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depeche
2005-04-07, 07:43
Display:
A non standard spectrum layout is the idea then....OK. Normally you have
low ---> high freq.
or
Left (low ---> high) Right (low ---> high)

Digital:
RCA cable - nothing special, except that it is the SAME cable used
successfully with my SBG.
Optical - no idea, don't have a cable.
MAC addy - on the bottom of the SB2 :) (A few miles from here) (Why is
this important?)

Andrew


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:discuss-bounces (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com]On Behalf Of Sean Adams
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 7:34 AM
To: Slim Devices Discussion
Subject: Re: [slim] SBG clock screensaver and Digital out issues.


> The spectrum thingy looks like it is mirrored from the middle, as both
> ends seem to be the bass portion. I have not done the test tone, but
> probably will tomorrow.

That's exactly what it's supposed to look like - it's a stereo spectrum
analyzer with bass on the outside bars.

>>> 2. Digital output (Non-optical) WILL NOT lock with my reciever. All
>>> I get is
>>> static if/when it 'syncs'. I have had to resort to analogue. :(


- How long, and what kind of cable is it?
- Does optical work?
- What is your MAC address?

JJ
2005-04-07, 11:34
I never saw a resolution to this thread regarding a grounding problem on
the coax digital out.

Are these problems (and fix) one and the same?



----- Original Message -----
From: "Sean Adams" <sadams (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com>
To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 10:21 PM
Subject: Re: [slim] OK, this is totally, totally weird..


>>> Does your DAC have optical in?
>>>
>>
>> Nope, just S/PDIF. Waddya want for a $137 DAC?
>
> Crap - well this is a tricky issue to debug without poking at it with a
> scope.
>
> BTW S/PDIF is S/PDIF - could mean optical or coax. "TOSLink"
> specifically means optical, but if you just say S/PDIF it could mean
> either.
>
> Anyway I don't have an answer OTOH but I'll think on it...



----- Original Message -----
From: "Sean Adams" <sadams (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com>
To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [slim] SBG clock screensaver and Digital out issues.


> On Apr 7, 2005, at 7:43 AM, depeche wrote:
>
>> Display:
>> A non standard spectrum layout is the idea then....
>
> Well, no it wasn't just to be different - just an aesthetic decision.
> :)
>
>> Optical - no idea, don't have a cable.
>
> Testing optical tells us whether it's a signal integrity issue or not.
>
>> MAC addy - on the bottom of the SB2 :) (A few miles from here) (Why
>> is
>> this important?)
>
> We recently identified an electrical issue that would cause coax s/pdif
> not to sync with a few receivers - it has been fixed already in
> production, but some SB2s that shipped as recently as Monday will need
> the fix. If you have a MAC address of 00:04:20:05:A3:FA or lower, you
> can contact support (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com to get it fixed.

Richie
2005-04-07, 12:09
How serious exactly is this problem? Is it it restricted to a
particular manufacturer or is it widespread?

I'm in the UK and I have a SB2 that has a MAC address of
00:04:20:05:A1:33 so I assume it would be affected by this issue.

I'm using the coax digital out at the moment and it works with my
current equipment, however, I had been planning to upgrade at some
point this year. I would be a little disappointed if my SB2 then
didn't work properly.

Should I return it?

Richard

On Apr 7, 2005 5:41 PM, Daryle A. Tilroe <daryle (AT) micralyne (DOT) com> wrote:
> Sean Adams wrote:
>
> > Everything that has shipped or will ship to Canadian resellers,
> > including Kawartha, has the fix already.
>
> Cool! Thanks a lot for concise, fast, and fortunate response.
>
> --
> Daryle A. Tilroe
>

Christian Pernegger
2005-04-07, 12:15
>We recently identified an electrical issue that would cause coax
s/pdif not to sync with a
>few receivers - it has been fixed already in production, but some
SB2s that shipped as
>recently as Monday will need the fix. If you have a MAC address of
00:04:20:05:A3:FA or
>lower, you can contact support (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com to get it fixed.

I am not using an external DAC at the moment so I'd rather spare us
both the hassle of sending my unit back to fix it. Does this have to
be done now, or could I have it fixed whenever I decide to upgrade to
a DAC and find I am affected?

Regards
C.

seanadams
2005-04-07, 13:11
On Apr 7, 2005, at 12:15 PM, Christian Pernegger wrote:

>> We recently identified an electrical issue that would cause coax
> s/pdif not to sync with a
>> few receivers - it has been fixed already in production, but some
> SB2s that shipped as
>> recently as Monday will need the fix. If you have a MAC address of
> 00:04:20:05:A3:FA or
>> lower, you can contact support (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com to get it fixed.
>
> I am not using an external DAC at the moment so I'd rather spare us
> both the hassle of sending my unit back to fix it. Does this have to
> be done now, or could I have it fixed whenever I decide to upgrade to
> a DAC and find I am affected?
>

Whenever. Optical is totally unaffected by the way, so this is only an
issue IF you're using coax AND you encounter loss of sync. As far as we
know only about 1 in 100 receivers exhibit this.

Richard Elen
2005-04-07, 13:16
Can this be fixed in the field? You mentioned an "electrical" problem -
missing grounding link or component? Something simple one could fix
oneself without (eg international) returns, albeit voiding warranty, etc?

--Richard E

Sean Adams wrote:
> ...this is only an
> issue IF you're using coax AND you encounter loss of sync. As far as we
> know only about 1 in 100 receivers exhibit this.

seanadams
2005-04-07, 13:32
Not comfortable having this done in the field - specialty SMT component
need replacing and a tweak to the board.

On Apr 7, 2005, at 1:16 PM, Richard Elen wrote:

> Can this be fixed in the field? You mentioned an "electrical" problem
> - missing grounding link or component? Something simple one could fix
> oneself without (eg international) returns, albeit voiding warranty,
> etc?
>
> --Richard E
>
> Sean Adams wrote:
>> ...this is only an issue IF you're using coax AND you encounter loss
>> of sync. As far as we know only about 1 in 100 receivers exhibit
>> this.
>
>

Daryle A. Tilroe
2005-04-07, 17:27
Sean Adams wrote:

>
> Not comfortable having this done in the field - specialty SMT component
> need replacing and a tweak to the board.

Hey some of us have desoldered a PLCC EEPROM with flux and a heat
gun, put it in a programmer to fix a FUBAR'd flash, and then
reflowed it back on with the same heat gun. We could handle
it. ;-) Of course I realize the day after you post the instructions
some twit will start prying things off with a screwdriver or
burn up their PCB and then want a 'warranty' repair.

--
Daryle A. Tilroe

dean
2005-04-11, 15:56
On Apr 7, 2005, at 11:34 AM, JJ wrote:

> I never saw a resolution to this thread regarding a grounding problem
> on the coax digital out.
>
> Are these problems (and fix) one and the same?
Probably. As Sean said, if you have this problem and your player has a
MAC address of 00:04:20:05:A3:FA or lower (as marked on the sticker on
the bottom, you can contact support (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com to get it fixed.

-dean