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Max
2005-04-08, 06:24
Are there any helpful resources out there that would help me in the
daunting task of classifying all my newly-ripped music? I'm using EAC
to rip to FLAC, so I currently have the cddb genres set for most of my
music. However, these tend to be distinctly variable (Alanis Morissette
= folk, for example). I therefore need to go through and sanitize
everything, but in many cases I really don't have any idea what genre to
use. I want to be able to use genre's to tell SlimServer to play music
at random of a certain style, but working out what to call Pink Floyd,
Royksopp, Mark Knopfler etc is really quite difficult!

On a similar vein, what is Music Magic and Mood Logic? I think they
might be to do with this sort of thing, but I've a lot to learn!

Thanks,

Max

Chuck Pelto
2005-04-08, 07:18
Hi,

What is the url to be put into my browser in order to access SLIMP
which is running things on a different computer?

Regards,

Chuck

Steve Bernard, Jr
2005-04-08, 09:22
On Apr 8, 2005 9:24 AM, Max wrote:
> Are there any helpful resources out there that would help me in the
> daunting task of classifying all my newly-ripped music? I'm using EAC
> to rip to FLAC, so I currently have the cddb genres set for most of my
> music. However, these tend to be distinctly variable (Alanis Morissette
> = folk, for example). I therefore need to go through and sanitize
> everything, but in many cases I really don't have any idea what genre to
> use. I want to be able to use genre's to tell SlimServer to play music
> at random of a certain style, but working out what to call Pink Floyd,
> Royksopp, Mark Knopfler etc is really quite difficult!

I have an awful lot of trouble with this subject, myself, which is
basically because I only find music classification to be helpful in
the very broadest of terms, or for very specific matters. The last
thing I want to do is have to worry about where the line is between
folk and country, or jazz and fusion, or indie pop and indie rock, or
trance and goa, etc, when I'm just trying to get all of my music
tagged and set up on the SlimServer. I don't want to ever be in a
position of, "Now where is that artist? Are they hard rock or are
they metal?"

Consequently, I currently run with 4 genres: Xmas, Classical, Spoken
Word/Comedy, and General. This is not really a great setup, all
things considered, but the basic concept is that everything in General
I'm more or less happy to hear mixed in with or in sequence with
anything else, whereas I want the other three classifications not to
encroach on my usual listening habits unless I select them
specifically.

Now, if I wanted to look for an online resource for getting the genre
for specific acts, I'd head on over to http://www.allmusic.com/ They
have a pretty reasonable breakdown of top-level genres for Popular
Music and Classical Music (although 'Cajun' having its own top-level
all to itself is a bit puzzling), and there are countless Styles and
sub-Styles under each genre. So Pink Floyd, for example, is in the
main top-level genre 'Rock' and with styles like Prog-Rock/Art Rock,
Psychedelic, British Psychedelia, Hard Rock, etc. These are all
correct to varying degrees over the course of the band's career.

One option is to use SlimServer's ability to separate multiple items
in tags by adding both the top-level genre and one or more of the
styles which you think are appropriate. So you can have several
artists that all show up under 'Jazz', but they also show up
separately under 'Bop', 'Fusion', 'Swing', or whatever.

In my case I use a plus sign for a tag separator, so (back to Pink
Floyd) I could tag the songs on 'Piper at the Gates of Dawn' as 'Rock
+ Psychedlic' and tag the songs on Atom Heart Mother as 'Rock +
Prog-Rock/Art Rock'. That way all of my Pink Floyd albums show up
under the Rock genre in Slimserver, but they also show up under their
respective places in the other genres.

I'm actually liking this line of reasoning enough that I might do
this, myself. It'd be hell on my portable player, though, which
doesn't understand separators.

You also asked about MoodLogic and MusicMagic. These are programs
that will scan your music library and internally make decisions about
which kinds of music go together. So after it scans you can select a
song or artist or genre and have the program make you a custom
playlist of songs it has determined are a good stylistic match. I
haven't used MoodLogic much, but in toying with MusicMagic, I know
there's also a feature where you can select a bunch of songs manually
and label them all as a certain 'mood', and MusicMagic can use these
connections to figure out based on what data it has what other things
it thinks belongs in that mood. It's all pretty neat, but it's no
real solution for creating genre tags, if that's what you're after.

-Steve

dean
2005-04-11, 16:02
You'll need the IP address of the computer running SlimServer. If that
IP address is, for example, 192.168.1.2 then use this URL:

http://192.168.1.2:9000/

You may also be able to use the name of the computer in place of the IP
address, but that depends on your network setup. Once you get it
working, don't forget to make a bookmark!


On Apr 8, 2005, at 7:18 AM, Chuck Pelto wrote:

> Hi,
>
> What is the url to be put into my browser in order to access SLIMP
> which is running things on a different computer?
>
> Regards,
>
> Chuck
>
>