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Randall
2005-07-05, 07:44
Hello SB lovers. As a happy owner of 6 squeezboxes, I have created an in wall solution so that it can look as attractive in the wall as it does sound and function.

You can check it out here.
http://www.rondelet.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=60&PN=1&TPN=1

Also, I can continue to build them for others if desired. I'm open for ideas.

Jim
2005-07-05, 17:29
Randall wrote:
> Hello SB lovers. As a happy owner of 6 squeezboxes, I have created an
> in wall solution so that it can look as attractive in the wall as it
> does sound and function.
>
> You can check it out here.
> http://www.rondelet.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=60&PN=1&TPN=1
>
> Also, I can continue to build them for others if desired. I'm open for
> ideas.

I love it. I love the idea, and your implementation look really solid.

My ideal implementation would fit in a standard switch box, and have at
least the basic control buttons (play, pause, skip, and volume up/down)
on the panel.

The industry used to make, and maybe still does make, amplified in-wall
speakers. You need to run power, but you don't need to run to your amp,
just straight out of the pre-amp. The down side is that you need to run
power, and they cost a bit. I think they were made by B&W under the name
"Casa."

sgard9
2005-07-05, 19:42
Randall,

Very nice, an elegant solution with no overkill. One detail that I
missed was how do you secure the in wall unit in place while allowing
removal if necessary?

-- Scott --

On Jul 5, 2005, at 7:44 AM, Randall wrote:

>
> Hello SB lovers. As a happy owner of 6 squeezboxes, I have created an
> in wall solution so that it can look as attractive in the wall as it
> does sound and function.
>
> You can check it out here.
> http://www.rondelet.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=60&PN=1&TPN=1
>
> Also, I can continue to build them for others if desired. I'm open for
> ideas.
>
>
> --
> Randall
>

seanadams
2005-07-05, 19:46
Has anyone used emachineshop? http://www.emachineshop.com

I've tried their software (quite easy to use) but haven't bought any parts yet. Seems like it would be a perfect fit for this kind of thing. Somebody could design a part, get a few made, and also share the design so that others can modify it and order their own.

Randall
2005-07-05, 22:16
Thanks for the complement. I've gone through a few prototypes, until I became satisfied with this one. As far as installation, I have a couple of ideas.

The first is to make clips out of some pretty resilient metal I have around that will be glued onto the back of the faceplates with Gorilla Glue. These clips will force pressure on the wall to keep the player firmly in place. When I need to remove the player, it will come out with a little effort.

The other idea I have is to use my 18 guage brad nailer to pop 4 - 2 inch brad nails through the plate into the sheetrock. I'm not convinced that would be the best way to go.

My last option is to use attractive screws (countersunk) - screwed through the player into a couple of anchors in the sheetrock. This might be the best way.

Thanks again, and I'm always open for suggestions!
Randall


Randall,

Very nice, an elegant solution with no overkill. One detail that I
missed was how do you secure the in wall unit in place while allowing
removal if necessary?

-- Scott --

On Jul 5, 2005, at 7:44 AM, Randall wrote:

>
> Hello SB lovers. As a happy owner of 6 squeezboxes, I have created an
> in wall solution so that it can look as attractive in the wall as it
> does sound and function.
>
> You can check it out here.
> http://www.rondelet.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=60&PN=1&TPN=1
>
> Also, I can continue to build them for others if desired. I'm open for
> ideas.
>
>
> --
> Randall
>

Randall
2005-07-05, 22:18
That's an awesome idea!


Has anyone used emachineshop? http://www.emachineshop.com

I've tried their software (quite easy to use) but haven't bought any parts yet. Seems like it would be a perfect fit for this kind of thing. Somebody could design a part, get a few made, and also share the design so that others can modify it and order their own.

Steve Burling
2005-07-06, 09:58
--On July 5, 2005 10:16:59 PM -0700 Randall
<Randall.1rqfvb (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com> wrote:

> Thanks again, and I'm always open for suggestions!

To which I reply:

How about cutting a dado in the back of the face frame, just deep enough
that if you stick in the hook or fabric side of some stick-on velcro, then
when you stick the other side to the wall the whole frame sits flush
against the drywall? That assumes, of course, that the stick-on adhesive
on the velcro is stronger than the hook-to-fabric velcro connection,
otherwise (and this is what would happen to me :-) the first time you try
to pull the frame off it'll take a huge hunk of the drywall paper and paint
off, in a big stripe up to the ceiling or down to the floor, or both.

--
Steve Burling <mailto:srb (AT) umich (DOT) edu>
University of Michigan, ICPSR Voice: +1 734 615.3779
330 Packard Street FAX: +1 734 647.8700
Ann Arbor, MI 48104-2910

Michael Scott
2005-07-06, 14:01
Quoting Steve Burling <srb (AT) umich (DOT) edu>:

> --On July 5, 2005 10:16:59 PM -0700 Randall
> <Randall.1rqfvb (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks again, and I'm always open for suggestions!

Another idea, depending upon the size of the configuration, you might be able to
get one of those plastic electrical boxes. I'm thinking the one that fits 4
light switches or recepticles. They come in an extra deep size which might give
you enough room and that would protect the electronics from dust etc that's
inside the wall. The box would fasten to the drywall with it's mounting ears
and the frame would bolt to the box.

I haven't measured this yet, so I'm just spitballing here.
----------------------
- Mike Scott
- mscott (AT) pyewacket (DOT) org

Mike Hanson
2005-07-06, 14:24
You could always depend on gravity to hold it in. The unit will be back-heavy, and will want to rotate in that direction. The frame will prevent it from rotating into the wall, so all you need to do is prevent it from slipping down. The mounting bracket itself might be enough to do that, or you may want to use a metal rail (or even a couple of nails) to help out. Here's a basic idea. The shaded area is the wall, and the red mark is the rail/nails.

http://www.avzine.com/images/in-wall-mounting-rail.gif

Of course, this means that anyone could grab it and pivot it out. In that case, you may want to add a couple of "snaps" in the top frame, which engage as you pivot it backwards.

-=> Mike Hanson <=-

superbad
2005-07-07, 08:26
I haven't used emachineshop to actually make parts, but I did model a part and get it quoted- the prices were pretty competitive. The biggest drawback for me was that I would have to redraw parts, since I already model them in SolidWorks.

I have had great success with http://www.mfgquote.com for small machining projects. There are a lot of machine shops out there who need business. Prices for pretty complicated parts have become ridiculously cheap. When I get some spare time I want to make a small machined case for the SB and have it polished.


Has anyone used emachineshop? http://www.emachineshop.com

Patrick Dixon
2005-07-07, 08:35
"I haven't used emachineshop to actually make parts, but I did model a part and get it quoted- the prices were pretty competitive. The biggest drawback for me was that I would have to redraw parts, since I already model them in SolidWorks."

I checked prices, but to the UK at least they seemed expensive.

"I have had great success with http://www.mfgquote.com for small machining projects. There are a lot of machine shops out there who need business. Prices for pretty complicated parts have become ridiculously cheap. When I get some spare time I want to make a small machined case for the SB and have it polished."

Shame that's not true in the UK: the machine shops here all seem to have given up. Just getting anyone to quote for small qs is a nightmare.

Paul Webster
2005-07-08, 11:12
How about asking Slim to add links to your page from here
http://www.slimdevices.com/dev_plugins.html#mods

Randall
2005-07-11, 07:55
I asked them to.. Maybe just a matter of time.

I will move into the new house at the end of this month. I will post pics of how the final product will look in the wall soon after.

Keep the ideas going!

seanadams
2005-07-11, 08:08
Dean added a link already, on Jul 8.