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relen
2005-04-17, 04:05
I've saved internet radio stations in playlists for easy access and this works fine in all cases except Live365.

I'm a VIP user for ad-free listening and I presume that saving a radio station in a playlist simply saves the current URL. In the case of a VIP login to a Live365 station, this URL has your unique login session info embedded in it, and if you just keep using it, after a while (a few days) the session ID times out and you get a recorded message telling you so.

This is how the saved playlist behaves, so I assume this is why.

I can't imagine that there is any sensible way around this. Instead of saving the current URL, you would have to send some kind of string with actual login information in it, ie what the Internet Radio plugin does now when you access a station and you have your login and password saved on the server.

This means that basically the quickest way of listening to Live365 stations with a VIP account is to have them in your favorites list at Live365 and access them via the Internet Radio plugin interface. A few more button-presses, but it works!

--Richard E

Roy Owen
2005-04-17, 04:37
Yup, that's what I do too. Although I really only have one station that I
listen to.

On 4/17/05, relen <relen.1nmqqn (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com> wrote:
>
>
> I've saved internet radio stations in playlists for easy access and this
> works fine in all cases except Live365.
>
> I'm a VIP user for ad-free listening and I presume that saving a radio
> station in a playlist simply saves the current URL. In the case of a
> VIP login to a Live365 station, this URL has your unique login session
> info embedded in it, and if you just keep using it, after a while (a
> few days) the session ID times out and you get a recorded message
> telling you so.
>
> This is how the saved playlist behaves, so I assume this is why.
>
> I can't imagine that there is any sensible way around this. Instead of
> saving the current URL, you would have to send some kind of string with
> actual login information in it, ie what the Internet Radio plugin does
> now when you access a station and you have your login and password
> saved on the server.
>
> This means that basically the quickest way of listening to Live365
> stations with a VIP account is to have them in your favorites list at
> Live365 and access them via the Internet Radio plugin interface. A few
> more button-presses, but it works!
>
> --Richard E
>
> --
> relen
>

Jim
2005-04-17, 07:53
relen wrote:
> This means that basically the quickest way of listening to Live365
> stations with a VIP account is to have them in your favorites list at
> Live365 and access them via the Internet Radio plugin interface. A few
> more button-presses, but it works!

I really feel that the Live365 web interface is the best way to select
stations from the service in general, but I take your point about extra
button presess... I'm working on another big thing for Live365, but I've
got an idea.

Jim

Jim
2005-04-25, 12:52
I didn't write this!

I presume this is a bug with the post to forum via email feature?


relen wrote:
> This means that basically the quickest way of listening to Live365
> stations with a VIP account is to have them in your favorites list at
> Live365 and access them via the Internet Radio plugin interface. A few
> more button-presses, but it works!

I really feel that the Live365 web interface is the best way to select
stations from the service in general, but I take your point about extra
button presess... I'm working on another big thing for Live365, but I've
got an idea.

Jim

Jim
2005-04-27, 17:22
No, I wrote it.

Jim wrote:
> I didn't write this!
>
> I presume this is a bug with the post to forum via email feature?
>
> Jim Wrote:
>
>>relen wrote:
>>
>>>This means that basically the quickest way of listening to Live365
>>>stations with a VIP account is to have them in your favorites list
>>
>>at
>>
>>>Live365 and access them via the Internet Radio plugin interface. A
>>
>>few
>>
>>>more button-presses, but it works!
>>
>>I really feel that the Live365 web interface is the best way to select
>>
>>stations from the service in general, but I take your point about extra
>>
>>button presess... I'm working on another big thing for Live365, but
>>I've
>>got an idea.
>>
>>Jim
>
>
>

relen
2005-04-28, 02:15
Well, I'm glad that's settled...

I also notice that a VIP session will expire after the same kind of time period, whether you listen to a stream for the whole time or not. For example, I listen to one staton at work using their player, and I leave the player open (but stopped) on the desktop overnight. Soon after I started listening this morning, the audio went off and a dialogue box appeared telling me the session had expired and did I want to continue listening. I clicked 'OK' and the audio came back - it had presumably logged in again for me.

This suggests that it might be useful if the Live365 plugin automatically logged out and immediately back in from time to time, say every couple of days.

Perhaps it could save its own playlists for easy access to individual stations, but keep track of them and update them with new session data at the same time?

Just an idea...

--Richard E

Brian B
2005-04-28, 06:26
relen wrote:[color=blue]
I'm working on another big thing for Live365, but I've
got an idea.

Jim

I would jump for joy if this involves MP3-Pro. I've been trying to find a solution with no luck at all.

Jim
2005-04-28, 20:18
Brian B wrote:
> Jim Wrote:
>
>>relen wrote:[color=blue]
>>I'm working on another big thing for Live365, but I've
>>got an idea.
>>
>>Jim
>
>
> I would jump for joy if this involves MP3-Pro. I've been trying to find
> a solution with no luck at all.

Dean would know all the details better than I would, but MP3pro requires
a license, and no doubt royalties. Yuck.

J