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stranger blue
2005-11-18, 07:55
I've far more music than PC hard drive space so I'm looking at getting a network storage device.

I figure that 1 Terabyte should do it.

Has anyone had any experience with either of these: ?

Netgear's SC101 (SAN)
http://www.netgear.com/products/details/SC101.php

Buffalo Technology Terastation (NAS)
http://www.buffalotech.com/products/product-detail.php?productid=97&categoryid=19

Any advice would be most appreciated.

mattybain
2005-11-18, 10:03
I too am interested in some networked storage and have been looking at the Netgear SC101 but have been put off by the fact that not all hard drives appear to be compatible. http://forum1.netgear.com/support/viewtopic.php?t=13117

This seems to negate the advantage that you can fit any drive especially as I mainly have Seagate Ultra drives.

chrisla
2005-11-18, 10:10
As someone who maintains hundreds of terabytes of SAN storage, sorry
to burst Netgear's bubble, but they are both NAS devices.

SAN is generally defined that it presents the storage to the server as
a block device (it thinks it is a local drive) and connects (in
general) via Fibre Chanel, not Ethernet or Wireless.

We have a terra station around, it's been ok. The one we have does not
really integrate into a domain, so it's all local accounts. Also it's
hackability if you are looking to put slim directly on it is low.

Never tried the other one.

-Chris

On 11/18/05, stranger blue
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> I've far more music than PC hard drive space so I'm looking at getting a
> network storage device.
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> I figure that 1 Terabyte should do it.
>
> Has anyone had any experience with either of these: ?
>
> Netgear's SC101 (SAN)
> http://www.netgear.com/products/details/SC101.php
>
> Buffalo Technology Terastation (NAS)
> http://tinyurl.com/4wd7h
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> Any advice would be most appreciated.
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bossanova808
2005-11-18, 15:54
Try the infrant readyNAS - Ive got slimserver running on it with about 400 gig of music and it works a treat. Slightly slower than a dedicated server I was running before but way cooler as I can just leave it running 24 hours a day as it uses less than 100W of power.

JJZolx
2005-11-18, 16:22
As someone who maintains hundreds of terabytes of SAN storage, sorry
to burst Netgear's bubble, but they are both NAS devices.

SAN is generally defined that it presents the storage to the server as
a block device (it thinks it is a local drive) and connects (in
general) via Fibre Chanel, not Ethernet or Wireless.
There are plenty of iSCSI SAN devices that use Ethernet. Looking at the Netgear site, they claim the device offers block level access and that volumes are local, so I'd say it qualifies as a SAN, although it must certainly be one of the lowest priced SAN devices available.

My biggest reservation is that they claim it can only be used with Windows, so if you ever planned on running a Linux or Apple SlimServer, you'd be out of luck.

An NAS will do all you need for the purposes of running SlimServer. But unless you plan on using the NAS for other storage needs such as video or computer backups, you'd probably do just as well to simply replace your current drive with a larger one. You can get an awful lot of music on a single 400 or 500GB drive.

funkstar
2005-11-19, 04:12
As far as i can tell from Netgears Datasheet, the SC101 requires drivers on a Windows PC to be accessable, so it isn't even a proper NAS.

orrinc
2005-11-22, 18:59
it's at:
www.yellowmachine.com

1TB NAS with router, firewall, switch, etc.

Can it run the SlimServer kernel?

They are offering demo units for $700.00 which looks very good for a RAID NAS device!

Anyone familiar with these??

Thanks!

Orrin

kefa
2005-11-23, 12:50
sounds like you need DMX-3...

http://www.emc.com/products/systems/symmetrix/DMX_series/DMX3.jsp

wr4200
2005-11-23, 20:15
sounds like you need DMX-3...

http://www.emc.com/products/systems/symmetrix/DMX_series/DMX3.jsp <http://www.emc.com/products/systems/symmetrix/DMX_series/DMX3.jsp>



Oh, that looks nice. Can you run SS on that so I don't have to have two machine running? I'm trying to conserve electricity you know ;)

wr420

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trebejo
2005-11-26, 07:32
sounds like you need DMX-3...

http://www.emc.com/products/systems/symmetrix/DMX_series/DMX3.jsp

What do their boxes cost? They're coy about putting up the price tags.

funkstar
2005-11-26, 11:24
EMC Symmetrix DMX-3 brings you the most powerful networked storage solution available
You don't list a price for something like that. You make an appointment for a rep to visit you and then you plan your storage strategy and they come and install it.

Not something you pick up at Best Buy ;)

trebejo
2005-11-26, 16:10
You don't list a price for something like that. You make an appointment for a rep to visit you and then you plan your storage strategy and they come and install it.

Not something you pick up at Best Buy ;)

Right. I remember when these suits would look at me and say "Linux?? Never heard of it!"

So it wasn't actually a realistic or helpful suggestion to bring it up in the first place, but rather something between a joke and a waste of one's time. In my case, it was rather little of the former and all of the latter.