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Pale Blue Ego
2005-11-16, 10:12
This looks cool...

http://www.netgear.com/products/details/XE104.php

I'm currently using Netgear's 11 Mbps Wall-Plugged device, the XE-102, which features 1 ethernet jack.

Their new one, the XE-104, has a throughput of 85 Mbps and features 4 ethernet jacks (and it's the same price I paid for the XE-102 a year ago).

This technology is extremely simple and reliable (just plug them in and you're done). The only problems I ever had was once after a power outage they lost contact - unplugging and replugging them fixed it.

This looks like a great alternative if Wi-Fi coverage is weak and running Cat-5 cable isn't an option. Another cool thing is, it will work anywhere on your property, so if you have a barn or outbuilding far away from the house, this is the answer.

Dan Goodinson
2005-11-16, 10:45
Additionally (and slightly off-topic, for which I apologise), it seems
that Netgear are soon to release s "MIMO" cable broadband router. They
already have an ADSL "MIMO" broadband router on offer, but I'm on cable
(NTL) so must wait for a while.

Apparently MIMO is far more stable than current wi-fi and is far less
prone to interference. It operates on 3 channels so if any one channel
gets knocked out by a blip from someone's old cordless phone, the other
2 channels can pick up the slack. Further benefit of 3 distinct
transmissions is that the throughput is increased by 3 times, too.
Theoretical maximum of current MIMO devices is 200mbps. The theoretical
maximum of the upcoming Netgear release is going to be 240Mbps. I'd
expect this to translate to a working speed of anything between 50 and
80Mbps. Well worth waiting for :-) :-) :-) (Especially considering
that currently the 108+ devices only work out at something like
20-25Mbps at close range - this can drop to as low as 4 or 5Mbps at a
distance (especially when you're transmitting through walls/furniture
etc).

The expected working speed of the wall-plugged devices is around 40 -
45Mbps, by the way.

Back on topic - great news about the Netgear 85Mbps wall-plugged
devices. I may indeed have to get a couple of those in the meantime :-)
:-) Cheers for the link also :-) :-)


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This looks cool...

http://www.netgear.com/products/details/XE104.php

I'm currently using Netgear's 11 Mbps Wall-Plugged device, the XE-102,
which features 1 ethernet jack.

Their new one, the XE-104, has a throughput of 85 Mbps and features 4
ethernet jacks (and it's the same price I paid for the XE-102 a year
ago).

This technology is extremely simple and reliable (just plug them in and
you're done). The only problems I ever had was once after a power
outage they lost contact - unplugging and replugging them fixed it.

This looks like a great alternative if Wi-Fi coverage is weak and
running Cat-5 cable isn't an option. Another cool thing is, it will
work anywhere on your property, so if you have a barn or outbuilding far
away from the house, this is the answer.


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Dan Goodinson
2005-11-17, 02:51
PBE,

Have you found anywhere that sells this yet? I did a search yesterday
evening, but couldn't find anyone selling it :-( If you have found a
distributor, can you post back with details? I'm UK based...

Cheers!
Dan.

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Subject: [slim] Netgear 85 Mbps Wall-Plugged Ethernet Switch



This looks cool...

http://www.netgear.com/products/details/XE104.php

I'm currently using Netgear's 11 Mbps Wall-Plugged device, the XE-102,
which features 1 ethernet jack.

Their new one, the XE-104, has a throughput of 85 Mbps and features 4
ethernet jacks (and it's the same price I paid for the XE-102 a year
ago).

This technology is extremely simple and reliable (just plug them in and
you're done). The only problems I ever had was once after a power
outage they lost contact - unplugging and replugging them fixed it.

This looks like a great alternative if Wi-Fi coverage is weak and
running Cat-5 cable isn't an option. Another cool thing is, it will
work anywhere on your property, so if you have a barn or outbuilding far
away from the house, this is the answer.


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bpa
2005-11-17, 03:08
Devolo make equivalent - I have the lower speed one. Dabs sells both

http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=3RYL&SearchType=1&SearchTerms=devolo&PageMode=3&SearchKey=All&SearchMode=All&NavigationKey=0

Dan Goodinson
2005-11-17, 03:14
Thanks bpa.

I knew that there were other 85mbps devices, but was very keen on the
Netgear one. Though having just spoken to Netgear (UK) they tell me
it's not available here yet, and not to expect it before end of January
:(

Dammit :( By that time I'm kind of hoping that the Netgear MIMO cable
router will be available - I wanted to get the wall-plugged switch to
tide me over till the MIMO kit became available.

Sigh.

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Devolo make equivalent - I have the lower speed one. Dabs sells both

http://tinyurl.com/a3qf3


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mattybain
2005-11-17, 03:40
Additionally (and slightly off-topic, for which I apologise), it seems
that Netgear are soon to release s "MIMO" cable broadband router. They
already have an ADSL "MIMO" broadband router on offer, but I'm on cable
(NTL) so must wait for a while.



This device from Belkin (http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=178491) would appear to work on Cable. I am on NTL as well and am also keen for a higher throughput network.

My understanding is that with a MIMO network b and g devices can connect with no loss of speed for the other devices connecting at higher speeds. Is this correct as this would be critical to it being useful for me.

Dan Goodinson
2005-11-17, 03:53
Yes, that's my understanding too. In fact, the various literature I've
read on MIMO would seem to suggest that existing b/g devices would even
experience an _increase_ in performance with a MIMO router. If I've got
it right, it'd seem that the increased signal strength and range of the
MIMO router is kind of like "moving the b/g device nearer to the router"
(even though the devices remain in the same location), hence the
increase in performance.

I've been doing some digging on this, and I never realised until
recently just how much the performance of b/g devices drops even over
short distances. It seems that the performance drop is almost
exponential as distance between b/g NIC and b/g router/access point
increases (!)

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This device from Belkin
(http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=178491)
would appear to work on Cable. I am on NTL as well and am also keen for
a higher throughput network.

My understanding is that with a MIMO network b and g devices can connect
with no loss of speed for the other devices connecting at higher speeds.
Is this correct as this would be critical to it being useful for me.


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AndyWright
2005-11-17, 06:47
I've had a lot of success with these;

http://www.solwise.co.uk/net-powerline-pl-85pe.htm

I started off helping my next door neighbour get wireless working in his house. Unfortunately it's a 200 year old building with internal walls that are 2 feet thick in places, needless to say wireless wasn't the way to go.

These things literally plug in and work and have been 100% reliable.

There's also a slower version (14Mbps) for those that want to spend less...

Andy.