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Jimmerz
2005-10-07, 03:53
Hi All,
I'm about to get another squeezebox for my kitchen/diner room. This room is about 3m x 6m. Based on what I've already read here I am thinking of going for a power amp with a pair of ceiling mounted speakers.

There seems to be a good selection here: http://www.hifistore.co.uk/category.php?qsCat=SPKINCEIL

But to be honest I wouldn't know where to start in choosing.

With a budget of about 4 hundred quid give or take, could you guys give me any recommendations where to start?

inguz
2005-10-07, 05:22
How about a cheap-cheap amplifier (which gets rave reviews, but I've not heard it) and some fancy loudspeakers (the A'Divas sounded very nice on a very brief listen, but others likely have more experience with them):

http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/sonicimpact/t.html

http://www.anthonygallo.co.uk/gallo-products/ceilingmount.php

Fifer
2005-10-07, 07:10
That amp is so cheap and has such a following that I'd love to buy one. Unfortunately (just like the equally cheap and rated Chaintech AV710 soundcard) no-one in the EU seems to sell them. I'd order from the states, but shipping, duty, VAT and (especially) customs clearance charges are too much of a lottery.

CardinalFang
2005-10-07, 07:35
Hi All,
With a budget of about 4 hundred quid give or take, could you guys give me any recommendations where to start?

I actually set up my kitchen with an old Naim Nait 2 amp and a pair of Linn Sweetspot in-ceiling speakers.

I must admit I haven't been too enamoured with them, it's a fairly thin sound and no bass, but that may be down to the ceiling mounts, although they are in pretty firmly. The also buzz when the volume is up, so I'm not sure I'd recommend them as a single pair, they probably work best as multiples. They do look very neat though, same size as a downlighter, which is why I chose them initially.

The Naim is great though, so why no check out ebay for a good secondhand integrated amp?

Paul

Jimmerz
2005-10-07, 07:49
Cheers for that - very interested in the speakers you mention Inguz, that's great that the ceiling mount is seperate. According to their website, there's a dealer up the road from me that sells them so I can actually hear them first unlike other ceiling speakers.

Patrick Dixon
2005-10-07, 08:26
Don't know if your 'dealer down the road' is Grahams, but they do B&W as well as Linn and the Gallo stuff. KEF and Sonance products are generally well thought of too. IIRC the Gallo stuff is quite expensive.

I built some dedicated SqueezeBox amps for an installation I did http://www.at-view.co.uk/installations.htm. They're 'chipamp' based, single input; with no controls to play with, and they can be hidden away fairly easily (even in the ceiling I reckon). I could do one for about 150 depending on the case it goes in. There's a lid off photo here: http://www.at-view.co.uk/components.htm.

I've actually used one to drive a pair of Isobariks, and it works really (surprisingly) well!

dean
2005-10-07, 12:11
On Oct 7, 2005, at 5:22 AM, inguz wrote:

>
> How about a cheap-cheap amplifier (which gets rave reviews, but
> I've not
> heard it) and some fancy loudspeakers (the A'Divas sounded very
> nice on
> a very brief listen, but others likely have more experience with
> them):
>
> http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/sonicimpact/t.html
I'm using this amp for the speakers mounted in the ceiling and it
works terrific and you can't beat the price.

-dean

max.spicer
2005-10-08, 01:29
Anyone know of a reseller that will sell it in the UK?

Max



http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/sonicimpact/t.html[/color]
I'm using this amp for the speakers mounted in the ceiling and it
works terrific and you can't beat the price.

-dean

Michaelwagner
2005-10-10, 21:46
> http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/sonicimpact/t.html
I'm using this amp for the speakers mounted in the ceiling and it works terrific and you can't beat the price.
Manufacturers online store is here:
http://www.si-technologies.com/frontEnd/cm_productDetail.jsp?productID=18
but they say they're currently out of stock.

cbemoore
2005-10-11, 02:05
Search Ebay for "Sonic Impact". There's a European seller sellng them with a "Buy it now" price of about 20 (plus 15 postage). But I haven't bought one off him, so I don't know how trustworthy he is??

Chris

Patrick Dixon
2005-10-11, 02:09
IIRC you also need a PSU - which pushes the final cost up a bit more.

Jimmerz
2005-10-11, 03:01
There's a couple on there, what a shame this guy only delivers to Germany:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7552202287

Robin Bowes
2005-10-11, 03:26
Jimmerz said the following on 11/10/2005 11:01:
> There's a couple on there, what a shame this guy only delivers to
> Germany:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7552202287

What makes you think that? The auction says:

Item location: Hannover, Germany
Post to: Europe

And later on he says...

International Bidders: please ask before you bid for the shipping costs
or if you got any other questions.

R.
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If a man speaks in a forest,
and his wife's not there,
is he still wrong?

Patrick Dixon
2005-10-11, 03:45
Look nice (on sinewaves anyway!) - note that a previous one went for 140 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=22509&item=7534016937

lostboy
2005-10-11, 15:00
If you fancy a Tripath amp and are not averse to a bit of soldering (Surface Mount) have a look at the amps on www.41Hz.com. I've built an AMP 3 - cost for the kit 25 euros plus shipping. To this you need to add a case and some basic mounting H/W and a PSU.

Using a cheap CB radio PSU from Maplin I found the quality of this amp was at least the equal of a Linn Intek (yeah old I know now), and suspect that with a good PSU it'll get even better.

Chris

Fifer
2005-10-12, 02:17
Anyone know of a reseller that will sell it in the UK?

MaxI found this supplier (http://www.media-zone.co.uk/default.asp?so=A&welc=Z&search1=Amplifiers) yesterday and have ordered one. I don't usually deal with vendors who only provide email contact details and only take Paypal, but in this instance I'll risk the 25. I'll let you know what happens.

Those 41Hz audio amps look interesting. I might just spend another 25 ...

Fifer
2005-10-13, 10:20
Oh me of little faith. I ordered it on Tuesday evening and it arrived on Thursday morning. Very good service from Media-Zone. First impressions are that it's tiny and it's not quite as cheap and nasty looking as I expected (it looks ok really and it's small enough to hide anyway). Trouble is that it arrived too quickly and being a headphone listener, I haven't got round to sorting out some decent speakers so I can't let you know how it sounds. If you trust all the on-line reviews and want a UK supplier, I'd recommend this lot. It was only 24.99 including VAT and delivery.

JJP
2005-10-15, 00:43
I'm running a T-Amp with some some largeish speakers for my kitchen squeezebox.

I bought 2 T-Amps from the US and 2 mains PSU's from the UK back in June of this year. They eat batteries, and you need a PSU which can put out >2amps, this was tricky to source.

Costs as follows:

1. 2 x T-Amps from http://www.thinkgeek.com/ =
$69.98 plus (daft) shipping: $36.96, Total: $106.94 = 59.41

2. The inevitable DHL Customs charge: 12.02

3. Two PSUs from Rapid electronics http://rapidelec.co.uk:
11-25W MINI DESKTOP DWITCH PSU 12V DC 2A
29.96 incl shipping

Total: 101.39 for two, more than I expected... but I'm pretty happy with the quality.

Jonathan

Michaelwagner
2005-10-16, 06:47
thinkgeek is also showing out of stock now

Mike Hanson
2005-10-17, 06:38
I got my Sonic Impact 5066 T-Amp from Parts Express (http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=300-952).

-=> Mike Hanson <=-

Michaelwagner
2005-10-18, 07:39
Their web site says:
In Stock? No, due 11/1/2005
Want us to email you when it arrives?
Weight: 1.50 lbs.
Catalog Page: 022 (PDF)
Email This Page To A Friend!

Mike Hanson
2005-10-18, 11:16
Their web site says:
In Stock? No, due 11/1/2005
Sorry, I didn't spot that.

-=> Mike Hanson <=-