you.

You say currently? Does it mean that my squeezebox (when I get one :) at certain time may support Ogg?

And a Question abot Squeezenetwork: How many favorites is it possible to add there? Is it somehow limited?

shvejk
2005-11-20, 08:11
Yes, native Ogg support can be added to SB2/SB3 firmware. There is already
an existing enhancement request:
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1061

On 11/20/05, WladiSGE <WladiSGE.1yslmz (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com> wrote:
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>
> Thank you.
>
> You say currently? Does it mean that my squeezebox (when I get one :)
> at certain time may support Ogg?
>
>
>

funkstar
2005-11-20, 13:07
If you want native OGG then vote for it in the bugtracker, the more votes the more likely it is :)

Marc Sherman
2005-11-21, 13:57
Josef Shvejk wrote:
> Yes, native Ogg support can be added to SB2/SB3 firmware. There is already
> an existing enhancement request:
> http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1061

Please don't buy the hardware based on this statement, expecting it to
happen some day, because there's a good chance you'll be disappointed.
It is _possible_, but not currently planned, and Sean's on record as
stating that it's low priority.

- Marc

washburn
2005-12-12, 09:20
It seems sort of iffy to say that the Squeezebox "supports ogg" when it really offers only partial support of ogg. I was pretty disappointed to find that that I can't fast forward through any of my music. I hope that squeezebox or somebody offers native support eventually. There are a few of us ogg users out here! And it would be nice for the slim folks to support a format that's open source and technically excellent. Maybe ogg support is impossible/impractical, but I promise that if it happened, it would make a some of us out here very happy!

gbcox
2006-04-29, 10:15
Fantastic...

http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1061

Looking forward to it!

eq72521
2006-04-29, 15:54
It seems sort of iffy to say that the Squeezebox "supports ogg" when it really offers only partial support of ogg. I was pretty disappointed to find that that I can't fast forward through any of my music. I hope that squeezebox or somebody offers native support eventually. There are a few of us ogg users out here! And it would be nice for the slim folks to support a format that's open source and technically excellent. Maybe ogg support is impossible/impractical, but I promise that if it happened, it would make a some of us out here very happy!

When I purchased my first Squeezebox about 16 months ago, I myself was happy to find a product like it that dealt with Ogg in any manner; not many do. Since then, I've decided to work on phasing Ogg out of my library. Ogg is impressive and sounds much better to me than MP3 at any given bitrate, but nothing lossy is ever going to beat something lossless for sound quality. Storage is cheap and only getting cheaper. For those reasons, I'm transitioning to FLAC (and I hope ripping all my stuff for the last damned time). I think that SD saw these trends as well, which is why I think they went for native FLAC support and have native Ogg support way down on the priority list. I love Ogg as much as the next slashdot reading geek, but I fear that its chances for mass acceptance may have passed.

verbatone
2006-04-30, 01:32
When I purchased my first Squeezebox about 16 months ago, I myself was happy to find a product like it that dealt with Ogg in any manner; not many do. Since then, I've decided to work on phasing Ogg out of my library. Ogg is impressive and sounds much better to me than MP3 at any given bitrate, but nothing lossy is ever going to beat something lossless for sound quality. Storage is cheap and only getting cheaper. For those reasons, I'm transitioning to FLAC (and I hope ripping all my stuff for the last damned time). I think that SD saw these trends as well, which is why I think they went for native FLAC support and have native Ogg support way down on the priority list. I love Ogg as much as the next slashdot reading geek, but I fear that its chances for mass acceptance may have passed.

While I almost 100% agree with you here, I think mobile devices will still depend on lossy formats for at least another couple of years until storage is large (in capacity), small (in size), and inexpensive.

I also really like the ogg format. For my iriver, I use ogg with Rockbox and the format can almost not be beat. My library at home for the slimserver is APE, but I'd like to convert to FLAC for foward/rewind capabilities except FLAC is roughly 5%-10% less efficient. I doubt I'll ever see native APE format.

I think the final days for lossy formats are numbered, but there still is viability for the near term. Also, when online retailers start offering lossless audio content, the days of CDs will be over too.

Chris OH
2006-04-30, 07:14
Also, when online retailers start offering lossless audio content, the days of CDs will be over too.

Check out allofmp3.com for lossless downloads

eq72521
2006-04-30, 09:31
While I almost 100% agree with you here, I think mobile devices will still depend on lossy formats for at least another couple of years until storage is large (in capacity), small (in size), and inexpensive.

I also really like the ogg format. For my iriver, I use ogg with Rockbox and the format can almost not be beat. My library at home for the slimserver is APE, but I'd like to convert to FLAC for foward/rewind capabilities except FLAC is roughly 5%-10% less efficient. I doubt I'll ever see native APE format.

I think the final days for lossy formats are numbered, but there still is viability for the near term. Also, when online retailers start offering lossless audio content, the days of CDs will be over too.

I'm with you here as well. I almost included my opinions on this in my previous post, but I didn't want to stray too far. I'm really picky and in my case, I couldn't find a portable player (much less a car player) that supported Ogg *and* had all the other features I wanted. In the case of iRiver, it was their lack of external, expandable storage. So in addition to the FLAC copy of my library, I also maintain a separate MP3 tree for use with those devices. If by some miracle Ogg gains more marketshare and some devices come out that can use it that meet all of my other requirements, I'll buy in again and just re-encode my library from the FLACs.


Check out allofmp3.com for lossless downloads

There are numerous threads about allofmp3.com here. Personally, I find the gray area in which they operate to be a little too black, and I'll stick with CDs as long as they are available. Also, some here have speculated (after listening to downloaded tracks) that their "lossless" downloads are actually just transcoded 320kbit MP3s. I suppose someone could download a lossless track of something they own on CD and compare the bits, but I've not heard of such a test.