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Dave Dewey
2005-09-28, 10:44
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050928/wr_nm/media_musicgiants_dc

http://www.musicgiants.com/

cliveb
2005-09-28, 11:42
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050928/wr_nm/media_musicgiants_dc

http://www.musicgiants.com/
Uses WMA Lossless *WITH DRM*. Therefore broken from the word go.

djaffe205
2005-09-29, 04:44
It sounds like it will happen at some point. See the following thread:

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?threadid=16659

cliveb
2005-09-29, 07:34
It sounds like it will happen at some point. See the following thread:

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?threadid=16659
My remark that the use of DRM makes this service "broken" wasn't a reference to the SB2's inability to play the files. Much as I love my SB2 (indeed I like it so much that - like WSLam - I sold my high-end CD player), it isn't necessarily the only place I might want to play my music.

DRM is by its very nature an insidious, evil, controlling technology. The overt reason for it is to prevent piracy. But the hidden agenda is to deliver music that can only be played on "authorised" hardware. And the end result will be that you'll be forced to buy a particular replay device if you want to hear a specific piece of music. And when there are multiple different DRM mechanisms around, that's multiple pieces of "authorised" hardware required if you don't want your listening choices limited. We all need to resist DRM.

pfarrell
2005-09-29, 08:45
On Thu, 2005-09-29 at 07:34 -0700, cliveb wrote:

> DRM is by its very nature an insidious, evil, controlling technology.
> The overt reason for it is to prevent piracy. But the hidden agenda is
> to deliver music that can only be played on "authorised" hardware. And
> the end result will be that you'll be forced to buy a particular replay
> device if you want to hear a specific piece of music. And when there are
> multiple different DRM mechanisms around, that's multiple pieces of
> "authorised" hardware required if you don't want your listening choices
> limited. We all need to resist DRM.

We are the Borg, we will assimilate you. Just replace Borg with DRM.
It is insidious and evil. It is part of a vast conspiracy.
When all of your music and video is under DRM from a closed source,
then you will have to use their software and approved hardware to
access it.

I expect that we will be assimilated, but I intend to resist as long
as I can.

--
Pat
http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html

hal9000
2005-09-29, 12:06
I'm going to continue to buy cd's...out of the 5 albums I bought on iTunes, I repurchased 3 of them on CD because the DRM was blocking use on certain devices...IF they ever reduce the price to $.25 per song I would conisder buying a DRM download...until then they can go *%$# themselves with their protected digital content that costs them nothing to deliver, costs more than cd's, and limits your use.

x94blair3
2005-09-29, 13:31
I posted pretty much the same thing in the avsforum today. Someone was complaining they could only get their m4p audio on their ipod. They had another player that of course wouldn't accept it. I suggested the hymn project as a solution, I think he chose to copy to CD and then rip mp3 from the CD as a work around.

My arguement is simple. Generally, when I buy a CD the music is mine to play wherever, whenever and on whatever I want. There is no reason my digital music purchase should be any different. Especially when it's priced almost identically.

Music is a form of entertainment. If the format that entertainment is offered to me limits my ability to be entertained when and how I want, it should have a different pricing model.

So I buy itunes music sometimes (although I wish they'd offer lossless..I'd buy more). I rip out the DRM. I listen to the music wherever, whenever and on whatever I want, and contrary to the DRM police's opinion of a typical consumer who'd dare to control their own content...I don't give it away.

Nick

dSw
2005-09-29, 14:48
Selling lossless audio online is a step in the right direction.

Remove the DRM, price it less than the equivalent CD then I will buy.

The way it should be done:

http://www.bleep.com/ - high quality MP3 and expanding range of FLAC, no DRM

http://www.somarecords.com/shop/ - MP3 and FLAC, no DRM

Peter van Cooten
2005-09-30, 12:25
And don't forget EMUSIC.COM.
Still the best collection of them all, IMO (but not if you're into Major
Artist and hit records)

Peter


-----Original Message-----
From: dSw [mailto:dSw.1w54db (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com]
Sent: donderdag 29 september 2005 23:49
To: discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
Subject: [slim] Re: new lossless music service


Selling lossless audio online is a step in the right direction.

Remove the DRM, price it less than the equivalent CD then I will buy.

The way it should be done:

http://www.bleep.com/ - high quality MP3 and expanding range of FLAC, no DRM

http://www.somarecords.com/shop/ - MP3 and FLAC, no DRM


--
dSw

radish
2005-09-30, 12:59
Also beatport.com, yoshop.com, playittonight.com, audiojelly.com.


And don't forget EMUSIC.COM.
Still the best collection of them all, IMO (but not if you're into Major
Artist and hit records)

Peter


-----Original Message-----
From: dSw [mailto:dSw.1w54db (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com]
Sent: donderdag 29 september 2005 23:49
To: discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
Subject: [slim] Re: new lossless music service


Selling lossless audio online is a step in the right direction.

Remove the DRM, price it less than the equivalent CD then I will buy.

The way it should be done:

http://www.bleep.com/ - high quality MP3 and expanding range of FLAC, no DRM

http://www.somarecords.com/shop/ - MP3 and FLAC, no DRM


--
dSw