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Steven Moore
2005-04-08, 07:17
I wonder if it would be possible to have a 'scan manually' option in
the server settings>itunes section This could comprise of 2 radio
buttons beside each other one for manual and the other for reload
interval with an input field.
At present I have itunes reload interval set very high (100000) in
order to avoid the server rescanning every time I use itunes to listen
to music. Whilst this works I think the other system will be clearer
for new users.
I still want the benefits of itunes integration namely playlists and
adding music via itunes (tagging etc) but not the continual rescanning.
Any thoughts?

Steven Moore

Craig, James (IT)
2005-04-08, 07:21
I am starting to share the same position as Steven,
my iTunes rescan takes about 90 seconds during which all players stop
(no music, no menus).

What does setting the interval to 0 do - could we have this as disabling
rescans if it doesn't already do so?

James

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Steven Moore
Sent: 08 April 2005 15:17
To: Slim Devices Discussion
Subject: [slim] itunes settings suggestion

I wonder if it would be possible to have a 'scan manually' option in
the server settings>itunes section This could comprise of 2 radio
buttons beside each other one for manual and the other for reload
interval with an input field.
At present I have itunes reload interval set very high (100000) in
order to avoid the server rescanning every time I use itunes to listen
to music. Whilst this works I think the other system will be clearer
for new users.
I still want the benefits of itunes integration namely playlists and
adding music via itunes (tagging etc) but not the continual rescanning.
Any thoughts?

Steven Moore

Craig, James (IT)
2005-04-11, 07:29
Setting it to 0 doesn't disable the scan in case anyone was wondering.

What's the --noscan parameter supposed to do ?
It certainly doesn't stop the initial scan.

James

-----Original Message-----
From: Craig, James (IT)
Sent: 08 April 2005 15:21
To: 'Slim Devices Discussion'
Subject: RE: [slim] itunes settings suggestion

I am starting to share the same position as Steven,
my iTunes rescan takes about 90 seconds during which all players stop
(no music, no menus).

What does setting the interval to 0 do - could we have this as disabling
rescans if it doesn't already do so?

James

-----Original Message-----
From: discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com
[mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com] On Behalf Of Steven Moore
Sent: 08 April 2005 15:17
To: Slim Devices Discussion
Subject: [slim] itunes settings suggestion

I wonder if it would be possible to have a 'scan manually' option in
the server settings>itunes section This could comprise of 2 radio
buttons beside each other one for manual and the other for reload
interval with an input field.
At present I have itunes reload interval set very high (100000) in
order to avoid the server rescanning every time I use itunes to listen
to music. Whilst this works I think the other system will be clearer
for new users.
I still want the benefits of itunes integration namely playlists and
adding music via itunes (tagging etc) but not the continual rescanning.
Any thoughts?

Steven Moore

KiwiGraham
2005-04-17, 06:08
Symptoms on my Mac have been even worse than a rescan just on iTunes startup. In addition to that a rescan seems to take place about once every 5 minutes if I have iTunes running (which is almost always coz other machines in the house want to share the iTunes library).

I can watch the cpu on the server machine max out to 100% for around 90 seconds and then there's about 5 seconds where music flow to any players is disrupted before play resumes and the cpu settles back down. (My partner swears at me when this happens!)

I have now implemented the above suggestion and set the rescan interval to a large number so hopefully I'll only get this interruption occasionally.

What seems to be needed is something that absolutely guarantees the rescan processing can't interrupt the broadcasting.

Dan Sully
2005-04-17, 09:34
* KiwiGraham shaped the electrons to say...

>Symptoms on my Mac have been even worse than a rescan just on iTunes
>startup. In addition to that a rescan seems to take place about once
>every 5 minutes if I have iTunes running.

Are you changing something in iTunes? The server will only rescan if the
iTunes .xml file has been updated. And it also waits for 60 seconds to see if
it's been updated again.

>What seems to be needed is something that absolutely guarantees the
>rescan processing can't interrupt the broadcasting.

http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1153

-D
--
<Nigel> Please refrain from fearing the reaper.

Jeff Moore
2005-05-10, 08:58
2005-04-17-12:34:44 Dan Sully:
> * KiwiGraham shaped the electrons to say...
> >What seems to be needed is something that absolutely guarantees the
> >rescan processing can't interrupt the broadcasting.
>
> http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1153

So, what I've been wondering is -- and no, I don't think I'm so
penetratingly brilliant that I'm thinking of something y'all haven't
probably been discussing for a long time, I just don't know what the
issues are -- are there any plans to put housekeeping things like iTunes
library scans in a separate process (or thread -- I'm old-fashioned and
not fully up on these "thread" things) running at a low priority while a
dedicated high-priority server process just serves music? Is this hard
to implement in an OS-independent way, or is there something
multi-process unsafe about the database used, or would it just be too
gigantic a change to get to soon, or is something like this already done
and I wouldn't recognize it if it hit me on the head?