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Apesbrain
2005-06-04, 15:16
I am very interested in Squeezebox2, but am unclear on whether it will support my RealRhapsody subscription. I know there is a third-party plugin (RealSlim) that allows Rhapsody to stream to the SB2, but I've seen some posts that imply that recent releases of Slimserver are incompatible with it.

Can anyone tell me the current status of Rhapsody support on SB2/Slimserver?

Thanks.

gorstk
2005-06-05, 04:46
Apesbrain wrote:
> I am very interested in Squeezebox2, but am unclear on whether it will
> support my RealRhapsody subscription. I know there is a third-party
> plugin (RealSlim) that allows Rhapsody to stream to the SB2, but I've
> seen some posts that imply that recent releases of Slimserver are
> incompatible with it.
>
> Can anyone tell me the current status of Rhapsody support on
> SB2/Slimserver?


I think the plugin was called realslim, and only worked with version 5
of the server.... which is not compatible with the squeezebox 2.

It is a 3rd party plugin, but I think I have heard that someone is
updating it for verion 6.

HTH

NHGuy
2005-06-05, 06:29
No, Squeezebox 2 does not support Rhapsody. Check out the latest review on CNET. The company will not state whether or not they intend to in the future. Buy a ROKU.

Christian Pernegger
2005-06-05, 10:29
Do you have to pollute each and every thread with your trolling?

- The sb2 does not at this point support Rhapsody.
- A third-party (=unofficial) plugin is in the works.
- It will be supported offically if / when it's feasible to do so

If Rhapsody support is important for you then you can either wait with
your purchase or look at another device. The Roku doesn't seem to be
much more than a rip-off of previous generation Slim Devices
technology to me, though. YMMV.

C.

NHGuy
2005-06-05, 11:05
Christian,
What did I say that wasn't accurate? Slim Devices does not support Rhapsody, nor have they said when they will. Is this incorrect?
So why is this pollution?

Christian Pernegger
2005-06-05, 12:51
> What did I say that wasn't accurate? Slim Devices does not support
> Rhapsody, nor have they said when they will. Is this incorrect?

Your statement that "the company will not state whether or not they intend to in
the future" was not technically incorrect, while its _tone_ is overly
aggressive / negative. It implies that Slim Devices is unwilling to
implement Rhapsody. That's not true.

Further, I find it rather inappropriate to repeatedly and persistently
recommending a direct competitor's product on a Slim Devices list. The
fact that it's always the same competitor's product might lead people
to believe that you're on their payroll. Somehow it'd fit with some of
their other business tactics. :)

C.

Robin Bowes
2005-06-05, 14:05
NHGuy wrote:
> Christian,
> What did I say that wasn't accurate? Slim Devices does not support
> Rhapsody, nor have they said when they will. Is this incorrect?
> So why is this pollution?

OK, let's see what you said:

> No, Squeezebox 2 does not support Rhapsody. Check out the latest
> review on CNET.

Accurate.

> The company will not state whether or not they intend to in
> the future.

Accurate, but doesn't tell the whole story.

> Buy a ROKU.

This is where you went wrong.

You have obviously decided that Rhapsody support is the single most
important issue for you and have decided that a Roku is the right
solution for you.

The OP may or may not come to the same conclusion for the same reasons,
but simply stating "Buy a Roku" is not objective or helpful.

Christian's is a more balanced response and worth repeating:

- The sb2 does not at this point support Rhapsody.
- A third-party (=unofficial) plugin is in the works.
- It will be supported offically if / when it's feasible to do so

R.
--
http://robinbowes.com

Apesbrain
2005-06-05, 14:41
From this forum thread, it does appear that people have been able to get the RealSlim plugin running with Slimserver 6.0.2.

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=14253&highlight=rhapsody

That's good news. Thanks.

gkokinos
2005-06-05, 18:53
I have realslim running w/ rhapsody v2 running with Slimserver v6 on both a Mac OSX as well as a windows box ; rhapsody running both locally and remote.

Without getting involved in a flame war, I do find a few things discouraging:

(1)The realslim plugin is a nice piece of work that was done by Vidur some time ago. However, it has always had a number of items that could greatly improve it.
(2)The reason he hasn't been able to continue development is that he is now employed by slimdevices and working on other projects.
(3)The fact that it's working again now was mainly because there was an (relatively) easy way to get it back running, and thankfully someone took the time to do it.
(4)If slimdevices was serious and/or had any real interest in providing official rhapsody support they could easily (one would suspect) redirect some resources to finishing off the plugin (especially since they have the developer in their employ).

In terms of rhapsody support, Sonos appears to be in the lead, but of course there are other significant issues with that platform in comparison to the slimserver.

The best thing about using the slimserver w/rhapsody is that it allows you to seamlessly create playlists that include both music from your ripped library as well as subscription tracks. It's the only device out there (as far as I know) where you can do that. Roku forces you to boot into one mode or the other.

Regardless, and despite my long time using and referring people to slimdevices products, I've been having to seriously consider finding a new solution. If we could get any official word from the company that either (a)they are working on or willing to commit some resources to finish off realslim, (b)have some other solution in the works, or (c)aren't interested it would be a big help.

I have to imagine that if Slim pays any attention to these boards its clear that there are many people using and attempting to use the squeezebox to play rhapsody content. I think it's about time that they stopped ignoring or sidestepping the issue and gave some additional detail behind their interest in supporting or not supporting rhapsody properly in the medium-long term.

-Steve

seanadams
2005-06-06, 09:27
Slim Devices (and our competitors, apparently) do not comment publicly on timelines for major features.

If one customer getting the wrong expectation from something he read on *** someone else's web site *** can turn into such a mess as this, imagine if Slim were here making promises about this and that on such a day, and then had to slip the schedule for whatever reason.

We do have a software roadmap:

http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?SoftwareRoadmap which

which states: "More audio sources - Do what it takes - formats, DRM, integration with external audio providers - to make sure our users are not limited in their listening options."

It's top priority right after "Stability" and "Ease of use".

That's all we have to say on the matter. Please subscribe to announce@lists.slimdevices.com if you want be notified when we have more formats supported.

mwphoto
2005-06-06, 10:07
Sean,

Is the roadmap wikipage a one off - or are you expecting to keep this long
term as statement of what is being worked on (in broad terms) which would of
course require it to be regularly updated as priorities etc change. I think
it could be very useful if maintained, but I wasn't sure of your intention.
.. .

Roadmap wikipage -> http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?SoftwareRoadmap

Malcolm

seanadams
2005-06-06, 10:24
Is the roadmap wikipage a one off - or are you expecting to keep this long
term as statement of what is being worked on (in broad terms) which would of
course require it to be regularly updated as priorities etc change. I think
it could be very useful if maintained, but I wasn't sure of your intention.


Some of the finer points are a bit out of date, but it's still an accurate overall picture. We'll see about updating it.

gkokinos
2005-06-09, 20:24
Sean - how about you guys just keep on improving the product and leave the roadmap as is :-).

Aside from Rhapsody support, one other thing I'd love to see is a remote option where album info is displayed on the remote. I have a number of squeezebox that are hidden away in a cabinet, it would be nice to have a table-top way of seeing/controlling what's playing.

mherger
2005-06-09, 22:51
> Aside from Rhapsody support, one other thing I'd love to see is a
> remote option where album info is displayed on the remote. I have a
> number of squeezebox that are hidden away in a cabinet, it would be
> nice to have a table-top way of seeing/controlling what's playing.

That's why my PDA is always at hand.

--

Michael

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