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Dave Owen
2005-04-01, 17:25
>SlimServer 6 does not work on RedHat 7.x - as RedHat has a broken perl
there.

Ouch. Sorry to hear that, as the machine I have running 5.4.1 uses a
server solution based around 7.3. I guess I won't be buying a
Squeezebox2.

Dan Sully
2005-04-01, 17:30
* Dave Owen shaped the electrons to say...

>>SlimServer 6 does not work on RedHat 7.x - as RedHat has a broken perl there.
>
>Ouch. Sorry to hear that, as the machine I have running 5.4.1 uses a
>server solution based around 7.3. I guess I won't be buying a Squeezebox2.

That seems rather doom and gloom. It's not that we don't want SS6 to work on
RedHat, it's just that RedHat has a broken perl. I spent well over a day on a
customer's machine tracking this down. In the end, he upgraded to RedHat 8,
quite painlessly, and SS6 worked just fine. So why not look at that as an option?

I'd just like to point out that we run on at least 20 different platforms -
and provide the code and build scripts to get SlimServer running on those we
don't support out of the box. I dare you to point to one other commercial-esq
product that can claim that.

-D
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JJ
2005-04-01, 17:46
I asked recently about the compilation of code for the Windows platform
and never got a response.

Are the Windows exe's compiled directly from the perl source code that
runs on other OS's?

Given the issue with faulty perl implementations, can SlimServer be
compiled to an executable binary on Linux or any of the other platforms?
If that's possible, would a compiled server also possibly be a fix for
folks seeing dropouts or other performance issues that might be
attributable to running an interpreted application?


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Sully" <dan (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com>
To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 5:30 PM
Subject: [slim] Re: Is it time to recall 6? Anyone get it working
onSuse orRH 7.2?


> That seems rather doom and gloom. It's not that we don't want SS6 to
> work on
> RedHat, it's just that RedHat has a broken perl. I spent well over a day
> on a
> customer's machine tracking this down. In the end, he upgraded to RedHat
> 8,
> quite painlessly, and SS6 worked just fine. So why not look at that as
> an option?
>
> I'd just like to point out that we run on at least 20 different
> platforms -
> and provide the code and build scripts to get SlimServer running on
> those we
> don't support out of the box. I dare you to point to one other
> commercial-esq
> product that can claim that.

Dan Sully
2005-04-01, 18:06
* JJ shaped the electrons to say...

>I asked recently about the compilation of code for the Windows platform
>and never got a response.
>
>Are the Windows exe's compiled directly from the perl source code that
>runs on other OS's?

SlimServer is bundled into an executable with a built in perl interpreter -
which is different from it actually being compiled.

Once SlimServer is up and running though - it's pretty fast - since it's a
long running process, everything has already been handled at "compile time"
by the interpreter.

>Given the issue with faulty perl implementations, can SlimServer be
>compiled to an executable binary on Linux or any of the other platforms?
>If that's possible, would a compiled server also possibly be a fix for
>folks seeing dropouts or other performance issues that might be
>attributable to running an interpreted application?

Kind of - ActiveState offers such a program for Linux as well, but we've not
had time to investigate it. I believe there is some amount of additional
license fee for usage.

-D
--
Adobe Photoshop - When you want the truth. Real bad.

JJ
2005-04-01, 19:35
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Sully" <dan (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com>
To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 6:06 PM
Subject: [slim] Compiled Server? (was: Anyone get it working on...)


> SlimServer is bundled into an executable with a built in perl
> interpreter -
> which is different from it actually being compiled.

Interesting. I believe I've seen it mentioned here that some people are
running the straight perl version on Windows by using a Windows install of
perl. Is there any advantage to doing this - better performance, for
instance? I've putzed around in perl a little and run ActiveState's
ActivePerl 5.22 on a number of Windows servers. Is there a guide
somewhere to running like this on Windows - for instance, which download
to use and the minimum version of perl needed?

Dan Sully
2005-04-01, 19:39
* JJ shaped the electrons to say...

>Interesting. I believe I've seen it mentioned here that some people are
>running the straight perl version on Windows by using a Windows install of
>perl. Is there any advantage to doing this - better performance, for
>instance? I've putzed around in perl a little and run ActiveState's
>ActivePerl 5.22 on a number of Windows servers. Is there a guide
>somewhere to running like this on Windows - for instance, which download
>to use and the minimum version of perl needed?

I've heard the same reports - though theoretically there shouldn't be any difference.

You can download the latest version of ActiveState perl from their website.

-D
--
<dr.pox> does whistling in the dark make me go blind faster?

mherger
2005-04-02, 00:22
Dave

>> SlimServer 6 does not work on RedHat 7.x - as RedHat has a broken perl
> there.
>
> Ouch. Sorry to hear that, as the machine I have running 5.4.1 uses a
> server solution based around 7.3. I guess I won't be buying a
> Squeezebox2.

I've been running SlimServer 6.0 for quite some time now on my SME6 box.
Both with the orginal stock Perl 5.6.1 and a self compiled 5.8.6. The
stock Perl is running almost perfectly fine now (Dan spent quite some time
on it) - and I have a lot of international characters in both the tags and
file/directory names.

--

Michael

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