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Chris Glushko
2005-04-14, 20:13
I'm setting up Slimserver 6 in eager anticipation of
my SB2 arriving tomorrow. Would anyone mind answering
a couple simple questions so I don't have to bug the
guys at Slim?

1) The iTunes plugin that came w/ 6.01 does not do the
same thing as James Craig's plugin, does it?

2) In the "File Types" section of the server settings
I noticed that WAV is checked to stream as WAV and
checked to stream as FLAC. Apple Lossless is checked
to stream as FLAC and checked to stream as AIFF. AIFF
is checked to stream as AIFF and checked to stream as
FLAC. Shouldn't only one box per file type be
checked? Is there any reason for both to be checked?

Thanks,

Chris

kdf
2005-04-14, 20:32
Quoting Chris Glushko <chopcg (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>:

> I'm setting up Slimserver 6 in eager anticipation of
> my SB2 arriving tomorrow. Would anyone mind answering
> a couple simple questions so I don't have to bug the
> guys at Slim?
>
> 1) The iTunes plugin that came w/ 6.01 does not do the
> same thing as James Craig's plugin, does it?

No. the included plugin is the iTunes import, for bringing in playlists and
song data if you use itunes to manage your music. James's plugin is the itunes
updater to put data back into itunes, such as number of times a song is played.

>
> 2) In the "File Types" section of the server settings
> I noticed that WAV is checked to stream as WAV and
> checked to stream as FLAC. Apple Lossless is checked
> to stream as FLAC and checked to stream as AIFF. AIFF
> is checked to stream as AIFF and checked to stream as
> FLAC. Shouldn't only one box per file type be
> checked? Is there any reason for both to be checked?

This is the server settings. The idea of this is to handle the enable and
disable of ALL format translations possible. Slimp3, Squeezebox and
Squeezebox2 all have different preferred formats (mp3, wav, flac respectively)
so this page allows you to manage all types.

Player settings->audio has a setting for bitrate limiting if you want to ever
force a particular client (such as a remote softsqueeze client) to use lower
bandwidth mp3 only). If you know you will never have need of wav->mp3, etc
then you can choose to disable them. Format conversions that fail to find
required binaries are automatically disabled (another reason for this page, a
status)

hope that helps,
kdf

Chris Glushko
2005-04-14, 20:41
> > 2) In the "File Types" section of the server
> settings
> > I noticed that WAV is checked to stream as WAV and
> > checked to stream as FLAC. Apple Lossless is
> checked
> > to stream as FLAC and checked to stream as AIFF.
> AIFF
> > is checked to stream as AIFF and checked to stream
> as
> > FLAC. Shouldn't only one box per file type be
> > checked? Is there any reason for both to be
> checked?
>
> This is the server settings. The idea of this is to
> handle the enable and
> disable of ALL format translations possible.
> Slimp3, Squeezebox and
> Squeezebox2 all have different preferred formats
> (mp3, wav, flac respectively)
> so this page allows you to manage all types.
>
> Player settings->audio has a setting for bitrate
> limiting if you want to ever
> force a particular client (such as a remote
> softsqueeze client) to use lower
> bandwidth mp3 only). If you know you will never
> have need of wav->mp3, etc
> then you can choose to disable them. Format
> conversions that fail to find
> required binaries are automatically disabled
> (another reason for this page, a
> status)

I understand that, but why is everything checked to be
converted to both FLAC and PCM? Does the SB2 simply
defaut to stream in FLAC if both are checked? I would
think each file type would have one check pending on
whether you want to stream as MP3, FLAC or PCM.

kdf
2005-04-14, 20:50
Quoting Chris Glushko <chopcg (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>:

> > > 2) In the "File Types" section of the server
> > settings
> > > I noticed that WAV is checked to stream as WAV and
> > > checked to stream as FLAC. Apple Lossless is
> > checked
> > > to stream as FLAC and checked to stream as AIFF.
> > AIFF
> > > is checked to stream as AIFF and checked to stream
> > as
> > > FLAC. Shouldn't only one box per file type be
> > > checked? Is there any reason for both to be
> > checked?
> >
> > This is the server settings. The idea of this is to
> > handle the enable and
> > disable of ALL format translations possible.
> > Slimp3, Squeezebox and
> > Squeezebox2 all have different preferred formats
> > (mp3, wav, flac respectively)
> > so this page allows you to manage all types.
> >
> > Player settings->audio has a setting for bitrate
> > limiting if you want to ever
> > force a particular client (such as a remote
> > softsqueeze client) to use lower
> > bandwidth mp3 only). If you know you will never
> > have need of wav->mp3, etc
> > then you can choose to disable them. Format
> > conversions that fail to find
> > required binaries are automatically disabled
> > (another reason for this page, a
> > status)
>
> I understand that, but why is everything checked to be
> converted to both FLAC and PCM? Does the SB2 simply
> defaut to stream in FLAC if both are checked? I would
> think each file type would have one check pending on
> whether you want to stream as MP3, FLAC or PCM.

it is checked becuase that conversion is enabled. each player will request its
supported formats in order of preference. In the case of SB2, it will ask for
FLAC first, followed by PCM then MP3 if all else fails. the server still has
PCM conversions becuase the server can still support SB1's which support only
PCM and MP3. Server settings are meant to handle global server options, not
just single players.

-kdf

shaboyi
2005-04-16, 05:21
>
> Player settings->audio has a setting for bitrate limiting if you want to ever
> force a particular client (such as a remote softsqueeze client) to use lower
> bandwidth mp3 only). If you know you will never have need of wav->mp3, etc
> then you can choose to disable them. Format conversions that fail to find
> required binaries are automatically disabled (another reason for this page, a
> status)

Question on the remote client comment (this is a performance question) -

If there is SB client that is only used as a remote controller via the
synch players feature and is not connected to an audio system at all
(for example a wireless SB in a room that is part of a multi-room
audio system), can you obtain some performance (network) improvements
by limiting bandwidth to that player -- assuming it does not affect
the player it is synched to?