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gonk
2005-08-09, 12:42
I would like to mount the SB2 upside down under a shelf in the kitchen. This gives me two problems:

1. How to fasten the device mechanically. This can be solved in several ways. This is not a big issue, but it would have helped with some keyhole mountings or similar.

2. The text must be rotated on the display. Anyone know how to change this in the Slimserver code? Is it possible at all?

Ideas, anyone?

kdf
2005-08-09, 12:49
Quoting gonk <gonk.1tiikz (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com>:

>
> I would like to mount the SB2 upside down under a shelf in the kitchen.
> This gives me two problems:
>
> 1. How to fasten the device mechanically. This can be solved in several
> ways. This is not a big issue, but it would have helped with some
> keyhole mountings or similar.
>
> 2. The text must be rotated on the display. Anyone know how to change
> this in the Slimserver code? Is it possible at all?

rotating the text is not that simple, since much of the character generation and
animations are in the firmware.

Why not build in a cubby-hole or a small shelf hanging under the counter and
just leave the SB2 right-side-up. There isn't much heat generated by the
device, but there is some. It would be easier letting that flow as designed,
plus if you ever want to do anything with the device, or upgrade to a newer
one, it is still easily removed.

-kdf

jimdibb
2005-08-09, 12:51
Why does it have to be upsidedown? Because the bottom isnt pretty enough?

Use velco to stick it to the bottom.

On 8/9/05, gonk <gonk.1tiikz (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com> wrote:
>
> I would like to mount the SB2 upside down under a shelf in the kitchen.
> This gives me two problems:
>
> 1. How to fasten the device mechanically. This can be solved in several
> ways. This is not a big issue, but it would have helped with some
> keyhole mountings or similar.
>
> 2. The text must be rotated on the display. Anyone know how to change
> this in the Slimserver code? Is it possible at all?
>
> Ideas, anyone?
>
>
> --
> gonk
>

pfarrell
2005-08-09, 12:58
On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 12:42 -0700, gonk wrote:
> 2. The text must be rotated on the display. Anyone know how to change
> this in the Slimserver code? Is it possible at all?

You have two subproblems here.
On SB1/g and SB2, the characters are bit mapped graphics. So
you can change the bitmaps and get new, upside down graphics.
Pretty easy.

But then you have to make the characters flow backwards.

I don't know if the code to support right-to-left
character streams is finished. It is needed to support Hebrew, Arabic,
and some other encodings.

I think I'd go for velcro on the top and not bother looking
at the underside.

But you can do it all if you must


--
Pat
http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html

Spies
2005-08-09, 13:00
Display rotation sounds like a fabulous idea! I know Slim Devices used
to offer an under mount kit for the original SliMP3 but not the
SqueezeBoxes. I think display rotation in software would be just as
good or even better solution. I don't know if it is possible though.
Be sure to open up a feature request at bugs.slimdevices.com so I can
vote on it, Steven

On 8/9/05, gonk <gonk.1tiikz (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com> wrote:
>
> I would like to mount the SB2 upside down under a shelf in the kitchen.
> This gives me two problems:
>
> 1. How to fasten the device mechanically. This can be solved in several
> ways. This is not a big issue, but it would have helped with some
> keyhole mountings or similar.
>
> 2. The text must be rotated on the display. Anyone know how to change
> this in the Slimserver code? Is it possible at all?
>
> Ideas, anyone?
>
>
> --
> gonk
>

fuzzyT
2005-08-09, 13:05
gonk wrote:

> Ideas, anyone?

-Open SB2 case
-Remove and rotate display
-Reinsert
-Close SB2 case

--rt

Auchter, Richard
2005-08-09, 13:06
If the wire going to the display is long enough, wouldn't the easiest
solution be to crack the case and flip the display?

-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Spies [mailto:sspies (AT) gmail (DOT) com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 1:01 PM
To: Slim Devices Discussion
Subject: Re: [slim] Mount SB2 upside down - rotate display text

Display rotation sounds like a fabulous idea! I know Slim Devices used to
offer an under mount kit for the original SliMP3 but not the SqueezeBoxes. I
think display rotation in software would be just as good or even better
solution. I don't know if it is possible though.
Be sure to open up a feature request at bugs.slimdevices.com so I can vote
on it, Steven

On 8/9/05, gonk <gonk.1tiikz (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com> wrote:
>
> I would like to mount the SB2 upside down under a shelf in the kitchen.
> This gives me two problems:
>
> 1. How to fasten the device mechanically. This can be solved in
> several ways. This is not a big issue, but it would have helped with
> some keyhole mountings or similar.
>
> 2. The text must be rotated on the display. Anyone know how to change
> this in the Slimserver code? Is it possible at all?
>
> Ideas, anyone?
>
>
> --
> gonk
>

Fifer
2005-08-09, 13:17
I suspect you might need a longer cable (if it's anything like my recollection of the SB1 internals; I haven't opened my SB2 yet), but certainly not impossible. Someone in another thread was looking for (and found, ISTR) a longer display cable for use in a custom case.

dean
2005-08-09, 13:26
That will work, but you'll need to clip off a couple of the tabs on
the top and bottom case that hold the board in place. The tabs in
question are in the middle of the case (the ones on the ends can be
left in place).



On Aug 9, 2005, at 1:05 PM, ron thigpen wrote:

> gonk wrote:
>
>
>> Ideas, anyone?
>>
>
> -Open SB2 case
> -Remove and rotate display
> -Reinsert
> -Close SB2 case
>
> --rt
>

JJZolx
2005-08-09, 13:28
2. The text must be rotated on the display. Anyone know how to change this in the Slimserver code? Is it possible at all?

Ideas, anyone?
It looks like you might be able to flip the display board over within the case.

http://www.slimdevices.com/photos/inside_squeezebox2/

jimdibb
2005-08-09, 13:38
That ribbon cable looks too short to twist.

On 8/9/05, JJZolx <JJZolx.1tiko1 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com> wrote:
>
> gonk Wrote:
> > 2. The text must be rotated on the display. Anyone know how to change
> > this in the Slimserver code? Is it possible at all?
> >
> > Ideas, anyone?
> It looks like you might be able to flip the display board over within
> the case.
>
> http://www.slimdevices.com/photos/inside_squeezebox2/
>
>
> --
> JJZolx
>
> Jim
>

dean
2005-08-09, 14:10
It's just long enough, assuming you fold it carefully. (For some
number of early SB2s, the connector was placed incorrectly on the
board and we had to fold the cables by hand.)

On Aug 9, 2005, at 1:38 PM, Jim Dibb wrote:

> That ribbon cable looks too short to twist.
>
> On 8/9/05, JJZolx <JJZolx.1tiko1 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> gonk Wrote:
>>
>>> 2. The text must be rotated on the display. Anyone know how to
>>> change
>>> this in the Slimserver code? Is it possible at all?
>>>
>>> Ideas, anyone?
>>>
>> It looks like you might be able to flip the display board over within
>> the case.
>>
>> http://www.slimdevices.com/photos/inside_squeezebox2/
>>
>>
>> --
>> JJZolx
>>
>> Jim
>>

wr420
2005-08-09, 20:52
Although I haven't taken mine apart before so there may be other issues here but how about physically fliping the display upside down in the case?


-----Original Message-----
From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com on behalf of gonk
Sent: Tue 8/9/2005 12:42 PM
To: discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
Subject: [slim] Mount SB2 upside down - rotate display text


I would like to mount the SB2 upside down under a shelf in the kitchen.
This gives me two problems:

1. How to fasten the device mechanically. This can be solved in several
ways. This is not a big issue, but it would have helped with some
keyhole mountings or similar.

2. The text must be rotated on the display. Anyone know how to change
this in the Slimserver code? Is it possible at all?

Ideas, anyone?


--

gonk

gonk
2005-08-10, 13:45
So I have now opened the SB2 and yes, you can rotate the display and the cable is just long enough. I had to cut two small supporting tabs as some leads on the PCB to the display got in the way. But there are still several support to the display so it is still in place.

Thank you all!

Aaron Zinck
2005-08-12, 08:45
So this is off-topic, but are you the same gonk as the fellow from the
Outlaw forums?

>
> So I have now opened the SB2 and yes, you can rotate the display and the
> cable is just long enough. I had to cut two small supporting tabs as
> some leads on the PCB to the display got in the way. But there are
> still several support to the display so it is still in place.
>
> Thank you all!
>
>
> --
> gonk

gonk
2005-08-12, 14:25
OT answer: No. (Seems that someone stole my nickname - or the other way round...)

gonk
2005-09-18, 03:42
Thank you for all comments. The SB2 is now on place in the kitchen, see the attached pictures. I did two keyholes to mount the SB2 upside down - the display was turned 180-degrees. With a hidden power amplifier and in-ceiling speakers - the kitchen has never been a better place to enjoy the music.

Craig
2005-09-19, 04:55
Jeez Baka Beyond,
I bet there's not many of us got that one ;-)

Craig

robinbowes
2005-09-19, 05:15
Gonk,

That looks like a nice job, but I have to ask: why did you need to mount it upside down? Why not just cut the keyholes in the top of the SB and mount it right-way up?

R.

m1abrams
2005-09-19, 06:43
Gonk,

That looks like a nice job, but I have to ask: why did you need to mount it upside down? Why not just cut the keyholes in the top of the SB and mount it right-way up?

R.

I will take a wild guess for him. It looks better his way. Also the top of the SB is not flat. So if you mounted it to a flat surface the SB would angle down.

Nice work, looks very clean and takes up so little space in your kitchen. Question for you, how and where are you speakers mounted?

gonk
2005-09-21, 11:32
m1abrams:

I have a pair of Sonance Virtuoso 830DR in-ceiling speakers mounted in the ceiling (where otherwise?) just above the kitchen table.

And of course you have right regarding my decision of turning the SB2 uside-down. I can also add that in the unlikely event that I would use my SB2 somewhere else, in a more normal way, I will not have two large holes on the top...

I would suggest that Slimdevices add keyholes in a similar way I have done them and include a "rotate display" function in the software.

m1abrams
2005-09-21, 11:39
m1abrams:

I have a pair of Sonance Virtuoso 830DR in-ceiling speakers mounted in the ceiling (where otherwise?) just above the kitchen table.

And of course you have right regarding my decision of turning the SB2 uside-down. I can also add that in the unlikely event that I would use my SB2 somewhere else, in a more normal way, I will not have two large holes on the top...

I would suggest that Slimdevices add keyholes in a similar way I have done them and include a "rotate display" function in the software.

Well I like your setup and keyholes would be a nice addition. However they did include a "rotate display" function, just its a hardware implementation not software (they provided enough cable slack :) ).