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Johnny Stork
2005-06-16, 19:58
Yeah I power cycled, and the netowkr connections apprears fine, can browse music, search and its bridged to a Roku Picbridge and that works so it does not appear to be network related. The "hint" for me is the loss of the visualizations the same time the playback died.

-----Original Message-----
From: Maditude [mailto:Maditude.1qqx5z (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 5:59 PM
To: discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
Subject: [slim] Re: (no subject)



Johnny Stork Wrote:
> I just received my SB2 and it worked all of 10 minutes? Connected to
> 802.11g AP. no problem, WEP settings ok, set static IP, and it
> connects to
> the network, and I can browse music, select music etc. But no
> incrementing
> of the time for any playing song? The visualizations also disapeared
> the
> same time the sound stopped. I can click though "Now Playing but I
> dont
> get the options I could choose when first settign it up...like the
> spectrums etc? Also tried rebooting, no effect. SB2 streams through
> SPIDIF
> to a Musical Fidelity DAC21. Also running 6.0.2 of slimserver on
> rhel4
> Hoping we can get this working....real bummer to have it die after
> 10
> minutes or so.
>
Did you try power-cycling the SB2? I've had mine lock up on me once,
when I got carried away with the fast-forward button, and in an attempt
to make it stop fast-forwarding, hit the reverse button.

Have you tried anything else? Like plug it into a wired connection?
Does softsqueeze work? (The 6.02 software has a link to it at
http://localhost:9000/html/softsqueeze/applet.html. Or if you've got
winamp, you can try connecting to the URL
http://localhost:9000/stream.mp3 and see if that works...

(replace localhost in those urls with the appropriate address of your
slim server)


--
Maditude

dean
2005-06-16, 20:02
Is it possible that your computer firewall has blocked port 9000,
which streams the audio?

On Jun 16, 2005, at 7:58 PM, Johnny Stork wrote:

> Yeah I power cycled, and the netowkr connections apprears fine, can
> browse music, search and its bridged to a Roku Picbridge and that
> works so it does not appear to be network related. The "hint" for
> me is the loss of the visualizations the same time the playback died.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Maditude [mailto:Maditude.1qqx5z (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 5:59 PM
> To: discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
> Subject: [slim] Re: (no subject)
>
>
>
> Johnny Stork Wrote:
>
>> I just received my SB2 and it worked all of 10 minutes? Connected to
>> 802.11g AP. no problem, WEP settings ok, set static IP, and it
>> connects to
>> the network, and I can browse music, select music etc. But no
>> incrementing
>> of the time for any playing song? The visualizations also disapeared
>> the
>> same time the sound stopped. I can click though "Now Playing but I
>> dont
>> get the options I could choose when first settign it up...like the
>> spectrums etc? Also tried rebooting, no effect. SB2 streams through
>> SPIDIF
>> to a Musical Fidelity DAC21. Also running 6.0.2 of slimserver on
>> rhel4
>> Hoping we can get this working....real bummer to have it die after
>> 10
>> minutes or so.
>>
>>
> Did you try power-cycling the SB2? I've had mine lock up on me once,
> when I got carried away with the fast-forward button, and in an
> attempt
> to make it stop fast-forwarding, hit the reverse button.
>
> Have you tried anything else? Like plug it into a wired connection?
> Does softsqueeze work? (The 6.02 software has a link to it at
> http://localhost:9000/html/softsqueeze/applet.html. Or if you've got
> winamp, you can try connecting to the URL
> http://localhost:9000/stream.mp3 and see if that works...
>
> (replace localhost in those urls with the appropriate address of your
> slim server)
>
>
> --
> Maditude
>

kdf
2005-06-16, 20:07
Quoting Johnny Stork <stork (AT) openenterprise (DOT) ca>:

> Yeah I power cycled, and the netowkr connections apprears fine, can browse
> music, search and its bridged to a Roku Picbridge and that works so it does
> not appear to be network related. The "hint" for me is the loss of the
> visualizations the same time the playback died.

have you tried it without the picbridge plugged in? Remove it and run teh SB2
through setup again. A lack of information provided about the picbridge
hardware means there is no information on how slimserver (or SB2 bridging for
that matter) with that hardware. as such, its just not possible to offer
support with Roku hardware connected.

Also try Slimserver 6.1 nightly builds, and upgrade the firmware on the SB2 (you
could even try just press-and-hold brightness to reload the firmware you have
now as a good solid reset of everything.

I really think it is the bridging. Since bridging does tend to share certain
aspects of the connection, it may be that slimserver cannot tell the difference
between the SB2 and the emulator in the picbridge (assuming its connection is
much the same as soundbridge). This could leave the server unnable to
recognise the SB2 as SB2 and instead treat it like an older player (without
vis).

adding --d_client debug may shed some light on that part.
-kdf

Johnny Stork
2005-06-17, 10:50
nope, other sb1 works fine and access to the web interface is fine and
the fw rules allows all internal traffic

On Thu, 2005-06-16 at 20:02, dean blackketter wrote:

> Is it possible that your computer firewall has blocked port 9000,
> which streams the audio?
>
> On Jun 16, 2005, at 7:58 PM, Johnny Stork wrote:
>
> > Yeah I power cycled, and the netowkr connections apprears fine, can
> > browse music, search and its bridged to a Roku Picbridge and that
> > works so it does not appear to be network related. The "hint" for
> > me is the loss of the visualizations the same time the playback died.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Maditude [mailto:Maditude.1qqx5z (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 5:59 PM
> > To: discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
> > Subject: [slim] Re: (no subject)
> >
> >
> >
> > Johnny Stork Wrote:
> >
> >> I just received my SB2 and it worked all of 10 minutes? Connected to
> >> 802.11g AP. no problem, WEP settings ok, set static IP, and it
> >> connects to
> >> the network, and I can browse music, select music etc. But no
> >> incrementing
> >> of the time for any playing song? The visualizations also disapeared
> >> the
> >> same time the sound stopped. I can click though "Now Playing but I
> >> dont
> >> get the options I could choose when first settign it up...like the
> >> spectrums etc? Also tried rebooting, no effect. SB2 streams through
> >> SPIDIF
> >> to a Musical Fidelity DAC21. Also running 6.0.2 of slimserver on
> >> rhel4
> >> Hoping we can get this working....real bummer to have it die after
> >> 10
> >> minutes or so.
> >>
> >>
> > Did you try power-cycling the SB2? I've had mine lock up on me once,
> > when I got carried away with the fast-forward button, and in an
> > attempt
> > to make it stop fast-forwarding, hit the reverse button.
> >
> > Have you tried anything else? Like plug it into a wired connection?
> > Does softsqueeze work? (The 6.02 software has a link to it at
> > http://localhost:9000/html/softsqueeze/applet.html. Or if you've got
> > winamp, you can try connecting to the URL
> > http://localhost:9000/stream.mp3 and see if that works...
> >
> > (replace localhost in those urls with the appropriate address of your
> > slim server)
> >
> >
> > --
> > Maditude
> >

Johnny Stork
2005-06-17, 11:22
Unplugged picbridge, updated slimserver (6.1.0), upgraded fw 13,
disabled bridge, still finds slimserver no problem, can add songs/albums
etc, can start a song but the play time does not increment. Clearly does
not appear to be network related. Day two with no SB2, I am feeling
withdrawls now...sure hope this is fixable with having to return the
unit


On Thu, 2005-06-16 at 20:07, kdf wrote:

> Quoting Johnny Stork <stork (AT) openenterprise (DOT) ca>:
>
> > Yeah I power cycled, and the netowkr connections apprears fine, can browse
> > music, search and its bridged to a Roku Picbridge and that works so it does
> > not appear to be network related. The "hint" for me is the loss of the
> > visualizations the same time the playback died.
>
> have you tried it without the picbridge plugged in? Remove it and run teh SB2
> through setup again. A lack of information provided about the picbridge
> hardware means there is no information on how slimserver (or SB2 bridging for
> that matter) with that hardware. as such, its just not possible to offer
> support with Roku hardware connected.
>
> Also try Slimserver 6.1 nightly builds, and upgrade the firmware on the SB2 (you
> could even try just press-and-hold brightness to reload the firmware you have
> now as a good solid reset of everything.
>
> I really think it is the bridging. Since bridging does tend to share certain
> aspects of the connection, it may be that slimserver cannot tell the difference
> between the SB2 and the emulator in the picbridge (assuming its connection is
> much the same as soundbridge). This could leave the server unnable to
> recognise the SB2 as SB2 and instead treat it like an older player (without
> vis).
>
> adding --d_client debug may shed some light on that part.
> -kdf
>

kdf
2005-06-17, 11:32
Quoting Johnny Stork <stork (AT) openenterprise (DOT) ca>:

> Unplugged picbridge, updated slimserver (6.1.0), upgraded fw 13,
> disabled bridge, still finds slimserver no problem, can add songs/albums
> etc, can start a song but the play time does not increment. Clearly does
> not appear to be network related. Day two with no SB2, I am feeling
> withdrawls now...sure hope this is fixable with having to return the
> unit

hrm. I've never had this happen for me, so I'm really guessing here.
I'm sure it will turn out to be something simple.

What file types are you trying to play?
Is it getting stuck on similar tracks? same drive location, etc?

can you turn on d_source debug flag and then look at the log when you try to
play a track?

What you will see is the server looking for a valid playback command (in case of
transcoding), then the "track start event", which indicates the point in time
where the hardware should start producing audio.

Also worth trying, along the lines of possible client confusion, is to wipe the
prefs file, c:\program files\slimserver\slimserver.pref and let the server
start fresh, just in case something has been mixed up.

-kdf

Johnny Stork
2005-06-17, 13:16
Slimserver is running on RHEL4. I lost the player and restarted it, and
turned on the logging, mostly MP3 files but current test is with a wav,
its definatley not a particular song issue as its the same library that
is playing fine on my SB1. Below is some output from the SB2 when trying
to play a song. SB2 will find tracks, browse folders etc, will find
network, but starting to play the time does not increment?

2005-06-17 13:12:47.2405 00:04:20:05:b4:bf: Switching to mode play from
stop

2005-06-17 13:12:47.2415 openSong on: file:///mnt/Music/Music/Wav/Hard%20Rock/Nickelback/Silver%20Side%20Up/Too%20Bad.wav
2005-06-17 13:12:47.2455 openSong: getting duration 232.24, size 40967136, endian and offset 44 for file:///mnt/Music/Music/Wav/Hard%20Rock/Nickelback/Silver%20Side%20Up/Too%20Bad.wav
2005-06-17 13:12:47.2459 Setting maxBitRate for Squeezebox1 to: 0
2005-06-17 13:12:47.2461 Setting maxBitRate for Squeezebox1 to: 0
2005-06-17 13:12:47.2475 Setting maxBitRate for Squeezebox1 to: 0
2005-06-17 13:12:47.2477 Setting maxBitRate for Squeezebox1 to: 0
2005-06-17 13:12:47.2478 undermax = 1, type = wav, squeezebox2 = 00:04:20:05:b4:bf, lame =
2005-06-17 13:12:47.2480 checking formats for: wav-flc-squeezebox2-00:04:20:05:b4:bf
2005-06-17 13:12:47.2481 Checking to see if wav-flc-squeezebox2-00:04:20:05:b4:bf is enabled
2005-06-17 13:12:47.2481 enabled
2005-06-17 13:12:47.2482 checking formats for: wav-flc-*-00:04:20:05:b4:bf
2005-06-17 13:12:47.2483 Checking to see if wav-flc-*-00:04:20:05:b4:bf is enabled
2005-06-17 13:12:47.2483 enabled
2005-06-17 13:12:47.2484 checking formats for: wav-flc-squeezebox2-*
2005-06-17 13:12:47.2485 Checking to see if wav-flc-squeezebox2-* is enabled
2005-06-17 13:12:47.2486 enabled
2005-06-17 13:12:47.2486 checking formats for: wav-flc-*-*
2005-06-17 13:12:47.2487 Checking to see if wav-flc-*-* is enabled
2005-06-17 13:12:47.2488 enabled
2005-06-17 13:12:47.2488 Found command: [flac] -cs --totally-silent --compression-level-0 -- $FILE$
2005-06-17 13:12:47.2490 Setting maxBitRate for Squeezebox1 to: 0
2005-06-17 13:12:47.2491 Setting maxBitRate for Squeezebox1 to: 0
2005-06-17 13:12:47.2492 Matched Format: flc Type: wav Command: [flac] -cs --totally-silent --compression-level-0 -- $FILE$
2005-06-17 13:12:47.2493 openSong: this is an wav file: file:///mnt/Music/Music/Wav/Hard%20Rock/Nickelback/Silver%20Side%20Up/Too%20Bad.wav
2005-06-17 13:12:47.2494 file type: wav format: flc inrate: 1411.2 maxRate: 0
2005-06-17 13:12:47.2495 command: [flac] -cs --totally-silent --compression-level-0 -- $FILE$
2005-06-17 13:12:47.2498 Using command for conversion: "/usr/local/slimserver/Bin/i386-linux/flac" -cs --totally-silent --compression-level-0 -- "/mnt/Music/Music/Wav/Hard Rock/Nickelback/Silver Side Up/Too Bad.wav" & |
2005-06-17 13:12:47.2581 Streaming with format: flc
2005-06-17 13:12:47.2984 00:04:20:05:b4:bf New play mode: play
2005-06-17 13:12:47.3007 00:04:20:05:b4:bf: Current playmode: play


On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 11:32, kdf wrote:

> Quoting Johnny Stork <stork (AT) openenterprise (DOT) ca>:
>
> > Unplugged picbridge, updated slimserver (6.1.0), upgraded fw 13,
> > disabled bridge, still finds slimserver no problem, can add songs/albums
> > etc, can start a song but the play time does not increment. Clearly does
> > not appear to be network related. Day two with no SB2, I am feeling
> > withdrawls now...sure hope this is fixable with having to return the
> > unit
>
> hrm. I've never had this happen for me, so I'm really guessing here.
> I'm sure it will turn out to be something simple.
>
> What file types are you trying to play?
> Is it getting stuck on similar tracks? same drive location, etc?
>
> can you turn on d_source debug flag and then look at the log when you try to
> play a track?
>
> What you will see is the server looking for a valid playback command (in case of
> transcoding), then the "track start event", which indicates the point in time
> where the hardware should start producing audio.
>
> Also worth trying, along the lines of possible client confusion, is to wipe the
> prefs file, c:\program files\slimserver\slimserver.pref and let the server
> start fresh, just in case something has been mixed up.
>
> -kdf
>

kdf
2005-06-17, 14:13
Quoting Johnny Stork <stork (AT) openenterprise (DOT) ca>:

> 2005-06-17 13:12:47.2495 command: [flac] -cs --totally-silent
> --compression-level-0 -- $FILE$
> 2005-06-17 13:12:47.2498 Using command for conversion:
> "/usr/local/slimserver/Bin/i386-linux/flac" -cs --totally-silent
> --compression-level-0 -- "/mnt/Music/Music/Wav/Hard Rock/Nickelback/Silver
> Side Up/Too Bad.wav" & |
> 2005-06-17 13:12:47.2581 Streaming with format: flc
> 2005-06-17 13:12:47.2984 00:04:20:05:b4:bf New play mode: play
> 2005-06-17 13:12:47.3007 00:04:20:05:b4:bf: Current playmode: play

This is clearly the right conversion to be using for a WAV file. Are all your
tracks WAV format?

Is there more to this log? There was another user recently that was haivng an
issue, the log was not showing the Track Start Event in the d_source log. In
that case, however, the upgrade to 6.1 was enough to fix it. So far, from this
log, all look ok.

-kdf

Johnny Stork
2005-06-17, 14:25
Almost all tracks are mp3, but I just tried a couple wavs there.

On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 14:13, kdf wrote:

> Quoting Johnny Stork <stork (AT) openenterprise (DOT) ca>:
>
> > 2005-06-17 13:12:47.2495 command: [flac] -cs --totally-silent
> > --compression-level-0 -- $FILE$
> > 2005-06-17 13:12:47.2498 Using command for conversion:
> > "/usr/local/slimserver/Bin/i386-linux/flac" -cs --totally-silent
> > --compression-level-0 -- "/mnt/Music/Music/Wav/Hard Rock/Nickelback/Silver
> > Side Up/Too Bad.wav" & |
> > 2005-06-17 13:12:47.2581 Streaming with format: flc
> > 2005-06-17 13:12:47.2984 00:04:20:05:b4:bf New play mode: play
> > 2005-06-17 13:12:47.3007 00:04:20:05:b4:bf: Current playmode: play
>
> This is clearly the right conversion to be using for a WAV file. Are all your
> tracks WAV format?
>
> Is there more to this log? There was another user recently that was haivng an
> issue, the log was not showing the Track Start Event in the d_source log. In
> that case, however, the upgrade to 6.1 was enough to fix it. So far, from this
> log, all look ok.
>
> -kdf
>

kdf
2005-06-17, 16:13
ok, try loading a number of mp3's

have d_source on. press play.
if you dont see time advance, or hear sound, press FWD and see if that gets it
working on the second track.

If this fails, please zip up the log, file a bug report @
http://bugs.slimdevices.com and attach a sample file (just in case)
and attach a copy of the log.

-kdf

Johnny Stork
2005-06-17, 21:25
Ok sorry to everyone, but the problem was between the monitor and the
chair...me!! I didnt think to check firewall settings cause the SB1
worked fine, and so did the SB2 for the first 15 minutes or so, and it
WAS set to use the firewalled gateway!!! So logic would at least suggest
that it was not the problem. But a quick "cat /var/log/messages | grep
192.168.1.151", the ip of my SB2, turned up lots of entries to/from port
3483!! A quit rule on my gateway firewall and all is fine!!!

Thanks everyone for all your suggestions

On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 16:13, kdf wrote:

> ok, try loading a number of mp3's
>
> have d_source on. press play.
> if you dont see time advance, or hear sound, press FWD and see if that gets it
> working on the second track.
>
> If this fails, please zip up the log, file a bug report @
> http://bugs.slimdevices.com and attach a sample file (just in case)
> and attach a copy of the log.
>
> -kdf
>