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2005-04-21, 05:57
Tom,

Thanks for your help. I managed to get it working - I think the final key
was forwarding to port 22 of the SSH server.

My system is using EVDO (wireless broadband) on a laptop, which enables me
to access my music collection almost anywhere within my hometown (and quite
a few other towns too). I'm excited about the ability to stream music
anywere (like my car, for instance). Sound quality seems great so far.

Tom

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[mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Thomas B.
Malsbury
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 8:21 AM
To: Slim Devices Discussion
Subject: Re: FW: [slim] Re: Problems/Frustration with Softsqueeze/SSH

tdmcgurk (AT) yahoo (DOT) com wrote:

>
>Sorry, but I can't find the help page you refer to. There's a
>"Softsqueeze SSH Tunneling Howto" that points you to how to set up a
>(generic) SSH Server, but doesn't address the steps necessary to make
>it and the slimserver work together on a Windows system.
>
>
I guess I will look those over again and make any need changes once we get
you up and running. They were posted with the release of SoftSqueeze 1.0,
not that much has changed in the SSH tunneling feature of SoftSqueeze2 but
I'm sure they could be refined.

>Sorry to reveal my ignorance (again), but your note raised a couple of
>questions for me:
>
>1) Which port on the Slimserver? My firewall won't forward to just an
>IP address, it needs a port number as well.
>
>
You need to set you router/firewall to forward Port 22 to the local network
IP address of of your XP box running SSH and Slimserver. You don't need to
forward any other ports through the firewall. The point of SSH tunneling
is that all traffic and ports needed are tunneled through the single open
and secure port.

>2) How does one set up the SSH config file? - it doesn't appear to be
>something that Notepad can handle.
>
>
It should be. It is just a generic text file that hold all the settings
that SSH uses when it starts up.

>3) I didn't realize that one could enter the IP address in the "SSH Server"
>box - it appears to be a dropdown with only one choice. Thanks to your
>note, though, I've put the right information in that box. I still
>can't connect, but I feel like I'm getting somewhere.
>
>
When you enter the IP address of the SSH Server, make sure that you are
using the IP address assigned to your WAN/Router by your ISP, not the IP
address of the XP box on your local network.

Let me know if any of that was helpful. If not, don't worry we'll get it.
Lots of people use this feature everyday so it is just a matter of trouble
shooting your setup and getting you enjoying your music collection from
anywhere with an internet connection.

Tom Malsbury

malsbury
2005-04-21, 06:10
tdmcgurk (AT) yahoo (DOT) com wrote:

>Tom,
>
>Thanks for your help. I managed to get it working - I think the final key
>was forwarding to port 22 of the SSH server.
>
>My system is using EVDO (wireless broadband) on a laptop, which enables me
>to access my music collection almost anywhere within my hometown (and quite
>a few other towns too). I'm excited about the ability to stream music
>anywere (like my car, for instance). Sound quality seems great so far.
>
>Tom
>
>
You might be interested in an EVDO project that I saw all over the tech
blogs yesterday.

http://moro.fbrtech.com/~tora/EVDO/index.html

Almost makes me want to go out and sign up for the service just to be
able to build on of these ;)

Glad to here you got SoftSqueeze up and running. If you wouldn't mind
giving some feedback on the SSH-How-to so I can make them clearer for
any future users that would be great.

Tom Malsbury

2005-04-21, 07:09
Tom,

I saw that the other day. It looks very exciting.

Imagine, with just a little interface work we'll be at the point where a
laptop-type device will be *really* useful in automobiles. It could replace
or greatly enhance dedicated entertainment systems (wouldn't it be great to
be able to access your entire collection over a broadband connection?) and
GPS/Nav systems (with the added benefit of having them up-to-date,
interactive and made more useful by the addition of real-time traffic data.)
Heck, shouldn't there be a system whereby one can quickly send out a notice
of an accident or a traffic slowdown that will instantly pop up on the
moving maps of other similarly-equipped drivers? Or perhaps one could
automatically upload telemetry data that'd be aggregated and processed to
generate maps that display traffic speed for everyone, and that data would
be used to compute course changes if more efficient routes were available?
The possibilities are endless, and boggle the mind.

W/r/t the how-to, I'd suggest that three things be addressed in a
step-by-step manner.

1) Finding, downloading, installing and setting up the SSH server on an XP
system. There's a lot of command-line stuff that's not very clear to your
typical GUI-user. A small example - the "-l" flag sure looks like "- ONE".
If you're not messing with this stuff every day, that little issue could
shut you down completely. Also, I believe that the accounts/password
transfer examples are written for an NT system - the steps don't line up
exactly for XP.
2) Configuring a (typical) firewall for access. You witnessed my struggles
here, which could be avoided by a simple picture (or clear examples like
"put 22 in the box for forwarding port".) Typical users would even struggle
to determine the IP address of the machine running the slimserver - it might
help to lay out a way to find that information easily (is that obtainable in
some way other than resetting a SB and walking through the setup manually?)
3) Configuring softsqueeze to access the slimserver. A screenshot would be
nice, but even a box-by-box walkthrough would be helpful.

The biggest problem from my perspective was that every resource I found for
setting up SSH and/or the softsqueeze assumed that one had a strong working
knowledge of UNIX, and therefore skipped over, or gave very cursory
treatment to, steps that would be obvious to someone with that background.

As always, just my $.02.

Best,
Tom


-----Original Message-----
From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
[mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Thomas B.
Malsbury
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 9:10 AM
To: Slim Devices Discussion
Subject: Re: FW: [slim] Re: Problems/Frustration with Softsqueeze/SSH

tdmcgurk (AT) yahoo (DOT) com wrote:

>Tom,
>
>Thanks for your help. I managed to get it working - I think the final
>key was forwarding to port 22 of the SSH server.
>
>My system is using EVDO (wireless broadband) on a laptop, which enables
>me to access my music collection almost anywhere within my hometown
>(and quite a few other towns too). I'm excited about the ability to
>stream music anywere (like my car, for instance). Sound quality seems
great so far.
>
>Tom
>
>
You might be interested in an EVDO project that I saw all over the tech
blogs yesterday.

http://moro.fbrtech.com/~tora/EVDO/index.html

Almost makes me want to go out and sign up for the service just to be able
to build on of these ;)

Glad to here you got SoftSqueeze up and running. If you wouldn't mind
giving some feedback on the SSH-How-to so I can make them clearer for any
future users that would be great.

Tom Malsbury