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Phillip Kerman
2005-03-29, 10:37
> > Browse Music Folder is one of the more processor intensive
> operations
> > that
> > SlimServer performs, especially if you have a large number
> of top level
> > directories. Coupled with the small buffer of SB1, drop
> outs can happen.
> >
> If you set the Server Settings > Behavior > Sort By File Name
> preference
> to "Sort by song information", you may get better behavior
> with Browse
> Music Folder. Specifically, it will take longer for the folder to
> display in the web interface, but there's a better chance
> that you will
> avoid dropouts.
>
> A quick explanation - with the preference set to "Sort by
> filename" we
> attempt to generate the music folder list immediately,
> without accessing
> the database. This results in a snappier web interface, but may take
> long enough for large directories to cause an audio dropout
> with FLAC or
> PCM audio. The "Sort by song information" setting forces us to access
> the database and we spread out the generation of the music
> folder list
> over a longer period of time - resulting in a slower response
> to the web
> interface request, but potentially better streaming behavior. This
> behavior is a function of our single threaded process - we're
> looking at
> ways in the future to separate handling of web interface requests and
> streaming into multiple threads or processes.
>
> Out of curiousity, how many entries are there in your top-level
> directory? Are they all subdirectories or are there tracks as well?

I have 122 folders and one raw FLAC file in this particular case. Nearly
every folder has sub-folders It didn't seem to ever cause a problem with
5.4.1. I'll try to arrange things so that I can use browse by artist or
something--but that isn't my normal mode of operation.

I think 5.4.1 must have cached the folder list or something because I don't
recall it ever causing a drop out like this---which now does it every time
almost.

Thanks,
Phillip

vidurapparao
2005-03-29, 12:24
Phillip Kerman wrote:

>>>Browse Music Folder is one of the more processor intensive
>>>
>>>
>>operations
>>
>>
>>>that
>>>SlimServer performs, especially if you have a large number
>>>
>>>
>>of top level
>>
>>
>>>directories. Coupled with the small buffer of SB1, drop
>>>
>>>
>>outs can happen.
>>
>>
>>If you set the Server Settings > Behavior > Sort By File Name
>>preference
>>to "Sort by song information", you may get better behavior
>>with Browse
>>Music Folder. Specifically, it will take longer for the folder to
>>display in the web interface, but there's a better chance
>>that you will
>>avoid dropouts.
>>
>>A quick explanation - with the preference set to "Sort by
>>filename" we
>>attempt to generate the music folder list immediately,
>>without accessing
>>the database. This results in a snappier web interface, but may take
>>long enough for large directories to cause an audio dropout
>>with FLAC or
>>PCM audio. The "Sort by song information" setting forces us to access
>>the database and we spread out the generation of the music
>>folder list
>>over a longer period of time - resulting in a slower response
>>to the web
>>interface request, but potentially better streaming behavior. This
>>behavior is a function of our single threaded process - we're
>>looking at
>>ways in the future to separate handling of web interface requests and
>>streaming into multiple threads or processes.
>>
>>Out of curiousity, how many entries are there in your top-level
>>directory? Are they all subdirectories or are there tracks as well?
>>
>>
>
>I have 122 folders and one raw FLAC file in this particular case. Nearly
>every folder has sub-folders It didn't seem to ever cause a problem with
>5.4.1. I'll try to arrange things so that I can use browse by artist or
>something--but that isn't my normal mode of operation.
>
>I think 5.4.1 must have cached the folder list or something because I don't
>recall it ever causing a drop out like this---which now does it every time
>almost.
>
>
Phillip,

Could you confirm whether changing the "Sort By File Name" setting
changes the dropout behavior?

Thanks,
--Vidur

Mike Hartley
2005-03-29, 13:09
I'm in the process of building my first linux box. I'm using Xandros 3.0.1
Open Circulation and want to rip my CD collection to FLAC format. I came
accross an application called XMCD, a motif based player/ripper. Has anyone
on the list had any experience using it to rip lossless for the SB? If not,
or you don't like, what do you recommend?

Thanks,

Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vidur Apparao" <vidur (AT) slimdevices (DOT) com>
To: "Slim Devices Discussion" <discuss (AT) lists (DOT) slimdevices.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 2:24 PM
Subject: [slim] Re: Announce: SlimServer 6.0


> Phillip Kerman wrote:
>
> >>>Browse Music Folder is one of the more processor intensive
> >>>
> >>>
> >>operations
> >>
> >>
> >>>that
> >>>SlimServer performs, especially if you have a large number
> >>>
> >>>
> >>of top level
> >>
> >>
> >>>directories. Coupled with the small buffer of SB1, drop
> >>>
> >>>
> >>outs can happen.
> >>
> >>
> >>If you set the Server Settings > Behavior > Sort By File Name
> >>preference
> >>to "Sort by song information", you may get better behavior
> >>with Browse
> >>Music Folder. Specifically, it will take longer for the folder to
> >>display in the web interface, but there's a better chance
> >>that you will
> >>avoid dropouts.
> >>
> >>A quick explanation - with the preference set to "Sort by
> >>filename" we
> >>attempt to generate the music folder list immediately,
> >>without accessing
> >>the database. This results in a snappier web interface, but may take
> >>long enough for large directories to cause an audio dropout
> >>with FLAC or
> >>PCM audio. The "Sort by song information" setting forces us to access
> >>the database and we spread out the generation of the music
> >>folder list
> >>over a longer period of time - resulting in a slower response
> >>to the web
> >>interface request, but potentially better streaming behavior. This
> >>behavior is a function of our single threaded process - we're
> >>looking at
> >>ways in the future to separate handling of web interface requests and
> >>streaming into multiple threads or processes.
> >>
> >>Out of curiousity, how many entries are there in your top-level
> >>directory? Are they all subdirectories or are there tracks as well?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >I have 122 folders and one raw FLAC file in this particular case. Nearly
> >every folder has sub-folders It didn't seem to ever cause a problem with
> >5.4.1. I'll try to arrange things so that I can use browse by artist or
> >something--but that isn't my normal mode of operation.
> >
> >I think 5.4.1 must have cached the folder list or something because I
don't
> >recall it ever causing a drop out like this---which now does it every
time
> >almost.
> >
> >
> Phillip,
>
> Could you confirm whether changing the "Sort By File Name" setting
> changes the dropout behavior?
>
> Thanks,
> --Vidur
>