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Victor Brilon
2005-07-02, 02:43
Sorry this took so long to post. I've just gotten done with a hair-
pulling hacking session, just so I could take a screenshot and
transfer it off the device (MUCH harder than it sounds given the
state of the software now).

I thought I could get away with taking a picture of the screen with
my camera, but it just came out looking like garbage. These
screenshots are taken with a screenshot app, are not modified in any
way, and did not come from an emulator -- that'd be cheating :) These
are real life screenshots from the device, using an unmodified WebPad
skin.

Looks pretty good on the device itself, and it works great as a
remote control. It's 4:30 am and I need to go pass out, I just wanted
to post this before I do so. More details later this weekend. Would
love to hear from someone about how this skin could be improved to
look better on a device that's this capable.

Screenshots are here:
http://victorland.com/slimp3/1.jpg -- Home page of the skin
http://victorland.com/slimp3/2.jpg -- Browsing my Music Folder
http://victorland.com/slimp3/3.jpg -- Looking at an album with cover
art while music is playing


Victor

Jacob Potter
2005-07-02, 07:18
On 7/2/05, Victor Brilon <victor (AT) victorland (DOT) com> wrote:
> Sorry this took so long to post. I've just gotten done with a hair-
> pulling hacking session, just so I could take a screenshot and
> transfer it off the device (MUCH harder than it sounds given the
> state of the software now).

Wow.

How did you get one? Nokia's site still says "available 3Q2005".

The big question is does the browser have XMLHTTPRequest? :) On the
PC, it's in Opera 8.x, but not 7.x.

- Jacob

radish
2005-07-02, 09:17
Cool shots. Now we just need some CSS and we're golden ;)

I've seen complaints that the 770 is too slow (both in startup and general usage) - how does it seem to you?

Victor Brilon
2005-07-02, 11:17
On Jul 2, 2005, at 9:18 AM, Jacob Potter wrote:
>
> Wow.
>
> How did you get one? Nokia's site still says "available 3Q2005".
>
I work at Nokia :) Although I have nothing to do with this product at
all (I am actually in a completely different corporate group), the
marketing manager for the device is a good friend and she managed to
get me an early proto. Believe me, this sucker isn't ready to be used
by the outside world yet :) Lots of bugs need to be fixed first.

> The big question is does the browser have XMLHTTPRequest? :) On the
> PC, it's in Opera 8.x, but not 7.x.

I'll check the Opera version later today. If anyone wants to set up a
small (and I do mean small, the browser chokes on huge pages) test
that I can point to, I'd be happy to do that.

Victor

Victor Brilon
2005-07-02, 11:20
On Jul 2, 2005, at 11:17 AM, radish wrote:

>
> Cool shots. Now we just need some CSS and we're golden ;)

Start making a skin. The browser does CSS just fine :)

>
> I've seen complaints that the 770 is too slow (both in startup and
> general usage) - how does it seem to you?
>

It's hard to say. The hardware and software are still in fairly early
versions, so you can't tell what's due to that or what's due to a
slow processor. Currently, app startup time is noticeably slow, but
the runtime seems to be ok. I strongly suspect this will get fixed
before the product launches.

Victor

Jacob Potter
2005-07-02, 11:44
On 7/2/05, Victor Brilon <victor (AT) victorland (DOT) com> wrote:
> I'll check the Opera version later today. If anyone wants to set up a
> small (and I do mean small, the browser chokes on huge pages) test
> that I can point to, I'd be happy to do that.

You could give ExBrowse2 a shot :)

- Jacob

Victor Brilon
2005-07-02, 11:51
On Jul 2, 2005, at 1:44 PM, Jacob Potter wrote:

> On 7/2/05, Victor Brilon <victor (AT) victorland (DOT) com> wrote:
>
>> I'll check the Opera version later today. If anyone wants to set up a
>> small (and I do mean small, the browser chokes on huge pages) test
>> that I can point to, I'd be happy to do that.
>>
>
> You could give ExBrowse2 a shot :)
>

What functionality of it depends on XMLHttpRequest? That should be
easy to test.

Victor

Jacob Potter
2005-07-02, 12:03
On 7/2/05, Victor Brilon <victor (AT) victorland (DOT) com> wrote:
> What functionality of it depends on XMLHttpRequest? That should be
> easy to test.

Pretty much everything. You'll get an "error creating XMLHttpRequest"
alert box if it can't create the object.

- Jacob

Victor Brilon
2005-07-02, 12:13
On Jul 2, 2005, at 2:03 PM, Jacob Potter wrote:

> On 7/2/05, Victor Brilon <victor (AT) victorland (DOT) com> wrote:
>
>> What functionality of it depends on XMLHttpRequest? That should be
>> easy to test.
>>
>
> Pretty much everything. You'll get an "error creating XMLHttpRequest"
> alert box if it can't create the object.
>

Just tried it. I suspect that it's not fully supported. No errors,
but I only get part of the left hand frame to appear (with the album
list). The right frame is empty. And the top left frame says
"Loading...".

Victor

stinkingpig
2005-07-02, 14:13
Victor Brilon wrote:
>
> On Jul 2, 2005, at 2:03 PM, Jacob Potter wrote:
>
>> On 7/2/05, Victor Brilon <victor (AT) victorland (DOT) com> wrote:
>>
>>> What functionality of it depends on XMLHttpRequest? That should be
>>> easy to test.
>>>
>>
>> Pretty much everything. You'll get an "error creating XMLHttpRequest"
>> alert box if it can't create the object.
>>
>
> Just tried it. I suspect that it's not fully supported. No errors, but
> I only get part of the left hand frame to appear (with the album list).
> The right frame is empty. And the top left frame says "Loading...".
>
> Victor

Don't worry, it does that on a full browser too :) Seriously, a few
shift-reloads are often required to get past loading. Once you're in
it's generally functional, but still has some annoying bugs (like the
right frame not noticing that a new playlist has started to play, even
though it was selected from the left frame). No complaints, I've written
cross-browser JavaScript too and it's not a easy thing.

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