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roos
2005-07-02, 23:05
i want to install slimserver on my laptop, problem is my files are on the file server on 2 diff drives, and i cant point to more then 1 drive. is there a way to add more then 1 source folder/drive. i know that if the server is running on that machine (as it is now) then i just need to make a shortcut file, but that doesnt work when pointing to a mounted drive. if there is no way to do this would it be possible for multipul sources option be added to the server so u could point to any # of machines/drives.

JJZolx
2005-07-02, 23:59
i want to install slimserver on my laptop, problem is my files are on the file server on 2 diff drives, and i cant point to more then 1 drive. is there a way to add more then 1 source folder/drive. i know that if the server is running on that machine (as it is now) then i just need to make a shortcut file, but that doesnt work when pointing to a mounted drive. if there is no way to do this would it be possible for multipul sources option be added to the server so u could point to any # of machines/drives.

Point the Music directory at a local directory on the laptop, which can be empty. Into that local directory, place shortcuts to the shares on the file server.

Then cross your fingers. :-)

kjg
2005-07-03, 10:29
JJZolx wrote:

>roos Wrote:
>
>
>>i want to install slimserver on my laptop, problem is my files are on
>>the file server on 2 diff drives, and i cant point to more then 1
>>drive. is there a way to add more then 1 source folder/drive. i know
>>that if the server is running on that machine (as it is now) then i
>>just need to make a shortcut file, but that doesnt work when pointing
>>to a mounted drive. if there is no way to do this would it be possible
>>for multipul sources option be added to the server so u could point to
>>any # of machines/drives.
>>
>>
>
>Point the Music directory at a local directory on the laptop, which can
>be empty. Into that local directory, place shortcuts to the shares on
>the file server.
>
>Then cross your fingers. :-)
>
>

I just gave this a try in my Windows 2000 system and was unable to
navigate into a shared network directory using the SlimServer interface.
I mapped the network directory to a drive letter and added a shortcut
for it to my music directory. When browsing the music folder through the
SlimServer interface I am able to see the shortcut, but when I click the
link the server treats it as a file rather than a directory and displays
the Song Info page. With all other locally mounted directory shortcuts,
the server simply traverses into them.

It seems as though the treatment of network mounted drives by the server
is somewhat different from locally mounted ones. Is there something that
needs to be done to access music directories over the network?

- Ken

JJZolx
2005-07-03, 10:48
I just gave this a try in my Windows 2000 system and was unable to
navigate into a shared network directory using the SlimServer interface.
I mapped the network directory to a drive letter and added a shortcut
for it to my music directory. When browsing the music folder through the
SlimServer interface I am able to see the shortcut, but when I click the
link the server treats it as a file rather than a directory and displays
the Song Info page. With all other locally mounted directory shortcuts,
the server simply traverses into them.

It seems as though the treatment of network mounted drives by the server
is somewhat different from locally mounted ones. Is there something that
needs to be done to access music directories over the network?

Like I said, cross your fingers. I'm not convinced that SlimServer always handles Windows paths correctly, especially to content on other servers. I only have a single machine on my network currently, so can't do any testing.

If you're running SlimServer on Windows as a service, it needs to run under a user account. In any case, drive mappings are often difficult to get working for a service. Try using UNC paths instead.

roos
2005-07-03, 10:52
ya this does not work, i dont understand why you cant just point to a secord, or third or infinate # of sources, why is there only one.

JJZolx
2005-07-03, 11:07
ya this does not work, i dont understand why you cant just point to a secord, or third or infinate # of sources, why is there only one.

If it's implemented correctly, then shortcuts (links, whatever) should accomplish the same thing. I imagine having multiple source root directories _plus_ the ability to use links might be a nightmare to traverse. Apparently it's already quite a programming challenge.

I just wonder what kind of testing is done on Windows systems during development? I'm not talking about real software testing (yeah, right) but simply whether any of the quick fixes and small changes get tested under Windows before being thrown into the betas.

kjg
2005-07-03, 12:06
Thanks for the pointers, Jim. I tried changing the user account for the
service and place UNC shortcuts into my music directory and the result
is unfortunately the same.

Perhaps the Slim folks could provide some guidance here. This is a
topology that I'd very much like to use.

- Ken

JJZolx wrote:

>kjg Wrote:
>
>
>>I just gave this a try in my Windows 2000 system and was unable to
>>navigate into a shared network directory using the SlimServer
>>interface.
>>I mapped the network directory to a drive letter and added a shortcut
>>for it to my music directory. When browsing the music folder through
>>the
>>SlimServer interface I am able to see the shortcut, but when I click
>>the
>>link the server treats it as a file rather than a directory and
>>displays
>>the Song Info page. With all other locally mounted directory shortcuts,
>>
>>the server simply traverses into them.
>>
>>It seems as though the treatment of network mounted drives by the
>>server
>>is somewhat different from locally mounted ones. Is there something
>>that
>>needs to be done to access music directories over the network?
>>
>>
>
>Like I said, cross your fingers. I'm not convinced that SlimServer
>always handles Windows paths correctly, especially to content on other
>servers. I only have a single machine on my network currently, so
>can't do any testing.
>
>If you're running SlimServer on Windows as a service, it needs to run
>under a user account. In any case, drive mappings are often difficult
>to get working for a service. Try using UNC paths instead.
>
>
>
>

JJZolx
2005-07-03, 12:20
Thanks for the pointers, Jim. I tried changing the user account for the
service and place UNC shortcuts into my music directory and the result
is unfortunately the same.

Perhaps the Slim folks could provide some guidance here. This is a
topology that I'd very much like to use.

I'd establish whether or not you can access the UNC shares first. With various network, file, and share permissions, it can be a devil getting it to work. When I first received my SB2 I set up SlimServer on my office PC on our office network, using a file server with some mp3's. Getting it running was a hair puller:

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=13707&highlight=local+system

Set SlimServer's Music Folder to use one of the network shares and see if that works first. Then try the same with the other share(s). Get shortcuts working later.

Maditude
2005-07-03, 12:29
Instead of monkeying around with links under Windows (which is a just-plain-broken implementation if you ask me), why not just get a bigger disk, so you can fit your entire music collection on it? Then you'd only need to have one of your computers up and running to listen to music...

roos
2005-07-03, 13:05
why not let me point to more then one source? why should i have to go out and buy a larger disc? u want to buy one for me maditude? i only have about 600gb worth of files so a 1tb lacie should do the trick.... for now. ;p

you shouldnt even need to rely on links, u should be able to have:

source 1: d:\music
source 2: e:\music
source 3: \\network\machine\drive\music
source 4: etc
source 5: etc
~

would it really be so hard to have that ability? even if its only thru manually adding them to the cfg file instead of a box system in the web interface.

kdf
2005-07-03, 13:36
Quoting roos <roos.1rm12n (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com>:
> would it really be so hard to have that ability?

if I said no, how long until you can supply a patch? ;)
-kdf

JJZolx
2005-07-03, 14:18
you shouldnt even need to rely on links, u should be able to have:

source 1: d:\music
source 2: e:\music
source 3: \\network\machine\drive\music
source 4: etc
source 5: etc
~

would it really be so hard to have that ability? even if its only thru manually adding them to the cfg file instead of a box system in the web interface.

Help me out here. I'm trying to understand why you think multiple root directories and manually modifying the server config file is easier than creating shortcuts in your music directory? In Windows shortcuts can be created by drag and drop - takes about 5 seconds and you can't even screw up and create a typo in the process.

If there's a bug with the SlimServer implementation of Windows shortcuts then it needs to be identified and fixed. If it's not a bug and the problem has to do with your network setup (subnets, firewalls, etc.) or permission problems, then you'll run into exactly the same thing with multiple music directories.

Maditude
2005-07-03, 16:00
why not let me point to more then one source? why should i have to go out and buy a larger disc? u want to buy one for me maditude? i only have about 600gb worth of files so a 1tb lacie should do the trick.... for now. ;p

Just trying to point you towards the path of least frustration, dude. Feel free to carry on with the whining, you'll get great results, I'm sure.

roos
2005-07-03, 17:14
maditude i was being sarcastic. and u would think someone whos post was similar in nature would have a sense of humor.

jjzolx i just dont see why you cant support both ways of doing it. and what about ppl that want to add/remove sources alot, why should they have to manage links instead of just managing the sources themselfs IF thats how they want to do it. its not like the whole app needs to be changed, we just need the option of pointing to multipul sources. the link system def doesnt seem to work right with windows, windows links are the not the same as nix lnk and maybe that can be fixed and maybe it cant, but wouldnt it even if just until the link system is fixed be easier to add in the option of more sources?

ps. i am not ranting or mad, i currently have slim running on my file server just like most ppl do and am looking for understanding why i cant use the topology i want and what needs to be done to fix it.

stinkingpig
2005-07-03, 18:32
roos wrote:
....
> ps. i am not ranting or mad, i currently have slim running on my file
> server just like most ppl do and am looking for understanding why i
> cant use the topology i want and what needs to be done to fix it.
>
>

you can. links are not that hard to manage. I mean really, if you're
looking for some sort of optimum user experience, why are you using a
computer at all? Accept your compromises and be done with it, there's
better ways to spend a Sunday afternoon.

--
Jack at Monkeynoodle dot Org: It's a Scientific Venture...
Riding the Emergency Third Rail Power Trip since 1996!

mherger
2005-07-03, 22:57
> I just wonder what kind of testing is done on Windows systems during

I think quite a few of the developpers are actually working on Windows
(yes, they're not all linux nerds!). But testing any possible
configuration is really a hard task in any software project of
considerable size.

> development? I'm not talking about real software testing (yeah, right)
> but simply whether any of the quick fixes and small changes get tested
> under Windows before being thrown into the betas.

There were _big_ changes in the scanning process, not only quick fixes.
They need a lot of testing. And if you're using beta software you're
considered being part of the testing process. Report the bug and it should
be fixed.

--

Michael

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