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Matthew Fusfield
2005-09-07, 15:18
I know its only been out 5 hours, but has anyone used iTunes 5 with
SlimServer yet? Anything to watch out for?

Thanks!

Regards,

Matt

superbad
2005-09-07, 16:07
I have been running it this afternoon with no problems. It's a very incremental update from 4.9- more like 4.9.1 really.

CardinalFang
2005-09-08, 01:04
I have been running it this afternoon with no problems. It's a very incremental update from 4.9- more like 4.9.1 really.

It won't install on my Mac, I keep getting "shut down iTunes first message" even when iTunes isn't running. Any clues on how to fix this anyone?

Steven Moore
2005-09-08, 04:13
Log out or restart the mac and try again.

Steven Moore
On 8 Sep 2005, at 9:04AM, CardinalFang wrote:

>
> superbad Wrote:
>
>> I have been running it this afternoon with no problems. It's a very
>> incremental update from 4.9- more like 4.9.1 really.
>>
>
> It won't install on my Mac, I keep getting "shut down iTunes first
> message" even when iTunes isn't running. Any clues on how to fix this
> anyone?
>
>
> --
> CardinalFang
>

Steven Moore
2005-09-08, 04:14
Agreed just a slight facelift really

Steven Moore
On 8 Sep 2005, at 12:07AM, superbad wrote:

>
> I have been running it this afternoon with no problems. It's a very
> incremental update from 4.9- more like 4.9.1 really.
>
>
> --
> superbad
>

mjb
2005-09-08, 08:57
It won't install on my Mac, I keep getting "shut down iTunes first message" even when iTunes isn't running. Any clues on how to fix this anyone?
I found my answer at dealmac:


ATTN: SizzlingKeys users! / iTunes 5
Posted by: bigdog (IP Logged)
Date: September 7, 2005 02:20PM

Apple's iTunes 5 installer looks for any process ending in "iTunes.app". The SizzlingKeys process that runs in the background is named "SizzlingKeys4iTunes.app". Accordingly, your installer will tell you that iTunes is still running and you need to quit it.

Yes, it's lazy on Apple's part.

Yes, you can get around it. Go into the Sizzling Keys preference pane in System Preferences and turn it off. The iTunes installer should now work as expected.


Other new feature to note:

- VBR AAC support!
- Lyrics support (in the info window).

CardinalFang
2005-09-08, 13:13
I found my answer at dealmac:


Other new feature to note:

- VBR AAC support!
- Lyrics support (in the info window).

Yup, that was it. Thanks. I've now installed 5 and lost all my playlists :-( SlimServer doesn't recognise the iTunes library, or can't find it. If I put it in manually I don't get the playlists...

Paul

CardinalFang
2005-09-08, 13:54
Yup, that was it. Thanks. I've now installed 5 and lost all my playlists :-( SlimServer doesn't recognise the iTunes library, or can't find it. If I put it in manually I don't get the playlists...

Paul

I should point out that by the time I had found that it was SizzlingKeys, I had removed all of the old iTunes files so I've lost my old playlists. I recreated new ones, but I think iTunes 5 is putting them in a different place. Has anyone tried a clean install of iTunes 5 and slimserver on a Mac at all?

Where does SlimServer look for the iTUnes playlist data, is there a specific file in a specific location?

thanks

Paul

dean
2005-09-08, 14:10
Hm, that's strange, my iTunes library and playlists are all appearing
fine via iTunes 5...


On Sep 8, 2005, at 1:13 PM, CardinalFang wrote:

>
> mjb Wrote:
>
>> I found my answer at dealmac:
>>
>>
>> Other new feature to note:
>>
>> - VBR AAC support!
>> - Lyrics support (in the info window).
>>
>
> Yup, that was it. Thanks. I've now installed 5 and lost all my
> playlists :-( SlimServer doesn't recognise the iTunes library, or
> can't
> find it. If I put it in manually I don't get the playlists...
>
> Paul
>
>
> --
> CardinalFang
>

CardinalFang
2005-09-08, 14:31
Hm, that's strange, my iTunes library and playlists are all appearing
fine via iTunes 5...


Is it possible that what you are seeing is old playlists from 4.9? In other words 5 puts playlists in a different place but doesn't delete the old ones, so you think you're OK, but if you added a new playlist it doesn't appear?

How does SlimServer "see" the iTunes playlists? Can someone help me with that so I can check file locations on my Mac?

thanks

Paul

Steven Moore
2005-09-09, 02:24
My upgrade went fine, as did another machine here.
Your itunes Libraries are in your music folder in your home folder.
itunes 5 has created its own library in place of the old one. The old
one is in a folder called previous itunes Libraries in the music
folder also.
I know it's a new library file because the date created was 7/9/05.

Your Library file could have been corrupted before updating.
You can either try and get your old Library file to work by deleting
the new one and putting the old one in it's place (renaming it iTunes
Library). When you restart itunes it will attempt to update you
Library again. This probably won't work.
or redo your playlists.
I know it's a bit late now but it's a good idea to back up your
libraries regularly to avoid this.

Steven Moore
On 8 Sep 2005, at 10:31PM, CardinalFang wrote:

>
> dean Wrote:
>
>> Hm, that's strange, my iTunes library and playlists are all appearing
>> fine via iTunes 5...
>>
>>
>
> Is it possible that what you are seeing is old playlists from 4.9? In
> other words 5 puts playlists in a different place but doesn't delete
> the old ones, so you think you're OK, but if you added a new playlist
> it doesn't appear?
>
> How does SlimServer "see" the iTunes playlists? Can someone tell me
> that so I can check file locations on my Mac?
>
> thanks
>
> Paul
>
>
> --
> CardinalFang
>

CardinalFang
2005-09-09, 05:02
I know it's a bit late now but it's a good idea to back up your
libraries regularly to avoid this.

Steven Moore


I actually keep my music on a different drive to my home directory, but I'll check to see what's there.

I did recreate the playlists, but SlimServer still doesn't see them and still doesn't recognise that I'm using iTunes (you don't see the extra options in the server web pages).

Paul

Oscar Marsh
2005-09-09, 05:33
iTunes 5 also adds the ability to make any track "bookmarkable", via the "Remember playback position" checkbox in Get Info>Options, or on multiple items via AppleScript: http://www.dougscripts.com/itunes/scripts/ss.php?sp=selectedtracksbookmarkable

Previously this was only available for AAC files or MP3s downloaded via Podcasts. Perhaps this flag could be worked into the SlimServer DB.

MeSue
2005-09-09, 08:47
Other new feature to note:
- Lyrics support (in the info window).

Hmmm… that might entice me to try iTunes one more time. I'm on dialup, so it will take me a while to download it. While I wait… does anyone want to tell me a little more about this feature? Is it available on the Windows version? Does it show lyrics that are embedded in ID3 tags of MP3 files or is it only for songs you've purchased?

Dan Sully
2005-09-09, 09:24
* MeSue shaped the electrons to say...

>Hmmm� that might entice me to try iTunes one more time. I'm on dialup,
>so it will take me a while to download it. While I wait� does anyone
>want to tell me a little more about this feature? Is it available on
>the Windows version? Does it show lyrics that are embedded in ID3 tags
>of MP3 files or is it only for songs you've purchased?

iTunes 5 uses the USLT (Unsyncronized Lyrics) tag for MP3s - as of the 09-09
6.2beta, SlimServer supports reading & displaying this tag as well in song info.

-D
--
For every new fool-proof invention there is a new and improved fool.

MeSue
2005-09-09, 14:15
After 2 hours of downloading… "Some installation files are corrupt. Try your download again." Bah!

exilejedi
2005-09-19, 20:53
I actually keep my music on a different drive to my home directory, but I'll check to see what's there.

I did recreate the playlists, but SlimServer still doesn't see them and still doesn't recognise that I'm using iTunes (you don't see the extra options in the server web pages).

Paul

Did you ever manage to get this resolved? I (unthinking) upgraded to iTunes 5, and it seems I'm in the same boat. Even manually specifying the location of the iTunes library XML file and the iTunes Music folder, I get 0 albums, 0 artists, 0 tracks, and of course no playlists. I tried the 9/19 nightly of 6.1.2, which had problems running the build-perl-modules.pl. I tried the 9/19 nightly of 6.2, which also didn't grok the iTunes library, and which liked to make lots of duplicate entries (some single-artist, single-disc albums had 2-4 duplicates in the albums listing).

So, now I'm back to the official release of 6.1.1 for Linux, and no playlists, but at least I don't have the junky listings of 6.2.

My suspicion is that XML format changed enough with iTunes 5 (to allow playlist folders, which are really cool) that it breaks slimserver's ability to parse it correctly.

dean
2005-09-19, 21:11
On Sep 19, 2005, at 8:53 PM, exilejedi wrote:
> My suspicion is that XML format changed enough with iTunes 5 (to allow
> playlist folders, which are really cool) that it breaks slimserver's
> ability to parse it correctly.
I upgraded to iTunes 5 and saw no problem importing my iTunes XML
information.

If you are having problems, please use the --d_itunes debugging
option and do a rescan. That should help isolate the problem.

Thanks,

dean

CardinalFang
2005-09-20, 01:00
Did you ever manage to get this resolved? I (unthinking) upgraded to iTunes 5, and it seems I'm in the same boat.

I didn't track down the problem unfortunately - I tried an old playlist, but that didn't work and it was only by moving to 6.1.2 that it resolved itself. My guess is that I messed up the slimserver installation when I tried to do a fresh install of iTunes - I think I deleted the iTunes plugin when cleaning everything out on my Mac.

My only recommendation is to do a fresh install of slimserver and iTunes.

Paul

exilejedi
2005-09-20, 19:08
On Sep 19, 2005, at 8:53 PM, exilejedi wrote:
> My suspicion is that XML format changed enough with iTunes 5 (to allow
> playlist folders, which are really cool) that it breaks slimserver's
> ability to parse it correctly.
I upgraded to iTunes 5 and saw no problem importing my iTunes XML
information.

If you are having problems, please use the --d_itunes debugging
option and do a rescan. That should help isolate the problem.

Thanks,

dean

With the --d_itunes flag enabled, things now work perfectly. I now have all my tracks and playlists; even the playlist folders are handled correctly. Based on my years in the software industry, I have to say that this makes perfect sense. ;-)

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.

Cheers,

Mike

seanadams
2005-09-20, 19:49
With the --d_itunes flag enabled, things now work perfectly. I now have all my tracks and playlists; even the playlist folders are handled correctly. Based on my years in the software industry, I have to say that this makes perfect sense. ;-)


Excellent. Some day we'll tell the story of how we almost had to ship every Squeezebox with an oscilloscope probe attached to it.