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shaboyi
2005-05-01, 11:15
I am having trouble with the 'official' 6.0.2 version (W2K PIII).
Every so often the slim.exse process just wigs out, maxing out the CPU
and just lingering in that state. No scans, no other interaction,
except playing music. Restarting the server works, but then it starts
doing it again.

Should I back out to 6.0.1 (which I did not see this on) or is there a
more stable version since 6.0.2?

Thx.

kdf
2005-05-01, 11:32
Quoting Charles Stanton <shaboyi (AT) gmail (DOT) com>:

> I am having trouble with the 'official' 6.0.2 version (W2K PIII).
> Every so often the slim.exse process just wigs out, maxing out the CPU
> and just lingering in that state. No scans, no other interaction,
> except playing music. Restarting the server works, but then it starts
> doing it again.

6.0.2 should be fairly stable (vs 6.0.1, based of course on reported bugs). are
you using musicmagic? if not, are you able to find repeatable process to
trigger the cpu usage? do web page refreshes make it happen sooner?

-kdf

shaboyi
2005-05-01, 11:42
The installation is using musicmagic, but nothing has been added to
the library (i followed that earlier issue, but have not seen that -
or maybe this is that - but I have done the same installations a
couple of times now without that issue.).

Also, as I install these, this is not mine per se, but a customers.
I can access their server remotely and see what is going on, but I
don't know about the customers actual behavior. More info: there are
three wired squeezeboxes, not synched. Thx as always.

On 5/1/05, kdf <slim-mail (AT) deane-freeman (DOT) com> wrote:
> Quoting Charles Stanton <shaboyi (AT) gmail (DOT) com>:
>
> > I am having trouble with the 'official' 6.0.2 version (W2K PIII).
> > Every so often the slim.exse process just wigs out, maxing out the CPU
> > and just lingering in that state. No scans, no other interaction,
> > except playing music. Restarting the server works, but then it starts
> > doing it again.
>
> 6.0.2 should be fairly stable (vs 6.0.1, based of course on reported bugs). are
> you using musicmagic? if not, are you able to find repeatable process to
> trigger the cpu usage? do web page refreshes make it happen sooner?
>
> -kdf
>

shaboyi
2005-05-01, 11:45
I forgot to mention, the other installations (4 all together, with mm,
are on 6.0.1, not 0.2).

On 5/1/05, Charles Stanton <shaboyi (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
> The installation is using musicmagic, but nothing has been added to
> the library (i followed that earlier issue, but have not seen that -
> or maybe this is that - but I have done the same installations a
> couple of times now without that issue.).
>
> Also, as I install these, this is not mine per se, but a customers.
> I can access their server remotely and see what is going on, but I
> don't know about the customers actual behavior. More info: there are
> three wired squeezeboxes, not synched. Thx as always.
>
> On 5/1/05, kdf <slim-mail (AT) deane-freeman (DOT) com> wrote:
> > Quoting Charles Stanton <shaboyi (AT) gmail (DOT) com>:
> >
> > > I am having trouble with the 'official' 6.0.2 version (W2K PIII).
> > > Every so often the slim.exse process just wigs out, maxing out the CPU
> > > and just lingering in that state. No scans, no other interaction,
> > > except playing music. Restarting the server works, but then it starts
> > > doing it again.
> >
> > 6.0.2 should be fairly stable (vs 6.0.1, based of course on reported bugs). are
> > you using musicmagic? if not, are you able to find repeatable process to
> > trigger the cpu usage? do web page refreshes make it happen sooner?
> >
> > -kdf
> >

kdf
2005-05-01, 11:58
Quoting Charles Stanton <shaboyi (AT) gmail (DOT) com>:

> The installation is using musicmagic, but nothing has been added to
> the library (i followed that earlier issue, but have not seen that -
> or maybe this is that - but I have done the same installations a
> couple of times now without that issue.).
>
--d_musicmagic will help to confirm that, but it is a startup trigger, so you'd
need command-line startup to confirm from the logs. The 6.1 builds have the
added feature that you can workaround this problem by setting the reload
interval to 0.

if you can report the MMM version numbers on the installations, that helps too.
I'm not really sure why 6.0.1 might be working where 6.0.2 does not, since this
seems to be the scan as triggered by a result from musicmagic that I was not
expecting. It would be nice to be able to confirm the cause before you do
revert. That way, it gives a scope for comparison and we can nix this problem
before 6.1

-kdf

shaboyi
2005-05-01, 12:07
mm is 1.1.4.

I'll do the debug, but first a dumb question. How do I do the -d_musicmagic?

- Stop the service
- from dos go to the slim.exe directory
- then run slim.exe -d_musicmagic ?

On 5/1/05, kdf <slim-mail (AT) deane-freeman (DOT) com> wrote:
> Quoting Charles Stanton <shaboyi (AT) gmail (DOT) com>:
>
> > The installation is using musicmagic, but nothing has been added to
> > the library (i followed that earlier issue, but have not seen that -
> > or maybe this is that - but I have done the same installations a
> > couple of times now without that issue.).
> >
> --d_musicmagic will help to confirm that, but it is a startup trigger, so you'd
> need command-line startup to confirm from the logs. The 6.1 builds have the
> added feature that you can workaround this problem by setting the reload
> interval to 0.
>
> if you can report the MMM version numbers on the installations, that helps too.
> I'm not really sure why 6.0.1 might be working where 6.0.2 does not, since this
> seems to be the scan as triggered by a result from musicmagic that I was not
> expecting. It would be nice to be able to confirm the cause before you do
> revert. That way, it gives a scope for comparison and we can nix this problem
> before 6.1
>
> -kdf
>
>

kdf
2005-05-01, 12:15
Quoting Charles Stanton <shaboyi (AT) gmail (DOT) com>:

> mm is 1.1.4.
>
> I'll do the debug, but first a dumb question. How do I do the -d_musicmagic?
>
> - Stop the service
> - from dos go to the slim.exe directory
> - then run slim.exe -d_musicmagic ?

that should do it :)

-k

shaboyi
2005-05-02, 05:19
kdf -

When I run that command, I get to this point and it hangs:

C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server>slim.exe -d_musicmagic
2005-05-02 08:12:49.0858 MusicMagic: Testing for API on localhost:10002
2005-05-02 08:12:49.4946 MusicMagic: Predixis MusicMagic Mixer. Version 1.1..4

Is there something else I should be doing?

One other thing on the Alarm feature (maybe I should start a new
thread) - is that after setting it, it then seems to randomly reset
itself to 12:00 AM (while retaining the other settings). Had a
customer really pissed as it worked a couple of days and then woke him
up at midnight (he goes to sleep at like 10). I have since duplicated
the behaviour. Thx.

On 5/1/05, kdf <slim-mail (AT) deane-freeman (DOT) com> wrote:
> Quoting Charles Stanton <shaboyi (AT) gmail (DOT) com>:
>
> > mm is 1.1.4.
> >
> > I'll do the debug, but first a dumb question. How do I do the -d_musicmagic?
> >
> > - Stop the service
> > - from dos go to the slim.exe directory
> > - then run slim.exe -d_musicmagic ?
>
> that should do it :)
>
> -k
>

kdf
2005-05-02, 09:40
Quoting Charles Stanton <shaboyi (AT) gmail (DOT) com>:

> Is there something else I should be doing?

What version of the server are you using? In both 6.1 and 6.0.2 is shoudl
timeout after 5 seconds if there is no reponse from musicmagic.

> One other thing on the Alarm feature (maybe I should start a new
> thread) - is that after setting it, it then seems to randomly reset
> itself to 12:00 AM (while retaining the other settings). Had a
> customer really pissed as it worked a couple of days and then woke him
> up at midnight (he goes to sleep at like 10). I have since duplicated
> the behaviour. Thx.

you should file a bug report with as much detail as possible. I've never sen
this myself, but then again, I never use the built-in alarm.

-kdf

shaboyi
2005-05-02, 11:58
6.0.2. will submit the bug report on the alarm. thx.

On 5/2/05, kdf <slim-mail (AT) deane-freeman (DOT) com> wrote:
> Quoting Charles Stanton <shaboyi (AT) gmail (DOT) com>:
>
> > Is there something else I should be doing?
>
> What version of the server are you using? In both 6.1 and 6.0.2 is shoudl
> timeout after 5 seconds if there is no reponse from musicmagic.
>
> > One other thing on the Alarm feature (maybe I should start a new
> > thread) - is that after setting it, it then seems to randomly reset
> > itself to 12:00 AM (while retaining the other settings). Had a
> > customer really pissed as it worked a couple of days and then woke him
> > up at midnight (he goes to sleep at like 10). I have since duplicated
> > the behaviour. Thx.
>
> you should file a bug report with as much detail as possible. I've never sen
> this myself, but then again, I never use the built-in alarm.
>
> -kdf
>

SF Tron
2005-05-04, 21:34
Charles,

I'm with you. It seems every 6.x release constantly maxes out CPU and
freezes my machine. I've almost given up on trying to run the
slimserver on XP SP2.

Now also the slim process randomly crashes when navigating songs on
the squeezebox.

-Allen


On 5/1/05, Charles Stanton <shaboyi (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
> I am having trouble with the 'official' 6.0.2 version (W2K PIII).
> Every so often the slim.exse process just wigs out, maxing out the CPU
> and just lingering in that state. No scans, no other interaction,
> except playing music. Restarting the server works, but then it starts
> doing it again.
>
> Should I back out to 6.0.1 (which I did not see this on) or is there a
> more stable version since 6.0.2?
>
> Thx.
>

Aaron Zinck
2005-05-05, 08:54
Allen,

The great thing about this community is that, unlike with most other
software products, when something's not working you have a bunch of folks
who want to fix the problems in the software and are relying on folks like
you to find the bugs. So...rather than just giving up how about helping out
the community and sending some log files so that these things can get fixed.

SF Tron
2005-05-05, 12:24
Last night I reverted back to the 5.4.0 release. It's the *only*
release I've seen that is stable on XP SP2. I've tried almost every
one and all the 6.x releases.

I haven't almost give up on slimdevices, just running the slimserver
on XP. I feel like they just don't have a happy marriage so I was
contemplating putting everything on Linux to save myself some
headache. The problem is I put a high value on the iTunes integration
and not sure if I can get the slimserver on linux to communicate
smoothly to a XP iTunes installation. Any advice on this is
appreciated.

I'm happy to re-install 6.x and send any logs. If one can give me some
guidance on what information would be most helpful, let me know and
I'll forward on.

Thanks,

Allen

On 5/5/05, Aaron Zinck <azinck3 (AT) ufl (DOT) edu> wrote:
> Allen,
>
> The great thing about this community is that, unlike with most other
> software products, when something's not working you have a bunch of folks
> who want to fix the problems in the software and are relying on folks like
> you to find the bugs. So...rather than just giving up how about helping out
> the community and sending some log files so that these things can get fixed.
>
>
>

Dave Strickler
2005-05-05, 13:27
I switched from XPSP2 over to SuSE 9.2 Linux and it was a good
conversion. Since SlimServer is designed on Linux, all the Plug-Ins work
better (read: many work just as well, but some I couldn't get work under
XP work great under Linux).

I also use iTunes, and found that when you map a Linux drive using
Samba to an XP's drive letter, iTunes sees the drive just fine and you
can import all the tunes you need. What iTunes does is store it's
internal data to your "C:" drive, and that (as far as I know) can't be
moved. So, you really need to share that data with Linux. I have not
done this (yet).

In the mean time, I use iTunes as a 'client' for the SlimServer
'server', and it works great. Not as featured as the SB I have at work,
but all in all a good match.

Hope this helps,

Dave Strickler
MailWise LLC
617 267-0044 x810
www.mailwise.com


>>> sftron (AT) gmail (DOT) com 5/5/2005 3:24:58 PM >>>
Last night I reverted back to the 5.4.0 release. It's the *only*
release I've seen that is stable on XP SP2. I've tried almost every
one and all the 6.x releases.

I haven't almost give up on slimdevices, just running the slimserver
on XP. I feel like they just don't have a happy marriage so I was
contemplating putting everything on Linux to save myself some
headache. The problem is I put a high value on the iTunes integration
and not sure if I can get the slimserver on linux to communicate
smoothly to a XP iTunes installation. Any advice on this is
appreciated.

I'm happy to re-install 6.x and send any logs. If one can give me some
guidance on what information would be most helpful, let me know and
I'll forward on.

Thanks,

Allen

On 5/5/05, Aaron Zinck < azinck3 (AT) ufl (DOT) edu > wrote:
> Allen,
>
> The great thing about this community is that, unlike with most other
> software products, when something's not working you have a bunch of
folks
> who want to fix the problems in the software and are relying on folks
like
> you to find the bugs. So...rather than just giving up how about
helping out
> the community and sending some log files so that these things can get
fixed.
>
>
>

Craig, James (IT)
2005-05-06, 02:23
Allen,
Did I miss an explanation of what your problems were?
I am running a week (or maybe 2) old version of 6.1 on XP and almost all
of my iTunes problems are solved.
(the only one outstanding being the CPU usage when scanning very large
playlists)

James
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