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dean
2005-05-19, 21:29
Hi All,

Dan and I have set up three new discussion forums (and corresponding
email lists):

Beginners - A place for new users to come and ask questions and
learn more.

Beta - A place for those of us willing to try pre-release software
(nightlies, alpha and beta) to discuss issues and ideas.

SqueezeNetwork - A place to talk about our new always-on service.

See you there!

-dean

mherger
2005-05-19, 23:03
> Dan and I have set up three new discussion forums (and corresponding
> email lists):

You forgot the fourth: the "Deutsch" forum:

Deutsch - Das Forum um Fragen rund um SlimServer und Squeezebox zu stellen
und zu diskutieren, ohne stets ein Wörterbuch mit sich zu führen :-)

Gruss,

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Patrick Dixon
2005-05-20, 00:32
The trouble with having a beginner's forum/list, is that it relies on non-beginners to vist/read and answer the questions. But then the point of having a beginners forum/list is that non-beginners can safely ignore it, since it won't have much of interest ... or am I missing something?

JJZolx
2005-05-20, 00:48
The trouble with having a beginner's forum/list, is that it relies on non-beginners to vist/read and answer the questions. But then the point of having a beginners forum/list is that non-beginners can safely ignore it, since it won't have much of interest ... or am I missing something?

In a sense, you're right, but that's mostly in regard to the mailing list view. The veterans may not subsubcribe to the beginner list, but with a forum it's easy to visit any forum with just a mouse click. Also, you'd be surprised at how helpful and _willing_ to help beginners can with each other. It's really all about peer support - questions here really shouldn't be seen as directed to Slim Devices support, and right now only Slim Devices employees and a handful of other people have any genuine in-depth knowledge of how the software or hardware operate.
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CavesOfTQLT
2005-05-20, 01:02
Or change the newbie forum to a FAQ forum. What I mean here is that the forum, for its first post, has a FAQ sticky post listing issues, fixes & workarounds. If a newbie has a problem not covered by it then they post it to the forum. The forum software flags a new message available in that forum, giving the opportunity for non-newbies to go in and read it and suggest a fix/workaround. If this fix/workaround works then it's edited to the FAQ post and the associated posts deleted. Only downside with this is that depending upon how many 'problems' arose and in 'progress', it could mean that that forum would need a dedicated moderator just to keep on top of it all. Well, it was just an idea.

Craig, James (IT)
2005-05-20, 01:29
What's the difference between the 'developers' and 'beta' groups?

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Christian Pernegger
2005-05-20, 02:03
> What's the difference between the 'developers' and 'beta' groups?

When this question starts to crop up, what's the difference, where
should I post - that's a sign we have too many forums :)

Language specific forums are a great idea btw, since they allow some
users to safely skip content (they can't read anyway). Sadly, I do
speak German, so I'll have to subscribe to everything and the kitchen
sink either way.

Anyone mind telling me the new subscribe addresses?

Thanks,
C.

mherger
2005-05-20, 02:05
> What's the difference between the 'developers' and 'beta' groups?

I'd say on the developers list there are mainly folks actually developing.
And on the beta list there are those who test it. Developers would
subscribe to both, I guess.

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mherger
2005-05-20, 02:06
> The trouble with having a beginner's forum/list, is that it relies on
> non-beginners to vist/read and answer the questions. But then the
> point of having a beginners forum/list is that non-beginners can safely
> ignore it, since it won't have much of interest ... or am I missing
> something?

I guess that most users who are willing to support beginners (and actually
do) will subscribe to that list.

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mherger
2005-05-20, 02:17
Christian

> Language specific forums are a great idea btw, since they allow some

Could you please add this meaning to that unlucky first thread in the
"Deutsch" forum? And if you do so, please do it in german :-)

> users to safely skip content (they can't read anyway). Sadly, I do
> speak German, so I'll have to subscribe to everything and the kitchen
> sink either way.

Well, so did I.

> Anyone mind telling me the new subscribe addresses?

They are, as always, in the first (sticky) topic of the forum. For the
german forum it's:
http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/slimserver-de

Once you've subscribed, could you please test, whether you can reach the
forum by mail? I sent a mail this morning. And while I got it back on the
mailing list, it never showed up in the forum.

Dank und Gruss und so,

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mherger
2005-05-20, 02:22
> In a sense, you're right, but that's mostly in regard to the mailing
> list view. The veterans may not subsubcribe to the beginner list, but
> with a forum it's easy to visit any forum with just a mouse click.

That's an interesting point of vue. I thought rather that this lazy bunch
of forum users would never even go there ;-).

And, please, don't call me a veteran! :-)

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Marc Sherman
2005-05-20, 06:52
dean blackketter wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Dan and I have set up three new discussion forums (and corresponding
> email lists):

I'd love to see a Softsqueeze forum created; I'd say a full third of the
messages in Discuss are Softsqueeze-specific these days.

- Marc

Philip Downer
2005-05-20, 07:04
> Dan and I have set up three new discussion forums (and
> corresponding email lists):

Forgive me if I'm missing something obvious here, but where do I go to
subscribe to the email lists? I'm sure there used to be a page where I
could enter my e-mail address next to the relevant mailing list to
subscribe, but when I go to the mailing lists page now all I get is some
annoying forum thing. :oD

Phil

Marc Sherman
2005-05-20, 07:10
Philip Downer wrote:
>
> Forgive me if I'm missing something obvious here, but where do I go
> to subscribe to the email lists? I'm sure there used to be a page
> where I could enter my e-mail address next to the relevant mailing
> list to subscribe, but when I go to the mailing lists page now all I
> get is some annoying forum thing. :oD
>
> Phil
>

mherger
2005-05-20, 07:11
> Forgive me if I'm missing something obvious here, but where do I go to
> subscribe to the email lists?

There's a sticky thread at the top of every forum which contains the links.

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Christian Pernegger
2005-05-20, 07:16
Each list has its own page right now. I suggest that we should have
one page with checkboxes for all the mailing lists, like Debian has:

http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/subscribe

C.

Joe Craig
2005-05-20, 07:21
Are there or will there be RSS feeds for these forums?



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dean
2005-05-20, 07:34
On May 20, 2005, at 1:29 AM, Craig, James (IT) wrote:
> What's the difference between the 'developers' and 'beta' groups?
The "developers" forum is for people to discuss coding SlimServer
plugins and SlimServer itself.

The "beta" forum is for people who use the nightly and other pre-
release vesions to discuss issues with those versions.

Craig, James (IT)
2005-05-20, 07:39
That's what I thought - but is there not a huge overlap between the two
groups (dev/beta)?
Surely most people will end up reading/subscribed to both, not one or
the other?

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mherger
2005-05-20, 09:20
> Dan and I have set up three new discussion forums (and corresponding
> email lists):

I think the synchronization mail -> forum does not work. Several of my
posts have been delivered to the mailing list, but don't show up in the
forums.

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kdf
2005-05-20, 09:29
Quoting "Craig, James (IT)" <James.Craig (AT) morganstanley (DOT) com>:

> That's what I thought - but is there not a huge overlap between the two
> groups (dev/beta)?

if it makes some people start to think that maybe Beta is the more appropriate
place to post instead of Developers when all they seem to want is to seemingly
elevate the priority of their 'issue' by waving at the developers...its worth
it.

dev can now be for actual coding discussions, instead of support for those who
feel discuss doesn't have a fast enough response time.

-kdf

Craig, James (IT)
2005-05-20, 09:33
OK - now that's a very reasonable argument!

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Dan Sully
2005-05-20, 12:17
* Michael Herger shaped the electrons to say...

>>Dan and I have set up three new discussion forums (and corresponding
>>email lists):
>
>I think the synchronization mail -> forum does not work. Several of my
>posts have been delivered to the mailing list, but don't show up in the
>forums.

This has been fixed.

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dbls
2005-05-20, 15:00
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christian Pernegger"

Each list has its own page right now. I suggest that we should have
one page with checkboxes for all the mailing lists...
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I'll second this, since all the email addresses and passwords
are almost certainly going to be the same; also, it makes it
handy to see which lists one has enrolled in at a glance.

-:- dblls