PDA

View Full Version : Minimum hardware for a Linux SlimServer Host



cliveb
2005-04-27, 14:35
I'm thinking of putting together a dedicated server just to run SlimServer, and thought perhaps Linux might make a more robust (and cheaper) platform than Win2K.

I'm not that experienced with Linux, and have no idea what sort of hardware requirements such a setup might need. Given that it will dedicated just to SlimServer, would a 400MHz AMD K6/2 with 128MB RAM be man enough for the job? I happen to have that lying around.

max.spicer
2005-04-27, 14:44
I'm not that experienced with Linux, and have no idea what sort of hardware requirements such a setup might need. Given that it will dedicated just to SlimServer, would a 400MHz AMD K6/2 with 128MB RAM be man enough for the job? I happen to have that lying around.
More than man enough, I would have thought. People are apparently running it on Pentium 166s with 64MB of RAM.

malsbury
2005-04-27, 15:08
max.spicer wrote:

>cliveb Wrote:
>
>
>>I'm not that experienced with Linux, and have no idea what sort of
>>hardware requirements such a setup might need. Given that it will
>>dedicated just to SlimServer, would a 400MHz AMD K6/2 with 128MB RAM be
>>man enough for the job? I happen to have that lying around.
>>
>>
>More than man enough, I would have thought. People are apparently
>running it on Pentium 166s with 64MB of RAM.
>
>
I believe that most people running on the older Pentium systems would
likely be running non-gui installs or even headless systems. Not really
the place for a new linux user to start.

All that to say, my first linux install of slimserver was on a PII 450
with 128mb of RAM running a hard drive install of Knoppix and it worked
fine. I later rebuilt the same machine with Fedora Core 2 after a while
and that ran like a champ for months without ever touching it. The only
reason I retired that system was that I built a system to handle both
SlimServer and DVArchive which handles the video storage from my
ReplayTVs. When I did that I moved to Fedora Core 3 on a P4 1.6 w/ 512mb
RAM.

Tom Malsbury

pfarrell
2005-04-27, 17:40
On Wed, 2005-04-27 at 14:44 -0700, max.spicer wrote:
> cliveb Wrote:
> > dedicated just to SlimServer, would a 400MHz AMD K6/2 with 128MB RAM be
> > man enough for the job? I happen to have that lying around.
> More than man enough, I would have thought. People are apparently
> running it on Pentium 166s with 64MB of RAM.

Be careful.
The older Linux distributions were easy on hardware,
but many of the current and popular ones are adding
easy-to-use GUI wizards and all sorts of other stuff,
and their hardware requirements are much higher than in
the olden days.

Still, I happily ran SlimServer 5.4 on a P2-500,
altho one with lots of memory. The good news is that
RAM is cheap (maybe free if you ask arround), so you
can probably upgrade to 512 or so without much pain.

Look at the simplier distributions, like Knoppix,
rather than something like Mandrake or Fedora Core 2.

Pat


--
Pat
http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html

cliveb
2005-04-28, 01:47
Thanks to everyone for their suggestions. It looks like the simplest thing to do will be to just build it and see how well it works.

relen
2005-04-28, 03:22
My RH7.2-based NetMAX box, on which I ran SS 5.4.x and early v6 for a while as well as it being the house fileserver, is a 450MHz PII with 256MB RAM and I don't think it had any real trouble. While the box has XFCE on it, you couldn't bring up the SS web interface on it successfully, purely because Netscape 4.7 isn't new enough :) (but you could do it from a remote machine).

I'm on a 1.3GHz Celeron now with 256MB RAM running FC3, and Pat's certainly right that the newer versions of Linux have clever bits that load down the system - but you don't really have to install them. (However, I couldn't resist and I should probably double the RAM :) .)

daishan
2005-04-28, 04:10
On 4/27/05, cliveb <cliveb.1o62kn (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com> wrote:
>
> I'm thinking of putting together a dedicated server just to run
> SlimServer, and thought perhaps Linux might make a more robust (and
> cheaper) platform than Win2K.

Yea, more robust is the word.. :]

> I'm not that experienced with Linux, and have no idea what sort of
> hardware requirements such a setup might need. Given that it will
> dedicated just to SlimServer, would a 400MHz AMD K6/2 with 128MB RAM be
> man enough for the job? I happen to have that lying around.

The CPU should be enough, but the amount of RAM is on the low end.
This depends on the size of your music collection.. Larger collection
= Slimserver uses more RAM. With my >7K track collection, Slimserver
v6 uses roughly 40Mb of mem (If I read the output of ps correctly that
is.. =) )...

As you mention that it will be a dedicated server, please consider
running it without X. It's way more efficient, if a bit trickier to
administrate (you will actually have to know what you are doing.. ;-)
)..
Good luck!

Just my 5.
--
//daishan

Patrick Dixon
2005-04-28, 04:51
As you mention that it will be a dedicated server, please consider
running it without X. It's way more efficient, if a bit trickier to
administrate (you will actually have to know what you are doing.. ;-)

Not necessarily ;-)

I'm using CygwinX on a Windows XP box to administer my 'X-less' FC3 266MHz Thinkpad via ssh - and I have no idea what I'm doing most of the time! It seems to work OK, and the remote desktop actually seems more responsive than runing 'X' locally on the Thinkpad (not to mention the better monitor, keyboard & mouse).

cliveb
2005-04-28, 05:22
As you mention that it will be a dedicated server, please consider running it without X. It's way more efficient, if a bit trickier to administrate (you will actually have to know what you are doing.. ;-)
Well, although I have no Linux experience, until about 10 years ago I was pretty good with command line based System V Unix. So I will probably give that a bash.

I do have one follow-up question, though...
Since I'll need a stonking great hard disk to store all my FLACs, I'll have to install a 48-bit LBA capable controller. So which Linux distros support 48-bit LBA, and do they have any limitations as to which controllers they'll talk to?

pfarrell
2005-04-28, 08:49
On Thu, 2005-04-28 at 07:47 +0200, Michael Herger wrote:
> Is Knoppix simpler?

Probably a poor choice of wording on my part.
Knoppix a "live CD" is self contained, so it has to fit
in 700 MB.

I found Knoppix did a much better job of identifying
ancient hardware on my ancient laptop (from the last century).
And it happily installed a working configuration on
the laptop, which had only a 4 GB disk.

You lose many of the nice GUI management tools,
like MCC.

Of course, 'simple' is not really applicable to any full
blown operating system with utilities.

--
Pat
http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html

dSw
2005-04-28, 13:39
I have a similar question regarding the choice of hardware to use for my Linux-based Slimserver setup.

I'm building a living room machine that has two main purposes:

1) Run Slimserver (via crossover cable to Squeezebox 2)
2) Run Firefox (for occasional internet browsing on TV)

The OS will probably be Debian, or possibly Gentoo.

I've narrowed my choices down to the new VIA EPIA SP motherboards. The question is do I go for the SP8000 (800MHz EDEN, fanless) or the SP13000 (1.3GHz C3, fan cooled).

Obviously a fanless system would be better in the lounge but does anyone have any thoughts on whether an 800MHz EDEN would be powerful enough to run Slimserver and also cope with some internet browsing at the same time?

thanks

Dan Sully
2005-04-28, 13:47
* dSw shaped the electrons to say...

>I've narrowed my choices down to the new VIA EPIA SP motherboards. The
>question is do I go for the SP8000 (800MHz EDEN, fanless) or the
>SP13000 (1.3GHz C3, fan cooled).

You can replace the heatsink + fan combo with a Zalman northbridge heatsink
on the Epia boards - as long as your case isn't cramped.

* I take no responsibility if you fry your motherboard * - I'm running this config with no issues though.

-D
--
On second thought, let's not go to Camelot. It is a silly place.

mherger
2005-04-28, 22:54
[..]
> 1) Run Slimserver (via crossover cable to Squeezebox 2)
> 2) Run Firefox (for occasional internet browsing on TV)
>
> The OS will probably be Debian, or possibly Gentoo.
[..]
> Obviously a fanless system would be better in the lounge but does
> anyone have any thoughts on whether an 800MHz EDEN would be powerful
> enough to run Slimserver and also cope with some internet browsing at
> the same time?

I'd go fanless. I've been running an older C3/800 (Samuel?) for quite some
time with up to four clients (2xSB, 1xSliMP3, 1xslimp3slave), playing
music locally (and serving files, web and mail to the house)

--

Michael

-----------------------------------------------------------
Help translate SlimServer by using the
StringEditor Plugin (http://www.herger.net/slim/)