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JayNYC
2005-04-09, 10:05
"Native FLAC support in the firmware; allows pure lossless CD audio transmission with reduced storage and bandwidth. "

Does this mean I should be able to "fast forward" when listening to FLACs using SB2?

kdf
2005-04-09, 10:14
Quoting JayNYC <JayNYC.1n8e2n (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com>:

>
> "Native FLAC support in the firmware; allows pure lossless CD audio
> transmission with reduced storage and bandwidth. "
>
> Does this mean I should be able to "fast forward" when listening to
> FLACs using SB2?
>

as individual tracks, yes. Full albums, split up via a cue sheet (internal or
external) still wont work for fwd or rewind just yet.

-kdf

windguy2
2005-04-09, 12:02
How about with Apple Lossless, can I fast forward?


On Apr 9, 2005, at 11:14 AM, kdf wrote:

> Quoting JayNYC <JayNYC.1n8e2n (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com>:
>
>>
>> "Native FLAC support in the firmware; allows pure lossless CD audio
>> transmission with reduced storage and bandwidth. "
>>
>> Does this mean I should be able to "fast forward" when listening to
>> FLACs using SB2?
>>
>
> as individual tracks, yes. Full albums, split up via a cue sheet
> (internal or
> external) still wont work for fwd or rewind just yet.
>
> -kdf
>

Dan Sully
2005-04-09, 12:07
* windguy2 shaped the electrons to say...

> How about with Apple Lossless, can I fast forward?

Apple Lossless must be transcoded on the server - so no.

-D
--
<dr.pox> wtf? a garbled dingbat makes java switch to DWIM?

kdf
2005-04-09, 12:08
Quoting windguy2 <windguy2 (AT) accesscomm (DOT) ca>:

> How about with Apple Lossless, can I fast forward?
>
apple lossless is still being transcoded by the server. thus, ffwd/rew does not
work for this format.
-kdf

JayNYC
2005-04-09, 22:58
Thank you for the fast reply. Is Fast Forward with FLAC using cue-sheets for entire albums going to be hardware dependent (ie: Squeezebox 3) or firmware dependent? If firmware, is there an ETA?

michael
2005-04-10, 19:54

JayNYC
2005-04-11, 06:04
Michael, did not get your post.

michael
2005-04-11, 18:13
reposting for JayNYC...

JayNYC <JayNYC.1nbs2b (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com> writes:

> Michael, did not get your post.

....

JayNYC <JayNYC.1n9dpz (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com> writes:

> Thank you for the fast reply. Is Fast Forward with FLAC using
> cue-sheets for entire albums going to be hardware dependent (ie:
> Squeezebox 3) or firmware dependent? If firmware, is there an ETA?

I suspect it's just a matter of teaching slimserver how to find the
right portion of the file to send to the sb2. If that's the case,
then it shouldn't require new/different hardware or firmware.
Again, this is just my guess.

-michael

JayNYC
2005-05-14, 15:54
Is there any ETA for Fast Forward and Rewind capability when playing from FLAC CueSheets?

JayNYC
2005-06-12, 22:40
BUMP

Any word when we will be able to fast fwd and rev when using Flac cuesheets?

sbjaerum
2005-06-12, 23:35
Is there any ETA for Fast Forward and Rewind capability when playing from FLAC CueSheets?

Please vote for bug 1426.

Steinar

JayNYC
2005-06-13, 00:44
I just voted. NICE. Now let's get some more folks to vote. C'mon guys, don't you want to sit back and fly through your FLACs in CueSheets to get to the GOOD PART of the song to demo your system?

JayNYC
2005-07-09, 06:39
What is the best way to bribe the developers into doing this sooner rather than later? Etymotic headphones from Headphone.com? Amazon.com gift certificates? Paypal? My one measily vote in Bugzilla isn't going to get me anywhere with this :-)

kdf
2005-07-09, 13:37
Quoting JayNYC <JayNYC.1rwn0n (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com>:

>
> What is the best way to bribe the developers into doing this sooner
> rather than later?

maybe....buy a LOT of squeezeboxen ;)

-kdf
(had to say it before Dean did)

Yannzola
2005-07-27, 16:36
I figured this was some sort of bug, but hadn't gotten around to bitching about it yet.

Could someone please explain this to me? Regardless of how long I press the FFwd/RW buttons while a (natively decoded) FLAC is playing, it always jumps to the next track. "Standard" behaviour is for a short tap to track across titles, and a prolonged hold to track inside the song... with play resuming once the button is lifted. In addition, some kind of progress bar + time stamp would come in handy.

Am I wrong? Does this feature indeed already exist? If so... uh... how do I get it to work?
Thanks!
y.




Quoting JayNYC <JayNYC.1n8e2n (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com>:

>
> "Native FLAC support in the firmware; allows pure lossless CD audio
> transmission with reduced storage and bandwidth. "
>
> Does this mean I should be able to "fast forward" when listening to
> FLACs using SB2?
>

as individual tracks, yes. Full albums, split up via a cue sheet (internal or
external) still wont work for fwd or rewind just yet.

-kdf

kdf
2005-07-27, 16:51
Quoting Yannzola <Yannzola.1suqsn (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com>:

>
> I figured this was some sort of bug, but hadn't gotten around to
> bitching about it yet.
>
> Could someone please explain this to me? Regardless of how long I press
> the FFwd/RW buttons while a (natively decoded) FLAC is playing, it
> always jumps to the next track. "Standard" behaviour is for a short tap
> to track across titles, and a prolonged hold to track inside the song...
> with play resuming once the button is lifted. In addition, some kind of
> progress bar + time stamp would come in handy.
>
> Am I wrong? Does this feature indeed already exist? If so... uh... how
> do I get it to work?

pressing FWD or REW skips tracks.
press-and-hold goes into scan mode, 2X 4X 8X etc.
play, pause, or stop get you out of scanning mode.
pressing the FWD/REW for teh opposite direction of the curent scanning also
breaks out of scanning mode.

The above functions should be working with FLAC files for the SB2, and mp3/wav
for any Squeezebox

There is no feature to hold scan until release.

If you have your now playing display set to show the time index or progress bar,
then that also updates according to the scan speed.

if you want to navigate using a bar to a specific time index, then there is the
Song Scanner Plugin.

-kdf

-kdf

Yannzola
2005-07-27, 17:34
pressing FWD or REW skips tracks.
press-and-hold goes into scan mode, 2X 4X 8X etc.
play, pause, or stop get you out of scanning mode.
pressing the FWD/REW for teh opposite direction of the curent scanning also
breaks out of scanning mode.


Ah. Yes. User error it is.
This was probably all in the users manual, eh?... which in all the excitment... I ... uh... haven't actually looked at yet.

The above functions =seem= intuitive enough, yet I was stumped.



The above functions should be working with FLAC files for the SB2, and mp3/wav
for any Squeezebox


I wonder if I somehow missed it, or if I've run into some sort of bug on my end. I'll look into it tonight.


There is no feature to hold scan until release.[/QUOTE]

No prob.



If you have your now playing display set to show the time index or progress bar,
then that also updates according to the scan speed.

Aha! I'll give this a try... I think the lack visual feedback may have confused me.


if you want to navigate using a bar to a specific time index, then there is the
Song Scanner Plugin.

I still don't quite grok this plugin (haven't installed it yet). It allows you to create "bookmarks" inside of a song and to jump from one point to the other, right? Very cool. Now... if only you could save these "bookmarked" start/stop times on a track by track basis, you'd have a very clever solution to Bug#731 (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=731) while leveraging the existing UI.

y.

kdf
2005-07-27, 19:00
On 27-Jul-05, at 5:34 PM, Yannzola wrote:
>
> I still don't quite grok this plugin (haven't installed it yet). It
> allows you to create "bookmarks" inside of a song and to jump from one
> point to the other, right?

the Bookmark plugin is a way to save the current track with its current
time index intact. Mainly, this is for long audio books that you may
not play all in one sitting.

The Song Scanner plugin uses the BAR type input feedback, splitting the
current song into 100 parts so that you can have a very obvious UI
while you skip forward or backward to the specific place you want to
jump to in the playback.

> Very cool. Now... if only you could save these
> "bookmarked" start/stop times on a track by track basis, you'd have a
> very
> clever solution to Bug#731
> (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=731) while leveraging the
> existing UI.
>
The way the bookmark plugin stores the time index would be prohibitive
to store track by track. If the desire was to mark a start and stop
for just the current track, and loop it (for something like learning a
phrase of a guitar solo), the scanner plugin might not need too much
work. however, I'm given the impression that this is not what that bug
is after, nor does it seem like a plugin would be accepted as a
solution.

-kdf

Yannzola
2005-07-27, 23:33
The way the bookmark plugin stores the time index would be prohibitive
to store track by track. If the desire was to mark a start and stop
for just the current track, and loop it (for something like learning a
phrase of a guitar solo), the scanner plugin might not need too much
work. however, I'm given the impression that this is not what that bug
is after, nor does it seem like a plugin would be accepted as a
solution.

-kdf
Hmmmmm.... OK.
In the comments area of that bug, Dean mentions CUE sheets as a possible solution. How about a plugin (or whatever) that writes (or rewrites if one is already present ) a CUE sheet on the fly with a modified start and/or end time for the selected track(s)? SQ UI wise, you would simply enter the new start and/or end times using the keypad... the web interface could be fancier.

y.

JayNYC
2005-08-01, 16:21
So the isolated limitation here is FLAC using CueSheets... that's when fast FWD/REV functionality does not exist.

JayNYC
2006-03-15, 22:37
Any news on the ability to FF or RW when playing Cuesheets?

JayNYC
2006-08-08, 16:40
Okay.... any update on the ETA to when we'll be able to Fast Forward Cue Sheeted Flacs?

tommypeters
2006-08-09, 02:34
Seems like you'd better split those FLAC's into individual tracks...

JayNYC
2006-09-23, 19:12
hey tommy... do you know the automated way to split 248 FLAC+Cuesheet albums into individual tracks?

radish
2006-09-23, 21:09
hey tommy... do you know the automated way to split 248 FLAC+Cuesheet albums into individual tracks?

If you're running windows I'm sure foobar will do it without too much trouble.