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Chris Glushko
2005-03-30, 14:37
> What happens when Apple Computer loses any court
> battle with Apple Records and is forced to either
> get out
> of the music business or give its music technology
> to
> Apple Records?
>
> I love Apple, but I hate their music distribution
> ideas
> and anything having to do with proprietary formats.
>
> Go FLAC, you'll never go back. Another good thing
> is that if you go with flac, the decode is happening
>
> on the sb2. With apple lossless, the decode is
> happening on the server.

But, what if you have a very large music collection
and use an iPod where you interchange tracks often?
This would mean that for every new track you want on
your ipod, you'll have to go to your flac library,
decompress the file, import it into iTunes, tag it in
iTunes, compress it to the format of choice and then
place the file on your iPod.

I have no problems with FLAC (and the fact that the
SB2 natively supports FLAC has me drooling), but the
ability to keep all my music in iTunes in a lossless
format keeps me using Apple Lossless (even if I have
sold my soul to the devil).

- Chris

ps - I know someone is going to bring up the fact that
there are alternatives to the iPod, like the iRiver.
However, I've found that the iRiver for all it can do
is nowhere near as good of a portable music player.
In addition, iTunes is a great program for cataloging
your music collection.

pss - Aren't you being a little over dramatic in your
scenario above? I highly doubt Apple Lossless is just
going to disappear one day in the blink of an eye with
nothing left on the planet to support it.

ron thigpen
2005-03-30, 15:07
Chris Glushko wrote:

> But, what if you have a very large music collection
> and use an iPod where you interchange tracks often?
> This would mean that for every new track you want on
> your ipod, you'll have to go to your flac library,
> decompress the file, import it into iTunes, tag it in
> iTunes, compress it to the format of choice and then
> place the file on your iPod.

Not really. There are easier ways if you are willing to jump outside of
iTunes. A bit of script can drive command-line tools to convert FLAC to
formats that the iPod can play. Tags need not be lost in conversion.
And if you have the storage space, keep both FLAC and lossy versions.
This is perhaps sub-optimal, but is not as bad as the process you've
described.

Also, isn't it a bit wasteful to use Apple Lossless encoding for iPod
playback? Doesn't it result in decreased music storage ability, longer
transfer times onto the iPod and higher rates of battery consumption?
Can you hear the difference when playing back through the chip-based
amplifier in the iPod, into portable headphones, in often noisy
listening environments?

Unfortunately, iPod and SB2 have different capabilities when it comes to
lossless. iPod doesn't do FLAC at all, and SB2 doesn't do Apple
Lossless natively. And any lossless format makes more sense for high
fidelity playback and archival purposes than it does for use in portables.

I don't mean to criticize your choices, but did want to illustrate that
there are trade-offs with either method that are independent of the
open-source/proprietary arguments.

I'm facing the same issue myself and will probably go the double storage
route until a portable player comes along the changes the equation.

--rt

Robin Bowes
2005-03-30, 15:50
Chris Glushko wrote:
> But, what if you have a very large music collection
> and use an iPod where you interchange tracks often?
> This would mean that for every new track you want on
> your ipod, you'll have to go to your flac library,
> decompress the file, import it into iTunes, tag it in
> iTunes, compress it to the format of choice and then
> place the file on your iPod.

....or write a script to convert flac to mp3 automatically:

http://robinbowes.com/filemgmt/visit.php?lid=5

R.
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