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reeve_mike
2005-08-29, 17:33
kdf

I use Fishbone, with Home being Browse Artwork, all the time
- I like it & it impresses the hell out of visitors :-)

Whilst I like the A thru' Z 'jump' that you recently added,
is there any chance having the old-style Prev & Next there also
(note: also) ...?
[It was great for browsing through looking for inspiration
as to what to play next ...]

[OS X 10.4 + Latest Nightly (updated every day)]

MANY THANKS!

Mike

MrC
2005-08-29, 17:50
I was just thinking of the same thing last night for Jason's rewrite of ExBrowse2. The A to Z jumps are nice, but previous and next would be peachy as well, especially if they were both at the top and bottom to minizime the amount of mouse movement.

kdf
2005-08-29, 18:43
On 29-Aug-05, at 5:50 PM, MrC wrote:

>
> I was just thinking of the same thing last night for Jason's rewrite of
> ExBrowse2. The A to Z jumps are nice, but previous and next would be
> peachy as well, especially if they were both at the top and bottom to
> minizime the amount of mouse movement.
>
The pagebar is almost entirely built within the server itself. The
skins and the html have comparably few options for this aspect of the
UI vs things like browse lists. You'll have to file an enhancement
request on bugs and get the server code changed.

-kdf

JJZolx
2005-08-29, 18:56
The pagebar is almost entirely built within the server itself. The
skins and the html have comparably few options for this aspect of the
UI vs things like browse lists. You'll have to file an enhancement
request on bugs and get the server code changed.
Same here. I was thinking the same thing as those guys - Prev and Next links would be handy for browsing.

Is it conceivable that the alphapagebar could itself be skinned? Then one could change the position of the Prev and Next buttons, skin images onto the letters, etc.

reeve_mike
2005-08-30, 06:09
>You'll have to file an enhancement request on bugs
>and get the server code changed.
>
>-kdf

Until a short while ago Prev & Next were there in Fishbone ...

Was the server code 'enhanced' to remove them? :-O

kdf
2005-08-30, 08:56
On 30-Aug-05, at 6:09 AM, reeve_mike wrote:

>
>> You'll have to file an enhancement request on bugs
>> and get the server code changed.
>>
>> -kdf
>
> Until a short while ago Prev & Next were there in Fishbone ...
>
> Was the server code 'enhanced' to remove them? :-O
>
the enhancement request was to have browse artwork list by alphabetical
headers, instead of the numerical headers. This request done, the
enhancement was marked as fixed. With this change ALL skins moved from
a numerical index at the top of browse_artwork to an alpha index at the
top. the alpha index does not have, and never has, 'prev' and 'next'
links.

-kdf

reeve_mike
2005-08-30, 10:47
kdf

OK I now understand what happened but ...
... is it worth putting in a request for Prev & Next
with the alpha headers,
or is it architectually/ideologically a no-no?

THANKS!

Mike

kdf
2005-08-30, 11:08
Quoting reeve_mike <reeve_mike.1ul99c (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com>:

>
> kdf
>
> OK I now understand what happened but ...
> ... is it worth putting in a request for Prev & Next
> with the alpha headers,
> or is it architectually/ideologically a no-no?

well, if people want it, they can request it. It is only a problem becuase with
every change, there is almost always someone who really wants it the old way,
and therefore yet another pref gets added :)

Design-wise, its hard to say how easy or hard it is. The numerical pages are
easy, since each really is a page of so many items. Next and Prev refer to the
next or previous group. The alpha list is for picking the letter for starting
the list, and it finishes at whatever letter fits the items per page setting
best. So, which is "Next"? Next letter after the one you just picked, or next
letter after the one last displayed on the page. If the latter, then the
server has to keep trakc of that and create the right links. I'm not sure how
much detail the server stores in the build, or what kind of performance
slowdown occurs if you have to add steps.

-kdf--
NOT a Slim Devices employee

reeve_mike
2005-08-30, 11:48
> with every change, there is almost always someone who
> really wants it the old way

Or as in this case, wants it both ways at the same time :-)

MANY THANKS for all the explanation [BTW I consider Next to be
the next letter after the last displayed (or the remainder
of the current letter if the total number of items is greater than
items per page), but I guess there's bound to be
others who take your other definition :-O]

I'll file an enhancement request and see what happens ...

kdf
2005-08-30, 12:00
Quoting reeve_mike <reeve_mike.1ulc1b (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com>:

>
> > with every change, there is almost always someone who
> > really wants it the old way
>
> Or as in this case, wants it both ways at the same time :-)

or worse, different for each given browse mode...

but at least there is a completely configurable text-based config file (just
happens to be formatted in Perl ;)
-k